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nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
July 05 2013 13:12 GMT
#6521
We can't really know what amount of skipping is involved.He could've been away from the team house for a week with his girlfriend or something when the team is clearly having some issues in lcs.You can be certain he wasn't there too much because otherwise they really wouldn't kick best support eu and replace bot lane with yellowstar and a random solo q hero who might not be able to handle the pressure of lcs.
sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
July 05 2013 13:18 GMT
#6522
On July 05 2013 22:04 Numy wrote:
It's more about if that's really holding them back or just an excuse they formed.

Anyway change of topic. I want to grab a top laner that is pretty safe vs anyone so can pick it early on. My shen seems a bit iffy and malphite is often banned. What do you guys suggest? I normally play Irelia/Shen/Malph/Zed top and thinking maybe someone like yorick.


Yorick is an awful champ and being reworked right now, don't play him plz

Isn't Renekton a pretty solid top in most situations?

also does anyone else see this whenever you look at the picture for his ult:

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In Hungry Hungry Hippos there are no such constraints—one can constantly attempt to collect marbles with one’s hippo, limited only by one’s hippo-levering capabilities.
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
July 05 2013 13:25 GMT
#6523
@sob3k and scip

I completely agree with you guys, if you lack commitment you better off benched.

BUT

We also have to consider why he exactl he was benched, so imma ask you ( especially scip since you're challenger an play with the pros all the time)
Do you honestly think grinding 2 hours of soloq in top of their 8 hour practice schedule will help them significantly to obtain that "edge" sob3k was talking about earlier?

Sure cyanide, peke, soaz have motivation cause they get 10-20k viewers $$$. But instead of trolling a few hours in soloq learning nothing valuable for his lcs games and even hating it, he is probably better of having a nice date with his gf. With a
balanced life he's probably going less mentally streased into the games than the rest.

Now if he hates to sit down for extra team meetings/ strategy craft or replay analysis that would be a whole differet story of course but being benched for not playing soloQ l0l.

I types this on the phone so i didnt bother rechecking all their statements so maybe i got some facts wrong but the way i see it now is that n-rated was the scapegoat for fnatics current slump although he performed ok, which also conveniently opens the way for rekkles zo smoothl transition into the team.
Yellowstar just happened to have more friends on the team.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
July 05 2013 13:44 GMT
#6524
Jayce is the safest toplaner and he's also incredibly OP. He loses in trades vs many champions but he has the option to never trade and never fight straight-up. He dictates how every lane goes.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-05 13:49:12
July 05 2013 13:45 GMT
#6525
If you were the best player in the world and only had to play 1 game a day you wouldn't get kicked

he got picked because of underperforming and not willing to train harder to make up for it
nobody would kick a teammember because they want to have a gf
this is not a job this is sports
the highest performance wins
if cyanide wanted to only play X hours a day and wasnt up to par on skill fnatic can just hire scip who probably will play like all day anyway

also for all your people hating on soloq I have yet to see a dominant player who didn't manage to dominate in solo q

you can usually track performance of teams based on recent solo q performance to reasonble accuracy as well

like elementz being stuck at 1800 and shit
when clg were dominant hotshot was top of solo q
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
July 05 2013 13:52 GMT
#6526
On July 05 2013 22:44 Shikyo wrote:
Jayce is the safest toplaner and he's also incredibly OP. He loses in trades vs many champions but he has the option to never trade and never fight straight-up. He dictates how every lane goes.


Feels like cheating though. Guy should never have been made
Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
July 05 2013 13:53 GMT
#6527
I can't comment on how much does having a nice date with your gf affect your performance (I've never NOT had a date with my awesome hot gf, so no comparison points) but I find practicing in soloQ pretty good, if only to learn new champions and for your mechanics and fundamental decision making.
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
Dan HH
Profile Joined July 2012
Romania9129 Posts
July 05 2013 14:09 GMT
#6528
So.. uh.. the new TPA looks very promising

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AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
July 05 2013 14:12 GMT
#6529
lOl to be fair, SGS is a pretty good team and it's a whole roster change and dinter's gotta learn AD and Bebe mid or top (?)

funny thing is they always post pictures with them happily smiling in my facebook feed so I always assumed they won cause I can't read mandarin :D
Eppa!
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden4641 Posts
July 05 2013 14:13 GMT
#6530
When has it anytime been successful to put an ADC player to support?
"Can't wait till Monday" Cixah+Waveofshadow. "Needs to be monday. Weekend please go by quickly." Gahlo
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
July 05 2013 14:18 GMT
#6531
On July 05 2013 23:13 Eppa! wrote:
When has it anytime been successful to put an ADC player to support?

Does Chauster count?
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
justiceknight
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Singapore5741 Posts
July 05 2013 14:43 GMT
#6532
On July 05 2013 23:09 Dan HH wrote:
So.. uh.. the new TPA looks very promising

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GPL is nothing, wait till their turn on the Taiwan worlds qualifier and we can safely judge the new roster
xennitee
Profile Joined October 2012
Taiwan10 Posts
July 05 2013 15:04 GMT
#6533
On July 05 2013 23:12 AsnSensation wrote:
lOl to be fair, SGS is a pretty good team and it's a whole roster change and dinter's gotta learn AD and Bebe mid or top (?)

funny thing is they always post pictures with them happily smiling in my facebook feed so I always assumed they won cause I can't read mandarin :D

It's Bebe top, Achie mid, Sarsky jungle, Jay support and Dinter AD. And Dinter played AD for his ex-team before he joined TPA.

For those of you might want to know, it seems Toyz only retires from TPA, not retires from the scene. (People think Toyz is only taking a break based on what he and Garena TW said.)
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-05 15:33:55
July 05 2013 15:33 GMT
#6534
On July 05 2013 23:09 Dan HH wrote:
So.. uh.. the new TPA looks very promising

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[image loading]

Let's be real, TPS is the only hope of carrying the "legacy" of TPA. In MiSTakE we trust.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
Capped
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom7236 Posts
July 05 2013 15:36 GMT
#6535
Esports is a highly cutthroat business with hundreds if not thousands of people lining up to take their job at any opportunity.

Its like how the economy took a hit a few years back and jobs we're really fucking hard to come by. Then add to the fact that its an extremely difficult job to land in the first place and you're one of hundreds of perfectly qualified applicants, then put that situation on a metric shit-ton of crack, speed and extacy and you have being a pro-gamer.

You have to distinguish yourself somehow and be 100% committed, if you're not, there are plenty of other people who would relish the opportunity and put in double the amount of work.
Useless wet fish.
kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
July 05 2013 16:01 GMT
#6536
On June 11 2013 11:37 cpomz wrote:
Also people have to recognize that Khazix can no longer count on free wave clear that will one shot the back-line because he loses the passive

in b4 people start building hydra instead of muramana and break khazix again
Nos-
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada12016 Posts
July 05 2013 16:03 GMT
#6537
I honestly hope Toyz doesn't retire from the scene, cause that guy is a fucking monster and to have him go so early would be tragic
Bronze player stuck in platinum
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-05 16:08:27
July 05 2013 16:07 GMT
#6538
Kha'Zix damage and trading is still super high, despite having 2 dblades to his Tear I almost lost trades as Pantheon... and he was maxing (and evolving) W first, not Q. >.>
I'd probably have taken a beating (until I bought BFS while he sat on vamp+ruby+long sword) if he maxed Q, despite outfarming him and being 2 kills up on him. As Pantheon.

I was less surprised by the damage than to see a Gold I player keep the Tear -> max and evolve W build though, it didn't do much for him.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
July 05 2013 16:07 GMT
#6539
http://www.lemondogs.se/news/lemondogs/74/lemondogs-roster-changes
Wewillfailer out, mithy in. Poor TomatoCannon is now the only heimerdinger colossi player not in LCS now .
Glorious SEA doto
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
July 05 2013 16:14 GMT
#6540
EU Supports CURSED

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