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Spaiku
Profile Joined July 2012
Spain1114 Posts
July 05 2013 16:25 GMT
#6541
On July 06 2013 01:14 AsnSensation wrote:
EU Supports CURSED

krepo is next

If they kick Krepo before Snoopeh..

Anyway they're both too popular to leave EG
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
July 05 2013 16:30 GMT
#6542
On July 06 2013 01:07 Fusilero wrote:
http://www.lemondogs.se/news/lemondogs/74/lemondogs-roster-changes
Wewillfailer out, mithy in. Poor TomatoCannon is now the only heimerdinger colossi player not in LCS now .

Not sure how his performance was, but I know a lot of people in the qualifier LR thread were upset he was in the LCS due to his toxic history. Seems like it caught up to him though.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
July 05 2013 16:34 GMT
#6543
On July 05 2013 23:43 justiceknight wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2013 23:09 Dan HH wrote:
So.. uh.. the new TPA looks very promising

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]



GPL is nothing, wait till their turn on the Taiwan worlds qualifier and we can safely judge the new roster


welp, time to change my sig.
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Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
July 05 2013 16:37 GMT
#6544
On July 06 2013 01:07 Alaric wrote:
Kha'Zix damage and trading is still super high, despite having 2 dblades to his Tear I almost lost trades as Pantheon... and he was maxing (and evolving) W first, not Q. >.>
I'd probably have taken a beating (until I bought BFS while he sat on vamp+ruby+long sword) if he maxed Q, despite outfarming him and being 2 kills up on him. As Pantheon.

I was less surprised by the damage than to see a Gold I player keep the Tear -> max and evolve W build though, it didn't do much for him.

This shouldn't happen, you can keep him from proccing his passive like ever and your Q cooldown is such that it allows you to extend the trade enough to be favorable for you. He cannot Q you safely without E and you can disengage very easily and make him eat more damage anyway.

I don't see how you could possibly lose trades esp if he's maxing W first
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
July 05 2013 16:45 GMT
#6545
On July 06 2013 01:34 ticklishmusic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2013 23:43 justiceknight wrote:
On July 05 2013 23:09 Dan HH wrote:
So.. uh.. the new TPA looks very promising

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]



GPL is nothing, wait till their turn on the Taiwan worlds qualifier and we can safely judge the new roster


welp, time to change my sig.

To be fair they hardly qualify as TPA anymore.
I guess it's a bad example but if the 1980-90s Chicago Bulls all of a sudden replaced their entire team except for Scottie Pippen they would be the Chicago Bulls only in name. It would make sense to support them if you were local I suppose but otherwise I'm not sure there'd be a point.
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LaM
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States1321 Posts
July 05 2013 16:47 GMT
#6546
On July 06 2013 01:03 Nos- wrote:
I honestly hope Toyz doesn't retire from the scene, cause that guy is a fucking monster and to have him go so early would be tragic


Toyz was a solid player but always really over rated just because they won World Champs. He was never the best mid in the world. It would be sad to see him go I guess, but I wouldn't call it tragic lol. Guy had a more successful career than could ever have been expected and doesn't seem to want to play and deal with the BS anymore. Seems like not too big of a tragedy.
Anything is Possible
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
July 05 2013 16:56 GMT
#6547
You're doing quite a disservice to Toyz. He's proven his indivdual skill on an international stage several times.

The problem is that TPA's playstyle as a whole could not be stable in the long run, given how the game evolved going into season 3.
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onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-05 17:10:47
July 05 2013 16:58 GMT
#6548
On July 06 2013 01:45 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2013 01:34 ticklishmusic wrote:
On July 05 2013 23:43 justiceknight wrote:
On July 05 2013 23:09 Dan HH wrote:
So.. uh.. the new TPA looks very promising

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]



GPL is nothing, wait till their turn on the Taiwan worlds qualifier and we can safely judge the new roster


welp, time to change my sig.

To be fair they hardly qualify as TPA anymore.
I guess it's a bad example but if the 1980-90s Chicago Bulls all of a sudden replaced their entire team except for Scottie Pippen they would be the Chicago Bulls only in name. It would make sense to support them if you were local I suppose but otherwise I'm not sure there'd be a point.

This is one of the bigger "problems" with team eSports. When it comes to traditional sports there are more regional affiliations and people follow teams at an organizational level. With team eSports there is way more allegiance to the specific players. That's why so many old Copenhagen Wolves fans were upset with NiP's new roster since it wasn't even the same team anymore. I still support NiP, but that's mostly because I support Bjergsen. Or to bring it back to traditional sports it's like how people in Cleveland were upset when LeBron James left instead of just following his talents to South Beach. I guess my point is that due to the lack of specific regions for teams it's hard to be a fan of a team if there are significant roster changes. Just a weird quirk of eSports.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
Jerubaal
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States7684 Posts
July 05 2013 17:01 GMT
#6549
On July 05 2013 22:18 sob3k wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2013 22:04 Numy wrote:
It's more about if that's really holding them back or just an excuse they formed.

Anyway change of topic. I want to grab a top laner that is pretty safe vs anyone so can pick it early on. My shen seems a bit iffy and malphite is often banned. What do you guys suggest? I normally play Irelia/Shen/Malph/Zed top and thinking maybe someone like yorick.


Yorick is an awful champ and being reworked right now, don't play him plz

Isn't Renekton a pretty solid top in most situations?

also does anyone else see this whenever you look at the picture for his ult:

[image loading]

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[image loading]


Crocodile bias. Ignore plox.
I'm not stupid, a marauder just shot my brain.
KissBlade
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States5718 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-05 17:15:52
July 05 2013 17:15 GMT
#6550
Mandu's Nami is RIDICULOUS. Holy f. Watching the rebroadcast this is bonkers.

Renekton going Tiamats Sunfire for the AoE.
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-05 17:24:26
July 05 2013 17:21 GMT
#6551
On July 06 2013 02:15 KissBlade wrote:
Mandu's Nami is RIDICULOUS. Holy f. Watching the rebroadcast this is bonkers.

Renekton going Tiamats Sunfire for the AoE.

Wow, the rebroadcast is like 2 minutes ahead of where I'm watching the VoDs lol

Interesting to see Mandu maxed E both times.

Edit:But also we should post in the OGN thread
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
July 05 2013 17:24 GMT
#6552
On July 06 2013 01:37 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2013 01:07 Alaric wrote:
Kha'Zix damage and trading is still super high, despite having 2 dblades to his Tear I almost lost trades as Pantheon... and he was maxing (and evolving) W first, not Q. >.>
I'd probably have taken a beating (until I bought BFS while he sat on vamp+ruby+long sword) if he maxed Q, despite outfarming him and being 2 kills up on him. As Pantheon.

I was less surprised by the damage than to see a Gold I player keep the Tear -> max and evolve W build though, it didn't do much for him.

This shouldn't happen, you can keep him from proccing his passive like ever and your Q cooldown is such that it allows you to extend the trade enough to be favorable for you. He cannot Q you safely without E and you can disengage very easily and make him eat more damage anyway.

I don't see how you could possibly lose trades esp if he's maxing W first

I said I almost lost them. I'm not talking about early trades (since his spells are level 1 anyway, and there was a bunch of jungle action that game which was the reason I ended up ahead).
Kha's Q damage is a bit stronger than Panth's at low level due to cd and higher base+ratio at level 1, and his ult gives him around 150 additional magic damage at level 6 (with passive procs). He would try to run from the wave to bait me in isolation range using the stealth, and I'd take the baits because I was winning the trades anyway and looking to kill him — it's just that despite the items advantage and managing my passive I'd take more damage than I'd have expected.

(Panth can't really disengage from Kha'Zix either because of his W slow and E while you only have W to stun him and walk away. It generally isn't a problem because higher base MS and Q range lets you kite a bit if you've got some initial room, and Panth having stronger harass means that you should be the one to decide when a trade occurs anyway.)
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Zhiroo
Profile Joined February 2011
Kosovo2724 Posts
July 05 2013 17:56 GMT
#6553
Damn just got wrecked by a Sivir/Morgana bot lane.
LoL EuW: Zhiroo - By starting this squabble you've proven nothing but how vast your stupidity is.
Spaiku
Profile Joined July 2012
Spain1114 Posts
July 05 2013 18:03 GMT
#6554
On July 06 2013 02:56 Zhiroo wrote:
Damn just got wrecked by a Sivir/Morgana bot lane.

Sounds strong, shields for days
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-05 18:16:19
July 05 2013 18:10 GMT
#6555
Yeah, considering Bebe is the only member of the original team left I have no reason to really cheer for these guys anymore. Honestly, he's a very solid AD (probably about good as most Chinese ADC I think) but probably made the least plays and is/was the least important person. I like him ,but I really cheered for TPA because of Toyz and Stanley. I liked Lillballz and Mistake a lot too, but Bebe really got left behind a bit for me.

Saying that Toyz isn't one of the best mids in the world is pretty ridiculous, but I guess that's a product of GPL and the SEA scene generally being undercovered. The Allstar thing was definitely him outthinking Misaya, but he destroyed Rapidstar in lane in both sides of the Karthus/Anivia matchup in S2 finals, which was really something.

EDIT: TPA did very well the first part of S3, but there's been two many changed for both TPA and League for things to work out. It's a real shame, but at least I can hold my head up and say that my team won S2 championships and was one of the best in the world from S2 to a few months into S3.
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NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
July 05 2013 18:17 GMT
#6556
RIP TPA.
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Sponkz
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark4564 Posts
July 05 2013 18:34 GMT
#6557
Having Mistake step down to form TPS was the death of TPA.
hi
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
July 05 2013 18:34 GMT
#6558
You could say it was their first mistake
Zhiroo
Profile Joined February 2011
Kosovo2724 Posts
July 05 2013 18:37 GMT
#6559
On July 06 2013 03:03 Spaiku wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2013 02:56 Zhiroo wrote:
Damn just got wrecked by a Sivir/Morgana bot lane.

Sounds strong, shields for days


Yeah it is strong but I played the lane horribly as well. Was Nami/Tristana we should've just farmed but we kept trying to fight them.
LoL EuW: Zhiroo - By starting this squabble you've proven nothing but how vast your stupidity is.
Dan HH
Profile Joined July 2012
Romania9111 Posts
July 05 2013 19:09 GMT
#6560
On July 06 2013 03:10 ticklishmusic wrote:
Saying that Toyz isn't one of the best mids in the world is pretty ridiculous, but I guess that's a product of GPL and the SEA scene generally being undercovered. The Allstar thing was definitely him outthinking Misaya, but he destroyed Rapidstar in lane in both sides of the Karthus/Anivia matchup in S2 finals, which was really something.

It was indeed something, but using the present tense for it is just like saying Shushei is one of the best mids in the world
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