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Looks like we're back to status quo. Hope more of you lurkers unburrow and talk with us. :3

If you have any issues or comments about the new design, feel free to PM Neo.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
May 27 2013 08:59 GMT
#3181
On May 27 2013 17:57 mr_tolkien wrote:
Chauster is vastly overrated but is still an upgrade to Aphro.

On the other hand, wtf with everybody saying Xspecial is the best NA support all of a sudden ? You never saw Patoy or what ?

Bloodwater up there too. Gotta rep my hipster support picks.
Not gunna lie though; those janna nados against china were pretty fucking supreme.
liftlift > tsm
mr_tolkien
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France8631 Posts
May 27 2013 09:04 GMT
#3182
On May 27 2013 17:59 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2013 17:57 mr_tolkien wrote:
Chauster is vastly overrated but is still an upgrade to Aphro.

On the other hand, wtf with everybody saying Xspecial is the best NA support all of a sudden ? You never saw Patoy or what ?

Bloodwater up there too. Gotta rep my hipster support picks.
Not gunna lie though; those janna nados against china were pretty fucking supreme.

Well yeah but playing a few games well isn't an indicator of overall skill. Xspecial is pretty average as a support, it's just that he's by far the one having the most visibility.
The legend of Darien lives on
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17303 Posts
May 27 2013 09:09 GMT
#3183
It's not like any of the NA supports are particularly amazing. You're talking marginal differences between them.
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AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
May 27 2013 09:09 GMT
#3184
Personally i dont expect much out of chausterlift. Certainly not enough that it warrants a tripl roster an role swap 2 weeks before the next season starts. In addition to that the have 2 guys who have to learn a new role within 2 weeks.

Doesnt boost my confidence either that chauster has said quite a few times that he hates support.

Really hard to be a fan, after relegation and doubles beast allstar performance i thought they were on a good way but now they basically reset themselves to preseason. I guess it cant be helped if hotshot wants to retire and aphro prob sick of supporting and prefers comfortable streaming moneyz
Jojo131
Profile Joined January 2011
Brazil1631 Posts
May 27 2013 09:22 GMT
#3185
Who does the shot calling in CLG? I assumed it was Hotshotgg this whole time
TheLink
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia2725 Posts
May 27 2013 09:27 GMT
#3186
On May 27 2013 18:22 Jojo131 wrote:
Who does the shot calling in CLG? I assumed it was Hotshotgg this whole time


Chauster's always been shotcaller for CLG, one of the reasons Saint left/kicked. Although they've always had the problem that everyone argues with the shotcaller in-game and they get all disjointed.
Only the weak link is strong enough to break the chain.
clickrush
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Switzerland3257 Posts
May 27 2013 09:28 GMT
#3187
On May 27 2013 18:22 Jojo131 wrote:
Who does the shot calling in CLG? I assumed it was Hotshotgg this whole time


clg thinks that chauster should do it but he apparently doesn't feel comfortable doing it so its kind of a mess but improving i guess.
oGsMC: Zealot defense, Stalker attack, Sentry forcefieldu forcefieldu, Marauder die die
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17303 Posts
May 27 2013 09:33 GMT
#3188
They've been grooming Chauster to do it for several months.
twitch.tv/cratonz
Mensol
Profile Joined September 2012
14536 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-27 09:50:53
May 27 2013 09:41 GMT
#3189
i like everyone on CLG right now. i think i will cheer for them in this season.

Aphro to Crs as new support player, please.
If you don't know what the fuck you are doing, how are your enemies supposed to know what the fuck you are doing. - imaqtpie on NA teams at Worlds.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
May 27 2013 09:51 GMT
#3190
On May 27 2013 18:09 AsnSensation wrote:
Personally i dont expect much out of chausterlift. Certainly not enough that it warrants a tripl roster an role swap 2 weeks before the next season starts. In addition to that the have 2 guys who have to learn a new role within 2 weeks.

Doesnt boost my confidence either that chauster has said quite a few times that he hates support.

Really hard to be a fan, after relegation and doubles beast allstar performance i thought they were on a good way but now they basically reset themselves to preseason. I guess it cant be helped if hotshot wants to retire and aphro prob sick of supporting and prefers comfortable streaming moneyz

I understand that Chau-lift hasn't been on the scene for nearly a year. But damn, ya'll forgot about that botlane dominance.
To be honest, botlane hasn't changed shit since season 2, except for more frequent 2v1 lanes.
liftlift > tsm
Vlanitak
Profile Joined November 2009
Norway3045 Posts
May 27 2013 09:52 GMT
#3191
Im not sold on Nien top, nor Jiji jungle. I do like the fact we have chaulift back bot because Lift needs someone to macro control him. his mechanics and micro is top notch, but having chauster strategically play him around like a chess piece is what made them good back in the days, and hopefully will again now.
washed
JonGalt
Profile Joined February 2013
Pootie too good!4331 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-27 10:18:34
May 27 2013 10:06 GMT
#3192
On May 25 2013 09:56 NeoIllusions wrote:

Show nested quote +
On May 25 2013 09:44 caelym wrote:
I'm ok with not getting official TL recognition. I wouldn't want 100k /r/lol users to migrate over, and threads are hard enough to follow during peak times.


The setup of reddit and TL is vastly different. I'm confident we could handle an influx of new users. Good with the bad and we can handle the bad np.

I've said time and again, I would like to make TL the hub of quality LoL discussion.


So what you're saying is that I should start the ass kissing now so that you'll give me a ban hammer for the rowdy /r/lol bandwagoners?

On a more serious note, ever since I started playing LoL back in Christmas of 2011 - it has slowly and surely become my favorite game. It got me thinking about my progression of favorite games.

NBA Jam -> Rayman -> Mario Kart 64 -> Super Smash Brothers -> Age of Empires II (MSN Gaming Zone FTW) -> SC and SC:BW -> Call of Duty 1 (the only good one. No crosshairs, rifles only) -> Counter Strike 1.6 and Source -> Super Smash Brothers / Mario Kart 64 (relapse!) -> SC2 -> LoL

I was only serious about improving with CSS and SC2 (then again, that had a lot to do with the 1 hour computer limit until I got a laptop for college). When I get back to the states, getting good at LoL is definitely going to happen (instead of playing AP Mid Trist and other trolly/fun stuff).

And on that note, when I move back to the states it will be right before S5. How many seasons you think Riot and LoL can keep up?
LiquidLegends StaffWho is Jon Galt?
vvSiegvv
Profile Joined March 2010
United States364 Posts
May 27 2013 10:23 GMT
#3193
I haven't seen jiji play jungle at all. Does he tend to play more aggressive junglers a la Saint or has he been playing more of a support style of jungle?
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
May 27 2013 10:49 GMT
#3194
On May 27 2013 19:23 vvSiegvv wrote:
I haven't seen jiji play jungle at all. Does he tend to play more aggressive junglers a la Saint or has he been playing more of a support style of jungle?

As long as he isn't going 21sup on J4, I think it'll be an improvement.
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
May 27 2013 11:10 GMT
#3195
A) I will murder anyone at SSB64.
B) CLG CLG CLG
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
qanik
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1899 Posts
May 27 2013 11:13 GMT
#3196
Today is the best of times and the worst of times. You will forever be missed as my favorite player Hotshot. <3<3
Best Teemo World
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-27 11:24:29
May 27 2013 11:21 GMT
#3197
Aphromoo testing out max W Quinn. He doesn't seem satisfied, surprisingly.

On May 27 2013 18:09 Craton wrote:
It's not like any of the NA supports are particularly amazing. You're talking marginal differences between them.

OhGodPatoyZyra *squeal*
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23421 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-27 11:41:52
May 27 2013 11:41 GMT
#3198
On May 27 2013 08:01 zulu_nation8 wrote:
What Soraka is afraid of is all-ins, and she has very weak lane presence early on. If the other AD has higher range or is stronger early then your AD will be behind in CS. But once you reach Lv5 you're fine vs pretty much anyone except when getting hooked. Most poke champions will let you get to Lv5 no problem, but you can't do it vs people who can hard engage like Thresh. Outside of lane phase she has one of the best support skillsets.

Show nested quote +
On May 27 2013 07:59 cLutZ wrote:
On May 27 2013 07:45 zulu_nation8 wrote:
what makes you so sure soraka is weak?


You know, picks, bans, winrates.


Oh so not reason and experience.


Actually, there's an easy solution to this. There's a guy on EUW challenger (i think) called funny style bro, he plays mostly tp smite adyi and soraka support. He starts cloth and runs barrier and gets starcall at level 1 and just all ins and rapes. (often rushing ninja tabi first item) Starcall is like the strongest dps spell at level 1 and you can trade with a dblade AD carry and their support at the same time with q and then heal up with pots and all in and level 2 or something. It turns soraka from a weak until level 5 support to a strong all the time support. I actually started running barrier on sona too because its the same situation but she's a bit weaker against all ins but stronger harass.

I've only won about 50:50 games recently however 1 game we had 2 ppl dc when we were way ahead, the 2nd game crahsed when we again we were ahead and looking for a 20 min surrender, and the 3rd game we were way ahead but we started to throw and we had some useless heros like lee sin lategame and froggens ap kog just basically won the game singlehandely.
I haven't played a game recently with this and felt soraka was weak yet
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
May 27 2013 11:47 GMT
#3199
On May 27 2013 20:10 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
A) I will murder anyone at SSB64.
B) CLG CLG CLG

I really wonder about A... Who do you mean with anyone?
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
zodde
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden1908 Posts
May 27 2013 11:50 GMT
#3200
On May 27 2013 20:47 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2013 20:10 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
A) I will murder anyone at SSB64.
B) CLG CLG CLG

I really wonder about A... Who do you mean with anyone?


He's secretly world champion in super smash bros, obviously :3
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