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On February 23 2013 06:12 wei2coolman wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2013 06:08 Requizen wrote: Please don't make Sej a thing. I'm all for seeing more champions come around, but her ult is such unadulterated bullshit that if she was ever viable I'd cry. Flingable amumu ult, what was riot thinking? It's only a 1 second stun for the non-primary targets. Plus the fact it is a skill shot leaves room for counterplay rather than "Oh, Amumu flash ulted".
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On February 23 2013 06:27 onlywonderboy wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2013 06:12 wei2coolman wrote:On February 23 2013 06:08 Requizen wrote: Please don't make Sej a thing. I'm all for seeing more champions come around, but her ult is such unadulterated bullshit that if she was ever viable I'd cry. Flingable amumu ult, what was riot thinking? It's only a 1 second stun for the non-primary targets. Plus the fact it is a skill shot leaves room for counterplay rather than "Oh, Amumu flash ulted". Is it possible to miss sej ult? That thing is fatter than gragas.
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Sorry folks, but Sejuani will never be playable. This boar has such a big ass it makes it instantly lame just to pick her.
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On February 23 2013 06:30 wei2coolman wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2013 06:27 onlywonderboy wrote:On February 23 2013 06:12 wei2coolman wrote:On February 23 2013 06:08 Requizen wrote: Please don't make Sej a thing. I'm all for seeing more champions come around, but her ult is such unadulterated bullshit that if she was ever viable I'd cry. Flingable amumu ult, what was riot thinking? It's only a 1 second stun for the non-primary targets. Plus the fact it is a skill shot leaves room for counterplay rather than "Oh, Amumu flash ulted". Is it possible to miss sej ult? That thing is fatter than gragas.
Yes I've seen more than enough Sej's ult and hit nothing.
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On February 23 2013 06:27 onlywonderboy wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2013 06:12 wei2coolman wrote:On February 23 2013 06:08 Requizen wrote: Please don't make Sej a thing. I'm all for seeing more champions come around, but her ult is such unadulterated bullshit that if she was ever viable I'd cry. Flingable amumu ult, what was riot thinking? It's only a 1 second stun for the non-primary targets. Plus the fact it is a skill shot leaves room for counterplay rather than "Oh, Amumu flash ulted". It's a Malphite ult that isn't all in, allowing you to use it without committing to a fight if you're low or if you're not sure that your team will follow up afterwards, or utilizing it to peel for someone while moving in another direction.
Essentially it's like ECA and CotSM had a baby.
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On February 23 2013 06:30 wei2coolman wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2013 06:27 onlywonderboy wrote:On February 23 2013 06:12 wei2coolman wrote:On February 23 2013 06:08 Requizen wrote: Please don't make Sej a thing. I'm all for seeing more champions come around, but her ult is such unadulterated bullshit that if she was ever viable I'd cry. Flingable amumu ult, what was riot thinking? It's only a 1 second stun for the non-primary targets. Plus the fact it is a skill shot leaves room for counterplay rather than "Oh, Amumu flash ulted". Is it possible to miss sej ult? That thing is fatter than gragas. It is rather disappointing when your jungler misses...
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On February 23 2013 06:30 Zooper31 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2013 06:30 wei2coolman wrote:On February 23 2013 06:27 onlywonderboy wrote:On February 23 2013 06:12 wei2coolman wrote:On February 23 2013 06:08 Requizen wrote: Please don't make Sej a thing. I'm all for seeing more champions come around, but her ult is such unadulterated bullshit that if she was ever viable I'd cry. Flingable amumu ult, what was riot thinking? It's only a 1 second stun for the non-primary targets. Plus the fact it is a skill shot leaves room for counterplay rather than "Oh, Amumu flash ulted". Is it possible to miss sej ult? That thing is fatter than gragas. Yes I've seen more than enough Sej's ult and hit nothing. That's more Sej missing than people dodging, though. It's really damn fast.
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It's Sven's Storm Bolt on a skillshot.
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On February 23 2013 06:31 Requizen wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2013 06:27 onlywonderboy wrote:On February 23 2013 06:12 wei2coolman wrote:On February 23 2013 06:08 Requizen wrote: Please don't make Sej a thing. I'm all for seeing more champions come around, but her ult is such unadulterated bullshit that if she was ever viable I'd cry. Flingable amumu ult, what was riot thinking? It's only a 1 second stun for the non-primary targets. Plus the fact it is a skill shot leaves room for counterplay rather than "Oh, Amumu flash ulted". It's a Malphite ult that isn't all in, allowing you to use it without committing to a fight if you're low or if you're not sure that your team will follow up afterwards, or utilizing it to peel for someone while moving in another direction. Essentially it's like ECA and CotSM had a baby. Oh don't get we wrong, I think it's a strong ult, I just don't think calling it a throwable Amumu ult is the best comparison. Way more room for user error.
Edit: What you said is more apt.
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I like how a few people say they've seen plenty Sej ult miss, I have yet to see the champion itself in my games haha, I remember only 1 single Seju game for the last months and haveplayed 600 ranked games since elo reset.
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On February 23 2013 06:30 wei2coolman wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2013 06:27 onlywonderboy wrote:On February 23 2013 06:12 wei2coolman wrote:On February 23 2013 06:08 Requizen wrote: Please don't make Sej a thing. I'm all for seeing more champions come around, but her ult is such unadulterated bullshit that if she was ever viable I'd cry. Flingable amumu ult, what was riot thinking? It's only a 1 second stun for the non-primary targets. Plus the fact it is a skill shot leaves room for counterplay rather than "Oh, Amumu flash ulted". Is it possible to miss sej ult? That thing is fatter than gragas.
She's the jungler I used the most this season and I still miss her ult during ganks from time to time :p That being said, it's hard to miss it in teamfights: the hitbox is huge and not everyone is going to flash away. I think she's fine as she is, the only change I'd like is to give some sort of mark to enemies affected by frost so you know who will get affected by permafrost.
I've seen her picked twice during the last online qualifiers for the EU LCS, but I guess unless diamond picks her up she'll never become fotm.
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On February 23 2013 05:28 Requizen wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2013 05:26 Two_DoWn wrote:On February 23 2013 05:23 Requizen wrote:On February 23 2013 05:21 Two_DoWn wrote:On February 23 2013 05:18 TheYango wrote: Top always felt like it made more sense to me than jungle, because her early-midgame farm demand is actually quite high, and she doesn't accomplish that much IN the jungle. Plus she's a manaless champ, and manaless automatically = good in lane right? (jk)
She was good at the beginning of S2 because the jungle was in a unique place where she straight-up had higher farming efficiency than everyone else, and that was good enough. I could see her digging a Locket+BOTRK+Wits build from top lane. Interesting thing would be if she could survive a 1v2 lane. Her E would help, but it would be a question of if she could use W without getting massacred. I could actually see her doing well in a 1v2 lane with Hydra. Hard for enemy to shove into your tower when you can destroy the lane with an auto-QW combo. Plus regen and lifesteal rock with her free resists, ofc. Unfortunately, you dont get a hydra at level 1. She can stall pretty well with just W and picking off farm with E. Her speed boost makes her pretty hard to dive early levels unless you have chain hard CC.
Her W doesn't make her hard to dive at all, especially in the context of the super popular 3v1 early jungler dive. In fact, she might have one of the worse kits for 1v2ing because her AoE requires her to stand on top of the ranged creep wave for a decent amount of time where she is going to take some ridiculous damage(and also not have her speed boost anymore).
It sounds like an awful idea.
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On February 23 2013 06:40 AsnSensation wrote: I like how a few people say they've seen plenty Sej ult miss, I have yet to see the champion itself in my games haha, I remember only 1 single Seju game for the last months and haveplayed 600 ranked games since elo reset. One guy (no idea about his skill level though, but the 3rd guy of the premade is prob a 1200 or 1300 level max) tried to troll with top lane Sejuani, he died a lot to Lee Sin but Lee also died a lot to him (basically they loved to kill each other or escape from minion aggro with 10 HP left) and he got to build warmogs+RoA. At one point he saw the enemy team doing baron, around 75% HP on Vayne+Sona+Jarvan+AP Nid. Most of us are dead. He walks in, ults all 4, then QWE in the stack and gets an instant triple, with Jarv having maybe 400 HP left.
I should really take the replay and look at how many stacks of wrath of the ancients they had on their asses because although I know Sej with lane farm does a fuckton of damage over time, seeing her burst them for 2k+ HP was quite the omgwtf moment.
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I think I've seen a Sejuani maybe once since the first month of her release (the first couple weeks you got to see her here and there like any other freshly released champ).
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On February 23 2013 07:05 koreasilver wrote: I think I've seen a Sejuani maybe once since the first month of her release (the first couple weeks you got to see her here and there like any other freshly released champ).
She will be 10% more frequently seen now because I just bought her.
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I know that scarra likes to randomly play Sej mid. Or at least he used to. He used it in that showmatch at S2 finals as well iirc.
I have a friend who jungles Sej sometimes. But he's really bad and Sej actually works for him since at least with Sej he can do CC sometimes to people.
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Last time I duoed wuth a friend of mine he jungled Sej and I went mid Rumble. We 2v5ed the enemy team at one point with just our ults.
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On February 23 2013 05:30 TheYango wrote: Oh the other annoying thing is that the S3 item changes ruined Zeke's for her when in S2 it was like a 4-part combo of everything she wanted in jungle (Lifesteal for sustain, HP to complement her resists, CDR and attack speed being the most efficient combat stats for her due to her high ability base damage and synergy with her passive). The switch to it being AD-based and Vamp being more awkward to build make it less appealing, and the design of the jungle around Machete items is awkward for her because neither Razor nor Spirit are perfect for her.
New botrk should be good on her maybe? Gives Ls/aspd/damage/slow+heal on demand.
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I feel like Sej is good fodder for a TROLLS test, btw. I feel like her early damage being awful is mitigated by Machete/SS somewhat and her ganks have always been halfway decent... Since she scales with HP I'm wondering if she actually might have a place in League of Warmogs.
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ive seen some very successful jungle sejunais in solo q
super tanky with sunfire pain in the ass to get away from and hard to kill
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