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Doctorbeat
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands13241 Posts
August 20 2012 19:02 GMT
#1381
Lol Twitch, Talon, Kat, Jayce and Shaco.

Hahaha.
- TEAM LIQUID - doctorbeat on LoL
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
August 20 2012 19:05 GMT
#1382
Maybe Riven? Nasus with enough CDR? WW same? Shen? They aren't all anticarries, but their kits and surviving power late game are quite strong. They don't have a dash as efficient as Bladesurge at level 5 tho (but I prefer Riven's mobility).
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
August 20 2012 19:06 GMT
#1383
On August 21 2012 04:01 cLutZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2012 03:53 Requizen wrote:
On August 21 2012 03:44 Mogwai wrote:
On August 21 2012 03:42 Doctorbeat wrote:
Damn that Nunu's build is pretty bad. No armor and 2 drings against an Irelia. Though Reapered is also playing pretty damn good.

For whatever it's worth, that matchup is 100% unwinnable if the Irelia is good. Irelia is so horribly underrated right now.

I never really underrate Irelia, and it baffles me why people do. She hasn't had any major changes other than the hit to Hiten Style on Lulu patch and some base stat buffs since last year. Her kit has always been one of the strongest, her laning is pretty fucking good, and she doesn't really fall off too hard late game.

Reapered playing multitasking game makes me feel inadequate as a gamer

I was trying to figure out what the fuck was wrong with his champ list, and then I thought "oh right, Hangul". I dumb.


Is there a stronger lategame top than Irelia? Besides Jax?

Depends on what you consider "strong", I guess. Yorick has super utility if your AD is legit, Shen has split-push and teamfight power, Nasus has super-farm late game, Trynd's can be amazing if he's not shit, etc.
It's your boy Guzma!
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
August 20 2012 19:09 GMT
#1384
On August 21 2012 04:06 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2012 04:01 cLutZ wrote:
On August 21 2012 03:53 Requizen wrote:
On August 21 2012 03:44 Mogwai wrote:
On August 21 2012 03:42 Doctorbeat wrote:
Damn that Nunu's build is pretty bad. No armor and 2 drings against an Irelia. Though Reapered is also playing pretty damn good.

For whatever it's worth, that matchup is 100% unwinnable if the Irelia is good. Irelia is so horribly underrated right now.

I never really underrate Irelia, and it baffles me why people do. She hasn't had any major changes other than the hit to Hiten Style on Lulu patch and some base stat buffs since last year. Her kit has always been one of the strongest, her laning is pretty fucking good, and she doesn't really fall off too hard late game.

Reapered playing multitasking game makes me feel inadequate as a gamer

I was trying to figure out what the fuck was wrong with his champ list, and then I thought "oh right, Hangul". I dumb.


Is there a stronger lategame top than Irelia? Besides Jax?

Depends on what you consider "strong", I guess. Yorick has super utility if your AD is legit, Shen has split-push and teamfight power, Nasus has super-farm late game, Trynd's can be amazing if he's not shit, etc.

if he gets farm or kills trynds a monster late game, if not he's pretty worthless tho
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
Doctorbeat
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands13241 Posts
August 20 2012 19:09 GMT
#1385
On August 21 2012 04:06 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2012 04:01 cLutZ wrote:
On August 21 2012 03:53 Requizen wrote:
On August 21 2012 03:44 Mogwai wrote:
On August 21 2012 03:42 Doctorbeat wrote:
Damn that Nunu's build is pretty bad. No armor and 2 drings against an Irelia. Though Reapered is also playing pretty damn good.

For whatever it's worth, that matchup is 100% unwinnable if the Irelia is good. Irelia is so horribly underrated right now.

I never really underrate Irelia, and it baffles me why people do. She hasn't had any major changes other than the hit to Hiten Style on Lulu patch and some base stat buffs since last year. Her kit has always been one of the strongest, her laning is pretty fucking good, and she doesn't really fall off too hard late game.

Reapered playing multitasking game makes me feel inadequate as a gamer

I was trying to figure out what the fuck was wrong with his champ list, and then I thought "oh right, Hangul". I dumb.


Is there a stronger lategame top than Irelia? Besides Jax?

Depends on what you consider "strong", I guess. Yorick has super utility if your AD is legit, Shen has split-push and teamfight power, Nasus has super-farm late game, Trynd's can be amazing if he's not shit, etc.


Trynd is amazing if there's no exhaust on him We saw that today with Voyboy against iG.
- TEAM LIQUID - doctorbeat on LoL
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
August 20 2012 19:14 GMT
#1386
On August 21 2012 04:01 cLutZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2012 03:53 Requizen wrote:
On August 21 2012 03:44 Mogwai wrote:
On August 21 2012 03:42 Doctorbeat wrote:
Damn that Nunu's build is pretty bad. No armor and 2 drings against an Irelia. Though Reapered is also playing pretty damn good.

For whatever it's worth, that matchup is 100% unwinnable if the Irelia is good. Irelia is so horribly underrated right now.

I never really underrate Irelia, and it baffles me why people do. She hasn't had any major changes other than the hit to Hiten Style on Lulu patch and some base stat buffs since last year. Her kit has always been one of the strongest, her laning is pretty fucking good, and she doesn't really fall off too hard late game.

Reapered playing multitasking game makes me feel inadequate as a gamer

I was trying to figure out what the fuck was wrong with his champ list, and then I thought "oh right, Hangul". I dumb.


Is there a stronger lategame top than Irelia? Besides Jax?

jax pretty overrated late to be honest. It's just he tends to get fed off his ridiculous midgame. I think there a lot of tops with better lategames than them, but ideally for late game you'd want an ap with lots of sustained damage that can't get kited. I'd probably say rumble or vlad.
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
August 20 2012 19:16 GMT
#1387
Oh, and there was an AD Sion that got really scary late game, but that was probably just because my top threw super duper hard and gave him 8 kills. Still, every time his Ult was up, he just kind of right clicked on shit and won.
It's your boy Guzma!
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
August 20 2012 19:22 GMT
#1388
Kayle scales pretty well, mostly because she's an AD carry~.
liftlift > tsm
Antyee
Profile Joined May 2011
Hungary1011 Posts
August 20 2012 19:26 GMT
#1389
Poppy also scales quite well.
Shame her laning is very poor :/
"My spoon is too big."
kainzero
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States5211 Posts
August 20 2012 19:43 GMT
#1390
my games of irelia have always been something like this:

-play passive, farm at tower
-go back, get good item and teleport back
-get greedy, play stupid, die to dumb mistake or gank. repeat once if necessary.
-go back to passive farming
-get in teamfight, win fight, win game
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-20 19:45:43
August 20 2012 19:45 GMT
#1391
On August 21 2012 04:01 cLutZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2012 03:53 Requizen wrote:
On August 21 2012 03:44 Mogwai wrote:
On August 21 2012 03:42 Doctorbeat wrote:
Damn that Nunu's build is pretty bad. No armor and 2 drings against an Irelia. Though Reapered is also playing pretty damn good.

For whatever it's worth, that matchup is 100% unwinnable if the Irelia is good. Irelia is so horribly underrated right now.

I never really underrate Irelia, and it baffles me why people do. She hasn't had any major changes other than the hit to Hiten Style on Lulu patch and some base stat buffs since last year. Her kit has always been one of the strongest, her laning is pretty fucking good, and she doesn't really fall off too hard late game.

Reapered playing multitasking game makes me feel inadequate as a gamer

I was trying to figure out what the fuck was wrong with his champ list, and then I thought "oh right, Hangul". I dumb.


Is there a stronger lategame top than Irelia? Besides Jax?

Nasus, WW, Singed, I'm sure there are others. They're not stronger, but at least just as good.
On August 21 2012 04:14 UniversalSnip wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2012 04:01 cLutZ wrote:
On August 21 2012 03:53 Requizen wrote:
On August 21 2012 03:44 Mogwai wrote:
On August 21 2012 03:42 Doctorbeat wrote:
Damn that Nunu's build is pretty bad. No armor and 2 drings against an Irelia. Though Reapered is also playing pretty damn good.

For whatever it's worth, that matchup is 100% unwinnable if the Irelia is good. Irelia is so horribly underrated right now.

I never really underrate Irelia, and it baffles me why people do. She hasn't had any major changes other than the hit to Hiten Style on Lulu patch and some base stat buffs since last year. Her kit has always been one of the strongest, her laning is pretty fucking good, and she doesn't really fall off too hard late game.

Reapered playing multitasking game makes me feel inadequate as a gamer

I was trying to figure out what the fuck was wrong with his champ list, and then I thought "oh right, Hangul". I dumb.


Is there a stronger lategame top than Irelia? Besides Jax?

jax pretty overrated late to be honest. It's just he tends to get fed off his ridiculous midgame. I think there a lot of tops with better lategames than them, but ideally for late game you'd want an ap with lots of sustained damage that can't get kited. I'd probably say rumble or vlad.

Full build Jax does terrible terrible damage.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
August 20 2012 19:49 GMT
#1392
Irelia is strongest mid game, not nearly as strong late game.
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
August 20 2012 19:52 GMT
#1393
On August 21 2012 04:22 wei2coolman wrote:
Kayle scales pretty well, mostly because she's an AD carry~.

I don't think she scales that well as an AD carry. Just because someone is ranged, and ranged champs with certain items have really high dps, it doesn't mean they're more useful than someone with lower dps. Kayle's range is pretty bad, her E goes on cooldown, and her best defence, (although a really good one) is a 3 second invulnerability that often has to be used to save someone else.

You can be greedy and try to save the ult for yourself but I don't think this is a good idea for getting wins. I still think she scales really well, but more as a bruiser than a straight ADC.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
August 20 2012 19:57 GMT
#1394
On August 21 2012 04:49 zulu_nation8 wrote:
Irelia is strongest mid game, not nearly as strong late game.

She's still easily top 3 AD bruisers late game. Her class is notoriously weak late game though, so yea, take it with a grain of salt.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
Chiharu Harukaze
Profile Joined September 2011
12112 Posts
August 20 2012 20:00 GMT
#1395
On August 21 2012 04:57 Mogwai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2012 04:49 zulu_nation8 wrote:
Irelia is strongest mid game, not nearly as strong late game.

She's still easily top 3 AD bruisers late game. Her class is notoriously weak late game though, so yea, take it with a grain of salt.

How do you feel about double AP lategame then?
It's like, "Is the Federation's Mobile Suit some kind of monster?"
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
August 20 2012 20:02 GMT
#1396
Reapered top lane Shaco ezpz. This guy is really entertaining.
It's your boy Guzma!
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-20 20:09:59
August 20 2012 20:07 GMT
#1397
I feel like double ap late game<strong tanks with initiate (singed, malphite, amumu maokai naut etc)<bruisery teamcomps<double ap but that's a pretty broad sided look and shouldn't be taken too seriously.
Zhiroo
Profile Joined February 2011
Kosovo2724 Posts
August 20 2012 20:08 GMT
#1398
On August 21 2012 05:02 Requizen wrote:
Reapered top lane Shaco ezpz. This guy is really entertaining.


Lol he just crushed Garen 1v1
LoL EuW: Zhiroo - By starting this squabble you've proven nothing but how vast your stupidity is.
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
August 20 2012 20:08 GMT
#1399
On August 21 2012 05:07 Slayer91 wrote:
I feel like double ap late game>strong tanks with initiate (singed, malphite, amumu maokai naut etc)<bruisery teamcomps<double ap but that's a pretty broad sided look and shouldn't be taken too seriously.

Singed doesn't initiate he just runs around dealing lots of damage.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-20 20:10:55
August 20 2012 20:10 GMT
#1400
Fling is an initiate when they have no front line kinda, but you need to be really farmed godmode. Unless they have amumu with their double ap or something their 1 under farmed tank with aegis philo hog and oracles isn't going to zone anyone from killing their aps instantly.
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