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Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
May 27 2013 06:31 GMT
#3161
On May 27 2013 15:21 kongoline wrote:
why people build liandrys on vlad? it costs almost as much as deathcap which gives almost the same amount of hp (from passive) and has >150ap more, its not like vlad is rumble with dot and slows to abuse liandrys passive


because Rylai's is so good on Vlad.
Carrilord has arrived.
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
May 27 2013 06:49 GMT
#3162
Can anyone explain the Scarra-Mom thing? Is there a video?
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
May 27 2013 06:50 GMT
#3163
On May 27 2013 15:49 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
Can anyone explain the Scarra-Mom thing? Is there a video?

http://www.gamespot.com/league-of-legends/videos/shanghai-all-stars-2013-doublelift-interview-after-na-vs-eu-6408911/
it was mentioned in this interview.
liftlift > tsm
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
May 27 2013 07:09 GMT
#3164
R.I.P. HotshotNidaleeGG
zer0das
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States8519 Posts
May 27 2013 07:22 GMT
#3165
On May 27 2013 15:21 kongoline wrote:
why people build liandrys on vlad? it costs almost as much as deathcap which gives almost the same amount of hp (from passive) and has >150ap more, its not like vlad is rumble with dot and slows to abuse liandrys passive


It's not too unusual to go Rylai's/Liandry's on Vlad, which is quite strong. Tides of Blood in a teamfight can coat the entire enemy team with the proc. Or in a poke war you just q them all day long and burn them down that way.
Dgiese
Profile Joined July 2010
United States2687 Posts
May 27 2013 07:23 GMT
#3166
Reading various sources it seems that people are sad about hotshot stepping down... Seems like a textbook case of Stockholm syndrome.
Caphe
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Vietnam10817 Posts
May 27 2013 07:37 GMT
#3167
Hotshot finally did it, it is the best decision he's made so far. Stepping down and let other take the top lane is the best thing for CLG.
After All-star, we can all see how important a coach is for a team, if Hotshot somehow can put in the time, the mindset to become CLG coach I will bet everything I have on CLG in the summer LCS.

This is the perfect time for him to stepping down as well, after a good performance the last time CLG played, he proved that hes not entirely out of shape, still can compete but simply take on the coach role for the future of the team.
Terran
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
May 27 2013 07:38 GMT
#3168
You build Rylai/Liandrys on Vlad when you expect the fights to stretch out so that he can deal constant AoE DoT damage by spamming his E, it also is amplified by his ult. Deathcap is way better if you want burst though as always.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Caphe
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Vietnam10817 Posts
May 27 2013 07:40 GMT
#3169
On May 27 2013 12:13 Diamond wrote:
Tried jungle Gragas, was surprisingly not bad. Even got my 1st blue jacked, my bot lane fed like mad, and still ended up with 178 cs at 30 mins. Going to have to work on it a bit more, it's much better than I expected. However DAMN do I suck with Gragas ults. T_T

Gragas rely alot on the first blue. Yesterday I was surprise when CN has no effort at steal KR's blue after they saw Gragas jungle. Even with the blue, Insec manage to spend the entire time in jungle untill he's lv5. KR can get away with it with their superior in every lane. I doubt you can replicate in soloQ. Ofc there are some matches that every lane is winning even without the jungler's help, but those game a few and far in between.
Terran
KissBlade
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States5718 Posts
May 27 2013 07:45 GMT
#3170
On May 27 2013 16:40 Caphe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2013 12:13 Diamond wrote:
Tried jungle Gragas, was surprisingly not bad. Even got my 1st blue jacked, my bot lane fed like mad, and still ended up with 178 cs at 30 mins. Going to have to work on it a bit more, it's much better than I expected. However DAMN do I suck with Gragas ults. T_T

Gragas rely alot on the first blue. Yesterday I was surprise when CN has no effort at steal KR's blue after they saw Gragas jungle. Even with the blue, Insec manage to spend the entire time in jungle untill he's lv5. KR can get away with it with their superior in every lane. I doubt you can replicate in soloQ. Ofc there are some matches that every lane is winning even without the jungler's help, but those game a few and far in between.



I think it's because they got screwed the first game from their invasion attempt so they played it safer the second game. (Nocturne losing blue then having to go to red slowed him down significantly and IMO was one of the biggest snowballs of the game.)
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
May 27 2013 07:51 GMT
#3171
On May 27 2013 16:23 Dgiese wrote:
Reading various sources it seems that people are sad about hotshot stepping down... Seems like a textbook case of Stockholm syndrome.

The only sad part is that we won't see any more great nidalee play; but otherwise good choice. Nien on top; I want to see how that works; also jiji in jungle... Dunno what to think; but ChauLift lane; may god have mercy on LCS botlanes everywhere.
liftlift > tsm
Lylat
Profile Joined August 2009
France8575 Posts
May 27 2013 07:53 GMT
#3172
I don't understand how a team as old as CLG still hasn't figured out that changing roster every 6 month won't change the problem ... They need some stability imo
Caphe
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Vietnam10817 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-27 07:55:02
May 27 2013 07:54 GMT
#3173
On May 27 2013 16:51 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2013 16:23 Dgiese wrote:
Reading various sources it seems that people are sad about hotshot stepping down... Seems like a textbook case of Stockholm syndrome.

The only sad part is that we won't see any more great nidalee play; but otherwise good choice. Nien on top; I want to see how that works; also jiji in jungle... Dunno what to think; but ChauLift lane; may god have mercy on LCS botlanes everywhere.

Yeah. Best bot lane NA/EU no doubt. Top 3 bot lane worldwide, LCS teams better start thinking how to camp bot or abuse the hell out of CLG other lane if they want to win against CLG.
But the jiji jungle... I though this was a joke but its true right?

On May 27 2013 16:53 Lylat wrote:
I don't understand how a team as old as CLG still hasn't figured out that changing roster every 6 month won't change the problem ... They need some stability imo

First time since their establishment there is no HotshotNidaleeGG on the team. Hope they can make this their new beginning.
Terran
Chexx
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)11232 Posts
May 27 2013 08:01 GMT
#3174
I am always confused how people rank chauster lift so high. Did not play together for many months still top 3 best botlane in the whole universum and parallel universums.

WriterFollow me @TL_Chexx
icemanzdoinwork
Profile Joined August 2010
447 Posts
May 27 2013 08:06 GMT
#3175
Can't wait for some Chaulift.

Like others I question the JiJi jungle, maybe it will work. Who really knows. Overall I think the team is stronger, because Hotshot just no longer had it. He should have done this a year ago, but if you have ever been competitive at a top level in a game. You know how hard it is to step away when your time is up. I think he will make a fantastic coach.


Caphe
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Vietnam10817 Posts
May 27 2013 08:08 GMT
#3176
On May 27 2013 17:01 Chexx wrote:
I am always confused how people rank chauster lift so high. Did not play together for many months still top 3 best botlane in the whole universum and parallel universums.


Not right now, but with practice and some real games. They will be, DL proved he is a beast while he paired with Xpecial and DL himself said that Chauster is better than Xpecial. I am not gonna take his word for this cos I think Xpecial is the best NA support right now, but there is no doubt Chauster> Aphro and may come close to Xpecial once they get it rolling.
Terran
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
May 27 2013 08:20 GMT
#3177
On May 27 2013 17:08 Caphe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2013 17:01 Chexx wrote:
I am always confused how people rank chauster lift so high. Did not play together for many months still top 3 best botlane in the whole universum and parallel universums.


Not right now, but with practice and some real games. They will be, DL proved he is a beast while he paired with Xpecial and DL himself said that Chauster is better than Xpecial. I am not gonna take his word for this cos I think Xpecial is the best NA support right now, but there is no doubt Chauster> Aphro and may come close to Xpecial once they get it rolling.

DL saying Xpecial is worse than Chauster doesn't make it the truth... I have my doubts about that. He cannot just go ahead and say that his team's support is worse you know
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Chexx
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)11232 Posts
May 27 2013 08:24 GMT
#3178
Dlift even said that chauster is better than madlife... dont listen to dlift
WriterFollow me @TL_Chexx
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
May 27 2013 08:28 GMT
#3179
On May 27 2013 17:20 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2013 17:08 Caphe wrote:
On May 27 2013 17:01 Chexx wrote:
I am always confused how people rank chauster lift so high. Did not play together for many months still top 3 best botlane in the whole universum and parallel universums.


Not right now, but with practice and some real games. They will be, DL proved he is a beast while he paired with Xpecial and DL himself said that Chauster is better than Xpecial. I am not gonna take his word for this cos I think Xpecial is the best NA support right now, but there is no doubt Chauster> Aphro and may come close to Xpecial once they get it rolling.

DL saying Xpecial is worse than Chauster doesn't make it the truth... I have my doubts about that. He cannot just go ahead and say that his team's support is worse you know

In a vacuum, I don't think Chauster is better than Xpecial, or madlife; But remember; Doublelift was a scrub street urchin orphan, until he got raised by Chauster. Then doubelift, truly learned to DOUBLELIFT. Chauster pretty much made doublelift the player he is today, pretty much the cinderella story of LoL.
liftlift > tsm
mr_tolkien
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France8631 Posts
May 27 2013 08:57 GMT
#3180
Chauster is vastly overrated but is still an upgrade to Aphro.

On the other hand, wtf with everybody saying Xspecial is the best NA support all of a sudden ? You never saw Patoy or what ?
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