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VirgilSC2
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States6151 Posts
November 07 2012 06:08 GMT
#4581
On November 07 2012 15:03 HazMat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2012 14:51 VirgilSC2 wrote:
Just watched Shake get dunked on by LOD

wut

The Twitch last game was I am LOD

Was watching his stream

f**k that Kassadin
Clarity Gaming #1 Fan | Avid MTG Grinder | @VirgilSC2
OutlaW-
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic5053 Posts
November 07 2012 06:09 GMT
#4582
On November 07 2012 14:17 Highwayman wrote:
I don't know. Curse seems like a completely different team with Voy... in a good way.

he definitely fits there better playstyle-wise, saint can now countergank top much better and/or focus on the other lanes
Delete your post underage b&. You're incestuous for you're onee-chan so you're clearly not a bad guy, but others might not agree
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
November 07 2012 06:26 GMT
#4583
On November 07 2012 14:42 PepperoniPiZZa wrote:
Why does Voy go t2 boots first on kat?


Spell pen adds more damage than AP earlygame by allowing your spells to do true damage or nearly true damage vs adding only a few damage with AP.
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
Irave
Profile Joined October 2010
United States9965 Posts
November 07 2012 06:27 GMT
#4584
Haha, the real Regi bros duo q'ing sitting next to each other on Dan's stream. So cute.
OutlaW-
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic5053 Posts
November 07 2012 06:29 GMT
#4585
On November 07 2012 15:26 BlackPaladin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2012 14:42 PepperoniPiZZa wrote:
Why does Voy go t2 boots first on kat?


Spell pen adds more damage than AP earlygame by allowing your spells to do true damage or nearly true damage vs adding only a few damage with AP.

movementspeed is also awlays good
mostly it depends with how muc gold u back
Delete your post underage b&. You're incestuous for you're onee-chan so you're clearly not a bad guy, but others might not agree
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-07 06:40:48
November 07 2012 06:40 GMT
#4586
On November 07 2012 15:26 BlackPaladin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2012 14:42 PepperoniPiZZa wrote:
Why does Voy go t2 boots first on kat?


Spell pen adds more damage than AP earlygame by allowing your spells to do true damage or nearly true damage vs adding only a few damage with AP.


Also I think MS is important since that allows Kat to more easily outplay her opponent. I would have bought sorc boots on every AP mid I play, if it wasn't for mana issues.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
tissue
Profile Joined April 2009
Malaysia441 Posts
November 07 2012 06:56 GMT
#4587
Hey guys, I don't play jungle too much, ran into a situation where I thought I could have done better.

Jungling Shaco in a normal, purple side
My team - Fiora top, Shaco jungle, Galio mid, MF + support Shen bot
Enemy - Fiora/Riven top, no jungle, Morg mid, MF Cho bot

I decided I could either farm both jungles or camp bot lane, and preferred to camp because of Shen. My MF gave fb standing in bush, I ganked mid+bot early and was about 1/1/3 by level 7. We were leading about 7-3 by 10 minutes. However I was underfarmed because I camped bot a lot, but the perfect gank situation rarely came up as my MF was bad and would die during ganks, making it 1 for 1 or 2 for 1. My top laner got cocky and died once and eventually could be dived nonstop by Riven. Mids split farm the whole game.

Midgame came around and I had only wriggles and a phage, enemy Riven was really rich and roamed. My AD carry randomly quit at that point, but I knew we were quite behind by then, I didn't get my team enough of an advantage even with 2 top.

I think my mistake was repeatedly hanging around bot lane too much when kills were being traded, I felt stuck there because of the action. Probably should have farmed both jungles hard instead? I did pick up their buffs but neglected most of my own jungle.
foxmeep
Profile Joined July 2009
Australia2337 Posts
November 07 2012 07:18 GMT
#4588
Barrier as a normal ss... please no!!
Cuddle
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden1345 Posts
November 07 2012 07:31 GMT
#4589
On November 07 2012 15:40 Sufficiency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2012 15:26 BlackPaladin wrote:
On November 07 2012 14:42 PepperoniPiZZa wrote:
Why does Voy go t2 boots first on kat?


Spell pen adds more damage than AP earlygame by allowing your spells to do true damage or nearly true damage vs adding only a few damage with AP.


Also I think MS is important since that allows Kat to more easily outplay her opponent. I would have bought sorc boots on every AP mid I play, if it wasn't for mana issues.


All true things. Also, her W (which is main lane damage spell) only has 0.25 AP ratio. "QEW and get out"-harass is much easier with t2 boots.

It also depends on how much gold you have when you have to go back.
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany12017 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-07 07:36:07
November 07 2012 07:34 GMT
#4590
On November 07 2012 15:56 tissue wrote:
Hey guys, I don't play jungle too much, ran into a situation where I thought I could have done better.

Jungling Shaco in a normal, purple side
My team - Fiora top, Shaco jungle, Galio mid, MF + support Shen bot
Enemy - Fiora/Riven top, no jungle, Morg mid, MF Cho bot

I decided I could either farm both jungles or camp bot lane, and preferred to camp because of Shen. My MF gave fb standing in bush, I ganked mid+bot early and was about 1/1/3 by level 7. We were leading about 7-3 by 10 minutes. However I was underfarmed because I camped bot a lot, but the perfect gank situation rarely came up as my MF was bad and would die during ganks, making it 1 for 1 or 2 for 1. My top laner got cocky and died once and eventually could be dived nonstop by Riven. Mids split farm the whole game.

Midgame came around and I had only wriggles and a phage, enemy Riven was really rich and roamed. My AD carry randomly quit at that point, but I knew we were quite behind by then, I didn't get my team enough of an advantage even with 2 top.

I think my mistake was repeatedly hanging around bot lane too much when kills were being traded, I felt stuck there because of the action. Probably should have farmed both jungles hard instead? I did pick up their buffs but neglected most of my own jungle.


You are Shaco, Shaco is rather bad at farming the jungle. From your description i assume it is a lower level game, in which case i would say gank a lot. Get the buffs, but nothing else from the jungle. With 2 jungles you can permanently have double buffs up, which leads to amazing ganks. You might do one round stealing the large creeps from their jungle, but don't bother clearing up the rest of it, it's not like you will really farm that a lot. After that it highly depends on how you judge top. If you think that you will win a 2v2 (for example when your 1v2 laner hits 6, the enemy gets low trying to dive her, or you can anticipate that they will soon dive her and be there in time), gank top. Otherwise, just alternate between mid and bot. If the lanes are completely ungankable (at the enemy turret), farm the jungle, but as shaco, if you see a good gank, better gank then farm, since shaco ganks, especially at lower levels, have a pretty high chance of success. If you are someone who can effectively farm 2 jungles, like mundo, amumu or shyvana, you can go for that instead, and only take the really good ganks. To be honest, 1/1/3 by level 7 does not sound THAT good for a lower level game as shaco, especially if the enemy has no jungler. I doubt that you can farm a lot more in 2 jungles then in 1 with shaco, and shaco usually doesn't even farm his own jungle that much.
Leeto
Profile Joined August 2007
United States1320 Posts
November 07 2012 07:36 GMT
#4591
Did anyone just catch toyz's stream? He just went 1v4 as cass and got a quadra kill. So good
Sandster
Profile Joined November 2006
United States4054 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-07 08:14:02
November 07 2012 07:39 GMT
#4592
On November 07 2012 16:36 Leeto wrote:
Did anyone just catch toyz's stream? He just went 1v4 as cass and got a quadra kill. So good


Yes, so ridiculous. And this was after killing a fed Draven 1v1.

EDIT: Crs doing ranked 5s, they ace the other team with 1 death. Nyjacky goes "who die??" Tabs, says "ahhh voy you shit!" (This is not long after completely whiffing ori ult.)

So funny.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-07 08:30:39
November 07 2012 08:30 GMT
#4593
On November 07 2012 16:36 Leeto wrote:
Did anyone just catch toyz's stream? He just went 1v4 as cass and got a quadra kill. So good


Interestingly enough, he runs +3 AD and +4 minion damage masteries, HP/lvl yellows, scaling AP blues, and flat AP quints.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Nos-
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada12016 Posts
November 07 2012 08:42 GMT
#4594
On November 07 2012 17:30 Sufficiency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2012 16:36 Leeto wrote:
Did anyone just catch toyz's stream? He just went 1v4 as cass and got a quadra kill. So good


Interestingly enough, he runs +3 AD and +4 minion damage masteries, HP/lvl yellows, scaling AP blues, and flat AP quints.

He stated on stream that he dislikes Cassio cause her hp/lvl gain is garbage, so he runs runes to compensate.
Bronze player stuck in platinum
sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
November 07 2012 08:43 GMT
#4595
On November 07 2012 17:30 Sufficiency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2012 16:36 Leeto wrote:
Did anyone just catch toyz's stream? He just went 1v4 as cass and got a quadra kill. So good


Interestingly enough, he runs +3 AD and +4 minion damage masteries, HP/lvl yellows, scaling AP blues, and flat AP quints.


Lolpro advises the HP yellows, so I dont' think its that unusual.
In Hungry Hungry Hippos there are no such constraints—one can constantly attempt to collect marbles with one’s hippo, limited only by one’s hippo-levering capabilities.
seRapH
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9828 Posts
November 07 2012 08:50 GMT
#4596
On November 07 2012 17:30 Sufficiency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2012 16:36 Leeto wrote:
Did anyone just catch toyz's stream? He just went 1v4 as cass and got a quadra kill. So good


Interestingly enough, he runs +3 AD and +4 minion damage masteries, HP/lvl yellows, scaling AP blues, and flat AP quints.

HOLY CRAP I RUN THE SAME RUNES ON CASSIO
I must be secretly really good at mid
boomer hands
Vlanitak
Profile Joined November 2009
Norway3045 Posts
November 07 2012 10:37 GMT
#4597
Cassio is really squishy through the entire game, so every single piece of HP you get will help with surviving the initial burst dmg (and poke dmg). the ad+ dmg masteries is for easier last hitting ofc

side note: If there is currently anyone from TL with high elo (2200+ ) who really enjoys support playing and aggressive playstyle I am looking for one for a team project. interested can PM me.
washed
Dan HH
Profile Joined July 2012
Romania9246 Posts
November 07 2012 10:51 GMT
#4598
World Elite vs Najin Shield (SWL semifinal)

http://www.twitch.tv/eslasia
XaCez
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden6991 Posts
November 07 2012 11:13 GMT
#4599
On November 07 2012 19:51 Dan HH wrote:
World Elite vs Najin Shield (SWL semifinal)

http://www.twitch.tv/eslasia

Nidalee juking Lee Sin like a boss.
People get too easily offended by people getting too easily offended by the word rape.
Chexx
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)11232 Posts
November 07 2012 11:19 GMT
#4600
OMG What a fail at toplane from Najin
WriterFollow me @TL_Chexx
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