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NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
June 25 2013 23:23 GMT
#4101
On June 26 2013 08:18 onlywonderboy wrote:
So, proof NiP is Bjergsen's team first and foremost.

Don't think there was any doubt there.
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Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
June 25 2013 23:27 GMT
#4102
GOGO Freeze, Czech represent!
About fking time Czech Republic got a player in LCS. Freeze is really fking good too. Just played with him national ESL thing against Romania, lol.
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
OdinOfPergo
Profile Joined December 2011
United States840 Posts
June 25 2013 23:27 GMT
#4103
NA servers crash?
Ik weet niet wie ik denk dat ik ben. Ik weet niet wie ik zogenaamd in gesprek met. je niet hier, niemand is. Ik ben hier niet, niets is.
swim224
Profile Joined May 2010
Botswana368 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-25 23:28:40
June 25 2013 23:28 GMT
#4104
On June 26 2013 08:27 OdinOfPergo wrote:
NA servers crash?

They're down for me too.
....unless Taeja suddenly parachutes into the studio with explosions behind him and lands on a skateboard which he jumps over the booth before jumping in. If that happened it would be so sweet it would be physically impossible for them to lose. - Haydin
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-25 23:30:54
June 25 2013 23:28 GMT
#4105
On June 26 2013 08:20 Fusilero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2013 08:17 nafta wrote:
On June 26 2013 08:15 Fusilero wrote:
On June 26 2013 08:11 Zdrastochye wrote:
Nobody saw my last post, right?

What do you think of Botrk IE starts on adcs? Obviously they lack a bit of synergy with themselves, but they're probably the two strongest adc items as far as offensive power goes. I don't really like getting them back to back because they don't really help each other, but isn't it technically the strongest start for an adc who's doing well and can get them rather fast? I guess I don't really know why anyone rushes them back to back, but I do agree they're both strong items. I think IE + PD into botrk makes more sense to me, but what do I know?

I normally go botrk > pd > ie on caitlyn, varus and ashe. I don't like skipping the pd/shiv early because I don't want to miss out on the movement speed during the mid game which is just too helpful with kiting for me to overlook even though it's less damage.


How do you kill anything not named minions lol?That build is 0 dmg for first 40minutes 0.o.


I KILL MORE MINIONS MY DEAR. Seriously though when I think about it you're probably right it's just how I've always played since I never really learnt what order to get items I've just got like this intrinsic mentality of lifesteal item (In this case botrk) > Zeal item > IE > LW > Defensive item it's a habit build into me which I should probably teach myself to break.


You don't need bork on either 3 of these until maybe later in the game.For cait go ie>zeal>lw(sneak a vamp if necessary)/for varus bt>zeal>lw with q max(sometimes lw before zeal is good too)/for ashe I'd go standart ie/shyv/lw(again sneak vamp if necessary).2 dorans+lifesteal runes is enough if behind otherwise don't get a 2-nd one.ONLY get vamp first if in dire need but generally bf first is best on everyone.
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-25 23:32:39
June 25 2013 23:30 GMT
#4106
On June 26 2013 08:23 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2013 08:18 onlywonderboy wrote:
So, proof NiP is Bjergsen's team first and foremost.

Don't think there was any doubt there.

He is the best player. But how does that mean he owns the team or can decide who goes and who stays?

I am wondering anyway, how is it determined who owns a team from Riots perspective?

Here 2 members invited 3 new players and are officially still NiP. Could the other 3 players invite 2 new players themselves and form a counter-NiP? Which would be the real one then with the LCS license?
Off-season = best season
FaCE_1
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Canada6184 Posts
June 25 2013 23:31 GMT
#4107
On June 26 2013 08:28 swim224 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2013 08:27 OdinOfPergo wrote:
NA servers crash?

They're down for me too.

web site is also down
n_n
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
June 25 2013 23:35 GMT
#4108
On June 26 2013 08:30 Redox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2013 08:23 NeoIllusions wrote:
On June 26 2013 08:18 onlywonderboy wrote:
So, proof NiP is Bjergsen's team first and foremost.

Don't think there was any doubt there.

He is the best player. But how does that mean he owns the team or can decide who goes and who stays?

I am wondering anyway, how is it determined who owns a team from Riots perspective?

Here 2 members invited 3 new players and are officially still NiP. Could the other 3 players invite 2 new players themselves and form a counter-NiP? Which would be the real one then with the LCS license?

Well none of them are outright removed, merely benched so strictly speaking all 5 are still NiP and therefore hold the seed. It's an interesting thing though I don't think neegodbro/thetess/svenskeren can really be allowed to make a claim to LCS with a new team at this point it'd just be way too much hassle and let's be brutally honest, the team is at the end of the day all about bjergsen.
Glorious SEA doto
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
June 25 2013 23:35 GMT
#4109
For me, the reason for the BOTRK>IE build is my lack of Life Steal Quints. I don't think I would have such a heavy need for the early vamp otherwise, and just sitting on a vamp until your complete IE, PD feels idiotic.
Freeeeeeedom
JeosAdn
Profile Joined September 2011
Costa Rica432 Posts
June 25 2013 23:36 GMT
#4110
bwahahaha LAN is perfectly fine! We will be the new OP servers
Kinie
Profile Joined December 2011
United States3106 Posts
June 25 2013 23:36 GMT
#4111
Yeah, can't connect to game either, or the website. So I'm guessing something happened to LoL.
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-25 23:38:57
June 25 2013 23:38 GMT
#4112
http://www.speedtest.net/result/2797076543.png

I don't even know what to say. Like wtf.

edit: oh, so me not being able to connect to LoL apparently isn't just my shitty as fuck internet? Still can't even watch youtube vids let alone streams, gg.
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
June 25 2013 23:40 GMT
#4113
On June 26 2013 06:24 Capped wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2013 06:23 Spaiku wrote:
What do you guys think about Tryndamere?

Op, hidden op, must ban, trash?


He hasnt been OP since that AP tryn phase and then he got nerfed. :<

He's a solid soloQ pick though

he became op because of items, u build botrk + shyv and u can 1v1 pretty much anyone
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-25 23:42:08
June 25 2013 23:41 GMT
#4114
On June 26 2013 08:35 Fusilero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2013 08:30 Redox wrote:
On June 26 2013 08:23 NeoIllusions wrote:
On June 26 2013 08:18 onlywonderboy wrote:
So, proof NiP is Bjergsen's team first and foremost.

Don't think there was any doubt there.

He is the best player. But how does that mean he owns the team or can decide who goes and who stays?

I am wondering anyway, how is it determined who owns a team from Riots perspective?

Here 2 members invited 3 new players and are officially still NiP. Could the other 3 players invite 2 new players themselves and form a counter-NiP? Which would be the real one then with the LCS license?

Well none of them are outright removed, merely benched so strictly speaking all 5 are still NiP and therefore hold the seed. It's an interesting thing though I don't think neegodbro/thetess/svenskeren can really be allowed to make a claim to LCS with a new team at this point it'd just be way too much hassle and let's be brutally honest, the team is at the end of the day all about bjergsen.

Yeah I dont think they would do that. Also the official announcement was not quite correct. Svenskeren was not benched, he stepped down by his own decision, because NeeGodBro got benched and he only wanted play with him.

Anyway, my question still stands. Just theoretical, if a LCS team splits up, which part of the team can claim to be the real team then and be in LCS with new members they invite?
Off-season = best season
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20255 Posts
June 25 2013 23:43 GMT
#4115
Bah just hoped on to play and BAM servers won't log on. At least it isn't on my end since other people are having difficulties as well.
Never Knows Best.
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
June 25 2013 23:47 GMT
#4116
On June 26 2013 08:41 Redox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2013 08:35 Fusilero wrote:
On June 26 2013 08:30 Redox wrote:
On June 26 2013 08:23 NeoIllusions wrote:
On June 26 2013 08:18 onlywonderboy wrote:
So, proof NiP is Bjergsen's team first and foremost.

Don't think there was any doubt there.

He is the best player. But how does that mean he owns the team or can decide who goes and who stays?

I am wondering anyway, how is it determined who owns a team from Riots perspective?

Here 2 members invited 3 new players and are officially still NiP. Could the other 3 players invite 2 new players themselves and form a counter-NiP? Which would be the real one then with the LCS license?

Well none of them are outright removed, merely benched so strictly speaking all 5 are still NiP and therefore hold the seed. It's an interesting thing though I don't think neegodbro/thetess/svenskeren can really be allowed to make a claim to LCS with a new team at this point it'd just be way too much hassle and let's be brutally honest, the team is at the end of the day all about bjergsen.

Yeah I dont think they would do that. Also the official announcement was not quite correct. Svenskeren was not benched, he stepped down by his own decision, because NeeGodBro got benched and he only wanted play with him.

Anyway, my question still stands. Just theoretical, if a LCS team splits up, which part of the team can claim to be the real team then and be in LCS with new members they invite?

Officially it'd probably be the majority (Like see how SKT T1 released reapered's team but everyone but beezlehan left with him so they get SKT's OGN seed) but I get this feeling in reality the star of the team would probably get it so say EG falls apart and splits between froggen/wickd and snoopeh/yellowpete/krepo I get a feeling that it'd be froggen/wickd's side that would get it since froggen is the star of EG.
Glorious SEA doto
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
June 25 2013 23:49 GMT
#4117
On June 26 2013 07:40 Sponkz wrote:
Gotta love ranked.

Lose 2, win 1. Gain 2 LP

QQ thread is tha... oh wait.
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-25 23:52:44
June 25 2013 23:51 GMT
#4118
On June 26 2013 08:47 Fusilero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2013 08:41 Redox wrote:
On June 26 2013 08:35 Fusilero wrote:
On June 26 2013 08:30 Redox wrote:
On June 26 2013 08:23 NeoIllusions wrote:
On June 26 2013 08:18 onlywonderboy wrote:
So, proof NiP is Bjergsen's team first and foremost.

Don't think there was any doubt there.

He is the best player. But how does that mean he owns the team or can decide who goes and who stays?

I am wondering anyway, how is it determined who owns a team from Riots perspective?

Here 2 members invited 3 new players and are officially still NiP. Could the other 3 players invite 2 new players themselves and form a counter-NiP? Which would be the real one then with the LCS license?

Well none of them are outright removed, merely benched so strictly speaking all 5 are still NiP and therefore hold the seed. It's an interesting thing though I don't think neegodbro/thetess/svenskeren can really be allowed to make a claim to LCS with a new team at this point it'd just be way too much hassle and let's be brutally honest, the team is at the end of the day all about bjergsen.

Yeah I dont think they would do that. Also the official announcement was not quite correct. Svenskeren was not benched, he stepped down by his own decision, because NeeGodBro got benched and he only wanted play with him.

Anyway, my question still stands. Just theoretical, if a LCS team splits up, which part of the team can claim to be the real team then and be in LCS with new members they invite?

Officially it'd probably be the majority (Like see how SKT T1 released reapered's team but everyone but beezlehan left with him so they get SKT's OGN seed) but I get this feeling in reality the star of the team would probably get it so say EG falls apart and splits between froggen/wickd and snoopeh/yellowpete/krepo I get a feeling that it'd be froggen/wickd's side that would get it since froggen is the star of EG.

That last notion cant be true. Not if the other 3 were serious in opposing the 2. Majority would make more sense.
But in this case I would still wonder what kind of "voting right" the official subs would get. Because they are also official team members.
Off-season = best season
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
June 25 2013 23:53 GMT
#4119
I have a very strong feeling that putting the 3 former players in as subs is just a work around on Riot's LCS roster rules. By keeping those players on as subs, they get to maintain the majority needed.
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-25 23:55:26
June 25 2013 23:54 GMT
#4120
On June 26 2013 08:51 Redox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2013 08:47 Fusilero wrote:
On June 26 2013 08:41 Redox wrote:
On June 26 2013 08:35 Fusilero wrote:
On June 26 2013 08:30 Redox wrote:
On June 26 2013 08:23 NeoIllusions wrote:
On June 26 2013 08:18 onlywonderboy wrote:
So, proof NiP is Bjergsen's team first and foremost.

Don't think there was any doubt there.

He is the best player. But how does that mean he owns the team or can decide who goes and who stays?

I am wondering anyway, how is it determined who owns a team from Riots perspective?

Here 2 members invited 3 new players and are officially still NiP. Could the other 3 players invite 2 new players themselves and form a counter-NiP? Which would be the real one then with the LCS license?

Well none of them are outright removed, merely benched so strictly speaking all 5 are still NiP and therefore hold the seed. It's an interesting thing though I don't think neegodbro/thetess/svenskeren can really be allowed to make a claim to LCS with a new team at this point it'd just be way too much hassle and let's be brutally honest, the team is at the end of the day all about bjergsen.

Yeah I dont think they would do that. Also the official announcement was not quite correct. Svenskeren was not benched, he stepped down by his own decision, because NeeGodBro got benched and he only wanted play with him.

Anyway, my question still stands. Just theoretical, if a LCS team splits up, which part of the team can claim to be the real team then and be in LCS with new members they invite?

Officially it'd probably be the majority (Like see how SKT T1 released reapered's team but everyone but beezlehan left with him so they get SKT's OGN seed) but I get this feeling in reality the star of the team would probably get it so say EG falls apart and splits between froggen/wickd and snoopeh/yellowpete/krepo I get a feeling that it'd be froggen/wickd's side that would get it since froggen is the star of EG.

That last notion cant be true. Not if the other 3 were serious in opposing the 2. Majority would make more sense.
But in this case I would still wonder what kind of "voting right" the official subs would get. Because they are also official team members.

Since aAa has taught everyone to take their subs seriously the sub players would probably be the "tie breakers" and it'd likely be determined by who the subs choose to side with.
Still I don't think outright leaves will happen, even if fights broke out management of their teams probably has them all bound to stay at worst subs to retain their seeds that's all speculation though.
Glorious SEA doto
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