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[Patch 3.05.1: Karma Remake] General Discussion - Page 31

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lIlIlIlIlIlI
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Korea (South)3851 Posts
March 30 2013 04:44 GMT
#601
--- Nuked ---
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
March 30 2013 05:53 GMT
#602
Snydra's actually really good and will never need a remake with the crazy damage she puts out so you'll be safe on that one.
Remember Violet.
ketchup
Profile Joined August 2010
14521 Posts
March 30 2013 06:03 GMT
#603
On March 30 2013 13:44 randomKo_Orean wrote:
So I played fuckload of Karma before the remake since beginning of season 2 (?) and she has been my favorite champion for a long time.

I played her (the reworked version) just now for the first time, and this is awful. Seriously, she's just a regular AP mid now with nothing real special about her.

I'm getting real sick with Riot reworking the champs that I play. First Eve (when she was total crap) and now Karma.

I guess I will be picking up Syndra now? inb4 Syndra remake


At least they released her essentially OP? That's some consolation. Too bad they couldn't make mantra more of a signature like I expected them to try to do. So much generic secondary effects :/
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
March 30 2013 06:08 GMT
#604
are ranked queues borked? 15 minute queue time in silver 1? O_O
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
Cixah
Profile Joined July 2010
United States11285 Posts
March 30 2013 06:56 GMT
#605
I'm fine, just got into a que at about 1 minute.
Hug The Goat! Hug the Goat! Hug the Goat!
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35144 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-30 07:56:16
March 30 2013 07:14 GMT
#606
Well shit, can't find the external my guide is on!

I feel all of Reddit needs a debate tutorial.
Diamond
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States10796 Posts
March 30 2013 08:07 GMT
#607
On March 30 2013 15:08 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
are ranked queues borked? 15 minute queue time in silver 1? O_O


Was wondering if it was just me. Was getting 20+ mins que's in Silver 1 too. Idk.

Also Zac seems pretty badass, went 5-0 with him today. That E is sooooo strong.
Ballistix Gaming Global Gaming/Esports Marketing Manager - twitter.com/esvdiamond
dogmatix
Profile Joined April 2011
Australia339 Posts
March 30 2013 10:07 GMT
#608
On March 30 2013 13:44 randomKo_Orean wrote:
So I played fuckload of Karma before the remake since beginning of season 2 (?) and she has been my favorite champion for a long time.

I played her (the reworked version) just now for the first time, and this is awful. Seriously, she's just a regular AP mid now with nothing real special about her.

I'm getting real sick with Riot reworking the champs that I play. First Eve (when she was total crap) and now Karma.

I guess I will be picking up Syndra now? inb4 Syndra remake


I agree with your sentiments.
i miss swagger and low health baits :<
Lylat
Profile Joined August 2009
France8575 Posts
March 30 2013 10:11 GMT
#609
Still no Thresh in solo queue ! YAY
Usagi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Spain1647 Posts
March 30 2013 10:36 GMT
#610
On March 30 2013 19:11 Lylat wrote:
Still no Thresh in solo queue ! YAY

No thresh no game.. No really, 90 of my last ~110 games were with him!
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-30 10:50:41
March 30 2013 10:48 GMT
#611
Karma reworked into a generic AP mid aka Riot's tendency to change every champ into a generic blob.
*riot in the board room*
"gentleman, now that we worked karma into another generic AP mid, what next?"
"I got an idea! WHY DON'T WE MAKE A GENERIC BLOB!? LITERALLY!"
"Brilliant!"
*Zac was born*

IT MAKES SENSE! DON'T YOU LAUGH.
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
ArchAngelSC
Profile Joined April 2012
England706 Posts
March 30 2013 11:31 GMT
#612
I just played a game and my opponent chose Thresh... Thought he was disabled?
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
March 30 2013 11:48 GMT
#613
They released an update which told you to log back in again and he's enabled now. Guess they fixed everything that was wrong.
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
Zhiroo
Profile Joined February 2011
Kosovo2724 Posts
March 30 2013 12:12 GMT
#614
I got flamed and called a feeder and at the end of the game I got two Teamwork honors... Working as intended.
LoL EuW: Zhiroo - By starting this squabble you've proven nothing but how vast your stupidity is.
ArchAngelSC
Profile Joined April 2012
England706 Posts
March 30 2013 12:19 GMT
#615
On March 30 2013 20:48 BlackPaladin wrote:
They released an update which told you to log back in again and he's enabled now. Guess they fixed everything that was wrong.

Hmm... I remember looking at the notice when I was queueing and it still said he was disabled. Nothing about relogging. Oh well
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
March 30 2013 12:35 GMT
#616
On March 30 2013 19:48 BlackPaladin wrote:
Karma reworked into a generic AP mid aka Riot's tendency to change every champ into a generic blob.
*riot in the board room*
"gentleman, now that we worked karma into another generic AP mid, what next?"
"I got an idea! WHY DON'T WE MAKE A GENERIC BLOB!? LITERALLY!"
"Brilliant!"
*Zac was born*

IT MAKES SENSE! DON'T YOU LAUGH.

LOL THIS MADE MY FUCKING DAY
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
Mensol
Profile Joined September 2012
14536 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-30 12:51:29
March 30 2013 12:48 GMT
#617


JUMP N SMITE
If you don't know what the fuck you are doing, how are your enemies supposed to know what the fuck you are doing. - imaqtpie on NA teams at Worlds.
Jek
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark2771 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-30 13:13:12
March 30 2013 13:05 GMT
#618
Zac is so fun to play. The range of E is nothing sort of... Hilarious. How do you guys build him?

I play him jungle and like to go (in no set order):
Sorc boots (or mercs vs heavy cc)
Spectral Wraith
Haunting Guise
Spirit Visage
Locket

Unsure about runes:
* Red: Hybrid, MPen
* Yellow: Armor
* Blue: Mres, CDR, Mpen
* Quint: Hybrid/MPen (depends on reds), Armor, Flat Health Regen

Haven't played a game to 6 items with him yet, but I'd imagine I'd go for another defensive item with HP. Have been considering getting some CDR runes (maxing CDR seems paramount on him) and switching Locket with Aegis.

Reasoning:
I don't really think it's worth it to stack AP on him as jungle (expensive), but I'd rather use his %-based W with max CDR and MPen which makes his team fighting strong, relative fast compared to a more AP heavy build, by jump->ult->spam W.
It's Elo not ELO - Every statiscian playing League
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
March 30 2013 13:40 GMT
#619
On March 30 2013 21:48 Mensol wrote:
<video>
JUMP N SMITE

Fuck my "boo" idea, I may have to buy him just for this. This has so much trolling potential.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
phyvo
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States5635 Posts
March 30 2013 14:20 GMT
#620
On March 30 2013 19:48 BlackPaladin wrote:
Karma reworked into a generic AP mid aka Riot's tendency to change every champ into a generic blob.
*riot in the board room*
"gentleman, now that we worked karma into another generic AP mid, what next?"
"I got an idea! WHY DON'T WE MAKE A GENERIC BLOB!? LITERALLY!"
"Brilliant!"
*Zac was born*

IT MAKES SENSE! DON'T YOU LAUGH.


To be fair Riot tried a more conservative rework of Karma that preserved her unique points but even in internal tests they couldn't get it balanced. If they couldn't balance it internally you know it's bad. Not to say they couldn't have done a better job with this rework, though.
"BE A MANGO TO SLEEP LIKE A SNORING TIGER" - Monte
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