[Patch 3.03: Quinn] General Discussion - Page 70

On March 07 2013 09:12 Ketara wrote:
Here's a discussion point for everybody.

I'm playing around with Ask Mr Robot and looking at item builds for Tristana. I was wondering how good Youmuu's worked into an item rotation. I did a standard ADC mastery setup with a full Armor Pen rune page.

What I found was that a build of IE, BotRK, LW, Youmuu's, does the most DPS in end game builds as long as the target has less than 400 armor, even when you tell it to not include active items. It outdamaged IE, BotRK, LW, PD.

It's surprising to me that the 20 ArPen on Youmuu would be so effective. Is Ask Mr Robot buggy? Or should we start investigating Youmuu's as a *gasp* legit item?

On March 07 2013 09:43 Parnage wrote:
http://leaguecraft.com/discussions/923-new-karma-information-leaked.xhtml

Shiny~

On March 07 2013 09:48 Sufficiency wrote:


I HAVE THE CLASSIC KARMA YES

On March 07 2013 09:50 Parametric wrote:


you and everyone else with 3150ip before the relaunch hits live.

On March 07 2013 09:43 Parnage wrote:
http://leaguecraft.com/discussions/923-new-karma-information-leaked.xhtml

Shiny~

On March 07 2013 09:38 TheYango wrote:
Also note that the BT DOES outperform BotRK at 6-item lategame. IE+BT+PD+LW outdps-es IE+BotRK+PD+LW at all achievable health values (breakeven is like 6k+ max HP).

On March 07 2013 09:38 TheYango wrote:
It's because you're using BotRK instead of BT as your Lifesteal item, and BotRK doesn't benefit at all from itemized crit but DOES benefit from armor pen. If you use Bloodthirster instead of BotRK, the DPS breaks even at ~100 armor for IE+LW+BT+PD vs IE+LW+BotRK+GB, even if the target has 3000 HP. For IE+LW+BT+PD vs IE+LW+BT+GB, breakeven is like 130 armor.

Also note that the BT DOES outperform BotRK at 6-item lategame. IE+BT+PD+LW outdps-es IE+BotRK+PD+LW at all achievable health values (breakeven is like 6k+ max HP).

We are NOT making her a stripper or ANYTHING CLOSE. I have made EXTRA SURE that visual rework efforts steered away from this trend. We are retaining classy and elegant. There might be a bit more skin but it's going to be damn tasteful.

On March 07 2013 10:27 Alaric wrote:
Iron Stylus:


Karma proceeds to:

Yup, going from robes and flat-chested to naked thighs and hyper busty not in contradiction with past statements at all.
Brb buying Karma, that traditional skin actually looks better than the new default.

On March 07 2013 10:08 Ketara wrote:


From what I'm looking at, IE+LW+BT+PD, at least on Tristana, doesn't outdamage IE+LW+BotRK+GB unless the target has a combination of both high armor (more than 250) and low HP (less than 2500). At 2500 HP and 250 armor they look roughly the same.

I'm kind of a noob with Ask Mr Robot, and ADC's in general, but is it suggesting that if you're going to get BotRK instead of BT, you should also be getting Ghostblade?

On March 07 2013 10:27 Alaric wrote:
Iron Stylus:


Karma proceeds to:

Yup, going from robes and flat-chested to naked thighs and hyper busty not in contradiction with past statements at all.
Brb buying Karma, that traditional skin actually looks better than the new default.

On March 07 2013 10:34 TheYango wrote:

Are you buying everything in one trip? Ask Mr. Robot doesn't count BT stacks unless you let time pass after purchasing BT (extra shop trips). If you have two identical builds both containing BT, but one is in a single shop trip and the other has BT purchased first and the other items later, the one that bought BT first and had time to "pick up stacks" has higher damage.