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IMoperator
Profile Joined October 2011
4476 Posts
July 21 2012 06:39 GMT
#501
Trying to play trist as an ad carry, and I can't seem to do well with her. Early/mid game it seems like she does no damage to anybody, and I can't harass in lane very well (even with her long range) and I don't get any kills. I've been going boots/pots start into 2 dorans into IE, is this a good build? any help would be appreciated.
Frolossus
Profile Joined February 2010
United States4779 Posts
July 21 2012 06:40 GMT
#502
On July 21 2012 15:39 IMoperator wrote:
Trying to play trist as an ad carry, and I can't seem to do well with her. Early/mid game it seems like she does no damage to anybody, and I can't harass in lane very well (even with her long range) and I don't get any kills. I've been going boots/pots start into 2 dorans into IE, is this a good build? any help would be appreciated.

max W first and lane with blitz/leona/alistar
Juddas
Profile Joined January 2011
768 Posts
July 21 2012 07:00 GMT
#503
On July 21 2012 15:30 Cloud9157 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2012 15:13 Juddas wrote:
Hey on Irelia, I know nothing changed for her but I have been dabbling with a new build for her. What I used to do was boots 3, Philo HoG, then work on my Tforce, getting whichever component I need most.

Nowadays, and especially after the GP10 nerfs, I have been going boots 3, zeal or phage, (Wits End), Finish Tforce, then a PD. Sometimes I wont get the PD, and I wont get PD and Wits, but if I am vs. Physical damage top I have almost always been getting a PD after triforce. Is this normal/ok? It has reaaaallly been working for me and I have gotten 2 quardras in the past 10 games with her with this build. Of course afterwards I get a GA, and then if I'm really ahead I actually really like the new ionic spark.

Thoughts?


Even though triforce is completely retarded on her, I'm still more of a frotmas person myself. Either way, phage is awesome on her vs ADs top. Usually build it after I grab my tabi and then start going into Wit's.

PD is interesting. I understand wanting more attack speed, but I think Wit's provides you with a good deal of it. Would probably replace it with a tank item like Randuin's myself.

Ideally, I wind up with mercs, frotmas, wits, GA, and then either a Randuin's or another MR item depending on their team comp.


Well I used to get Wit's, and it is probably better overall, but I just feel so much better with that extra movespeed with her. With all that speed and infinite tenacity, she just dives so well.

And I would always get Wit's if I'm vs magic dmg top, but vs. the AD bruiser, I have been getting PD. And wow you go way tankier than I do lol
Cloud9157
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2968 Posts
July 21 2012 07:15 GMT
#504
On July 21 2012 16:00 Juddas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2012 15:30 Cloud9157 wrote:
On July 21 2012 15:13 Juddas wrote:
Hey on Irelia, I know nothing changed for her but I have been dabbling with a new build for her. What I used to do was boots 3, Philo HoG, then work on my Tforce, getting whichever component I need most.

Nowadays, and especially after the GP10 nerfs, I have been going boots 3, zeal or phage, (Wits End), Finish Tforce, then a PD. Sometimes I wont get the PD, and I wont get PD and Wits, but if I am vs. Physical damage top I have almost always been getting a PD after triforce. Is this normal/ok? It has reaaaallly been working for me and I have gotten 2 quardras in the past 10 games with her with this build. Of course afterwards I get a GA, and then if I'm really ahead I actually really like the new ionic spark.

Thoughts?


Even though triforce is completely retarded on her, I'm still more of a frotmas person myself. Either way, phage is awesome on her vs ADs top. Usually build it after I grab my tabi and then start going into Wit's.

PD is interesting. I understand wanting more attack speed, but I think Wit's provides you with a good deal of it. Would probably replace it with a tank item like Randuin's myself.

Ideally, I wind up with mercs, frotmas, wits, GA, and then either a Randuin's or another MR item depending on their team comp.


Well I used to get Wit's, and it is probably better overall, but I just feel so much better with that extra movespeed with her. With all that speed and infinite tenacity, she just dives so well.

And I would always get Wit's if I'm vs magic dmg top, but vs. the AD bruiser, I have been getting PD. And wow you go way tankier than I do lol


Yeah, its fairly tanky, maybe a little too much sometimes. Usually you don't need to build a ridiculous amount of damage on her. Hopefully your AP mid and mostly the AD carry will still be doing damage. If your team does seem to lack damage come late game, then building more damage wouldn't hurt.

The great thing about Wit's is that everything it gives you is awesome. AS, MR/hit, and the passive magic damage you deal. Adding that in with your true damage and increased AD from frotmas is usually plenty of damage for me. MS on a PD would help a bit, but your support should have shurleya's, providing you a great burst of speed for an engage. That or you have a jungler with an awesome initiate like Naut/Shyv/Mundo.
"Are you absolutely sure that armor only affects the health portion of a protoss army??? That doesn't sound right to me. source?" -Some idiot
Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
July 21 2012 07:42 GMT
#505
Is Wriggles/PD still the best build for Kog'Maw? (Haven't watched any competitive games with Kog lately).
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JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
July 21 2012 08:09 GMT
#506
On July 21 2012 16:42 Inflicted_ wrote:
Is Wriggles/PD still the best build for Kog'Maw? (Haven't watched any competitive games with Kog lately).

Best kog build is PD/IE, like on any other carry.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
wussleeQ
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States3130 Posts
July 21 2012 08:25 GMT
#507
On July 21 2012 17:09 JackDino wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2012 16:42 Inflicted_ wrote:
Is Wriggles/PD still the best build for Kog'Maw? (Haven't watched any competitive games with Kog lately).

Best kog build is PD/IE, like on any other carry.

Except you actually get PD first on kog unlike any other carry
BW -> League -> CSGO
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
July 21 2012 08:38 GMT
#508
CLG streams are hillarious because you Voy/chauster/doublelift/hotshot self commentating their solo queue games. Jiji only one that just stays silent.
www.youtube.com/user/ShakeDrizzle | League and SSBM content creator | Armada's Youtube Editor
Parnage
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States7414 Posts
July 21 2012 08:47 GMT
#509
Meanwhile on Saint's stream tell all information on thoughts of the NA team by Drunken Saint while randoming 3v3's with Aphro and Muffin. Top lines include

"Oddone didnt teach me shit..he just taught me to get carried by Dyrus"
and
"Shyvana is the perfect jungler"
-orb- Fan. Live the Nal_rA dream. || Yordles are cool.
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
July 21 2012 09:01 GMT
#510
Saint telling elementz.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
Parnage
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States7414 Posts
July 21 2012 09:05 GMT
#511
Watching the curse house is gold right now, pure freaking gold.
-orb- Fan. Live the Nal_rA dream. || Yordles are cool.
HPoirot
Profile Joined June 2011
United States1303 Posts
July 21 2012 09:11 GMT
#512
Drunk Saint funny alone, not at all funny when he's in a house with his team. Him getting forced out of CLG Prime makes much more sense now if he was like this in Korea.
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
July 21 2012 09:16 GMT
#513
Cursey Shore, they should broadcast that shit on tv, be real rich.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
July 21 2012 09:17 GMT
#514
On July 21 2012 18:05 Parnage wrote:
Watching the curse house is gold right now, pure freaking gold.

Oh god thanks for this.

WESTRICE THINK FOR YOURSELF. IT'S SO HARD FOR ME TO THINK FOR YOU GUYS. MAYBE I CAN FOCUS ON JUNGLING IF I DONT HAVE TO THINK FOR YOU GUYS.
www.youtube.com/user/ShakeDrizzle | League and SSBM content creator | Armada's Youtube Editor
Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
July 21 2012 09:17 GMT
#515
No wonder Saint got kicked off of CLG if he acts like this while drunk in a group environment.
Porouscloud - NA LoL
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
July 21 2012 09:20 GMT
#516
Saint was kicked from CLG because he slept with bekkah, back in korea he was the only one who actually wanted to practice.
No one else wanted to practice, guess why they lost in korea.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
Parnage
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States7414 Posts
July 21 2012 09:20 GMT
#517
The sad part of it is, Saint isn't too far off base but he's just kind of ranting and it just doesn't look good coming out of him speaking in raised tones and such. At least now he's hitting the more positive aspects of "LETS BE A TEAM YOU BASTARDS" speech.

-orb- Fan. Live the Nal_rA dream. || Yordles are cool.
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
July 21 2012 09:22 GMT
#518
On July 21 2012 18:20 Parnage wrote:
The sad part of it is, Saint isn't too far off base but he's just kind of ranting and it just doesn't look good coming out of him speaking in raised tones and such. At least now he's hitting the more positive aspects of "LETS BE A TEAM YOU BASTARDS" speech.


Yeah he's right. I still can't wrap my head around how Elementz is on a pro team. It's apparent on here that he really doesn't give a shit and he's also not a great player.
www.youtube.com/user/ShakeDrizzle | League and SSBM content creator | Armada's Youtube Editor
Hyren
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States817 Posts
July 21 2012 09:23 GMT
#519
Obviously Saint's drunken-delivery is over the top but his message is pretty darn accurate.
Power-tripping mod for Trump's stream
HPoirot
Profile Joined June 2011
United States1303 Posts
July 21 2012 09:24 GMT
#520
On July 21 2012 18:17 HazMat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2012 18:05 Parnage wrote:
Watching the curse house is gold right now, pure freaking gold.

Oh god thanks for this.

WESTRICE THINK FOR YOURSELF. IT'S SO HARD FOR ME TO THINK FOR YOU GUYS. MAYBE I CAN FOCUS ON JUNGLING IF I DONT HAVE TO THINK FOR YOU GUYS.

THAT'S WHY CDE WAS THE BEST TEAM EVER, EVERYBODY KNEW WHAT THEY HAD TO DO

This is much less uncomfortable now that he's not yelling at Elementz. Some pretty damn valid points here, shame the angry ranting beforehand means his team has probably stopped paying attention by now(except for Westrice, good for him).
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