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HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
July 11 2012 14:13 GMT
#521
Lame that these are only bo1's.
www.youtube.com/user/ShakeDrizzle | League and SSBM content creator | Armada's Youtube Editor
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
July 11 2012 14:13 GMT
#522
On July 11 2012 23:04 Sufficiency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2012 22:31 HazMat wrote:
Can you watch live from the OGN site without paying. I see you have to create an account but do you also have to pay or is that only for vods?


This is a bit late, but this link works: http://www.twitch.tv/azubuogn/popout

It is free. I'd use it (have an account and everything) but for some unknown reason twitch.tv streams don't work here.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
DonKey_
Profile Joined May 2010
Liechtenstein1356 Posts
July 11 2012 14:16 GMT
#523
dig stayin alive so far <3
`Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad. You're mad.'
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-11 14:23:10
July 11 2012 14:17 GMT
#524
On July 11 2012 23:02 Inflicted_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2012 23:00 Ryuu314 wrote:
On July 11 2012 22:56 Jamial wrote:
Stinger on kayle???? Explain it to me.

i still think stinger->nashors is useless 99% of the time. this game was not the 1%.


Stinger (no upgrade) is fine imo, you want attack speed on Kayle and the 10% cdr helps keep your E up forever.

Or you can just get zeal and do way more damage. CDR's nice on Kayle but it's not important nor necessary. I personally wouldn't spend an item slot and 1k to get 10%. If you really want that cdr get a bruta, it'll do more for you. Or hog blue buff. Or get cdr boots. Or chug blue elixir. Heck, get some cdr blues or quints+masteries for the 10% if you really really really want it.

Also, Kayle's E lasts 10 seconds which is more or less the duration for most teamfights. Getting only stinger+masteries is 14% cdr, which reduces the cd of E by 2 seconds to 14 seconds. I doubt a teamfight will drag out to 14 seconds+. Furthermore, compare that to Kog's W, which only lasts 8 seconds with a cd of 17 seconds. You don't see Kog building cdr do you?

Kayle's role is more or less a secondary range AD. She's there to do lots of damage and provide a little bit of support with W+R. Stinger barely helps you fulfill your role.
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
July 11 2012 14:17 GMT
#525
On July 11 2012 23:13 HazMat wrote:
Lame that these are only bo1's.

True, its not enough games for such a high profile tournament. Makes results too random.
Off-season = best season
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
July 11 2012 14:18 GMT
#526
And gives me a reason to wake up at 6am!
www.youtube.com/user/ShakeDrizzle | League and SSBM content creator | Armada's Youtube Editor
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-11 14:20:59
July 11 2012 14:20 GMT
#527
On July 11 2012 23:18 HazMat wrote:
And gives me a reason to wake up at 6am!


Next set of games is on Friday night Korean time, right? That's not too bad... better than those 12noon SCBW proleague games.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
NeurOnuS
Profile Joined August 2010
France182 Posts
July 11 2012 14:25 GMT
#528
On July 11 2012 23:20 Sufficiency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2012 23:18 HazMat wrote:
And gives me a reason to wake up at 6am!


Next set of games is on Friday night Korean time, right? That's not too bad... better than those 12noon SCBW proleague games.

You are correct. Next set of games is Friday at 19:30 KST (12:30 CEST, 6:30 EDT). I hope Dignitas won't play too passively like they did in the first game today.
Broken english
Jamial
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark1289 Posts
July 11 2012 14:28 GMT
#529
On July 11 2012 23:17 Ryuu314 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2012 23:02 Inflicted_ wrote:
On July 11 2012 23:00 Ryuu314 wrote:
On July 11 2012 22:56 Jamial wrote:
Stinger on kayle???? Explain it to me.

i still think stinger->nashors is useless 99% of the time. this game was not the 1%.


Stinger (no upgrade) is fine imo, you want attack speed on Kayle and the 10% cdr helps keep your E up forever.

Or you can just get zeal and do way more damage. CDR's nice on Kayle but it's not important nor necessary. I personally wouldn't spend an item slot and 1k to get 10%. If you really want that cdr get a bruta, it'll do more for you. Or hog blue buff. Or get cdr boots. Or chug blue elixir. Heck, get some cdr blues or quints+masteries for the 10% if you really really really want it.

Also, Kayle's E lasts 10 seconds which is more or less the duration for most teamfights. Getting only stinger+masteries is 14% cdr, which reduces the cd of E by 2 seconds to 14 seconds. I doubt a teamfight will drag out to 14 seconds+. Furthermore, compare that to Kog's W, which only lasts 8 seconds with a cd of 17 seconds. You don't see Kog building cdr do you?

Kayle's role is more or less a secondary range AD. She's there to do lots of damage and provide a little bit of support with W+R. Stinger barely helps you fulfill your role.


I couldn't agree more. Stinger is just a useless item on kayle, waste of 1k gold.
Flaf?
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
July 11 2012 14:38 GMT
#530
On July 11 2012 23:20 Sufficiency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2012 23:18 HazMat wrote:
And gives me a reason to wake up at 6am!


Next set of games is on Friday night Korean time, right? That's not too bad... better than those 12noon SCBW proleague games.

That's still 6am here in the east coast.
www.youtube.com/user/ShakeDrizzle | League and SSBM content creator | Armada's Youtube Editor
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-11 14:45:08
July 11 2012 14:44 GMT
#531
On July 11 2012 23:25 NeurOnuS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2012 23:20 Sufficiency wrote:
On July 11 2012 23:18 HazMat wrote:
And gives me a reason to wake up at 6am!


Next set of games is on Friday night Korean time, right? That's not too bad... better than those 12noon SCBW proleague games.

You are correct. Next set of games is Friday at 19:30 KST (12:30 CEST, 6:30 EDT). I hope Dignitas won't play too passively like they did in the first game today.


What I really didn't understand about their first game is why they wouldn't do Irelia mid against Ahri and Vladimir top against Malphite. Or why play Vlad mid at all.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
July 11 2012 15:29 GMT
#532
So this tournament is group stages right? And since Dignitas went + Show Spoiler +
1-1. They have to win their next game to have a chance to advance? And then if some other team is also 2-1 they would have some sort of tiebreaker?
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Chexx
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)11232 Posts
July 11 2012 15:38 GMT
#533
On July 12 2012 00:29 HazMat wrote:
So this tournament is group stages right? And since Dignitas went + Show Spoiler +
1-1. They have to win their next game to have a chance to advance? And then if some other team is also 2-1 they would have some sort of tiebreaker?



yes they need to win. Vlanitak said if they tie then the match time decides.
WriterFollow me @TL_Chexx
Live2Win *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States6657 Posts
July 11 2012 15:45 GMT
#534
2-1 doesn't guarantee a win.

Current results are:
+ Show Spoiler +
Dignitas: 1-1
Azubu Frost: 0-1
Najin Sword: 1-0
RoMg: 1-1

Games left are Dignitas vs Frost, Frost vs Sword, and RoMg vs Sword.

Even if Dignitas wins, if Frost goes 0-3 then RoMg wins out against Najin Sword, then that leaves three 2-1 teams and we go into tie-breaker. If Dignitas loses and Najin Sword goes 3-0, then that leaves three teams with 1-2 and again we go into tiebreaker.


SAY YES TO STIM KIDS!!! XD
Live2Win *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States6657 Posts
July 11 2012 15:46 GMT
#535
On July 12 2012 00:38 Chexx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2012 00:29 HazMat wrote:
So this tournament is group stages right? And since Dignitas went + Show Spoiler +
1-1. They have to win their next game to have a chance to advance? And then if some other team is also 2-1 they would have some sort of tiebreaker?



yes they need to win. Vlanitak said if they tie then the match time decides.

OGN commentators (from the Korean stream) were talking about re-matches being a real possibility. I'm not sure what the rules are tbh
SAY YES TO STIM KIDS!!! XD
Chexx
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)11232 Posts
July 11 2012 15:54 GMT
#536
I think we will see on friday. Will be an interesting night in the studio :D

looking forward to it. RoMg suprised with really solid play today
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Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
July 11 2012 18:31 GMT
#537
On July 12 2012 00:45 Live2Win wrote:
2-1 doesn't guarantee a win.

Current results are:
+ Show Spoiler +
Dignitas: 1-1
Azubu Frost: 0-1
Najin Sword: 1-0
RoMg: 1-1

Games left are Dignitas vs Frost, Frost vs Sword, and RoMg vs Sword.

Even if Dignitas wins, if Frost goes 0-3 then RoMg wins out against Najin Sword, then that leaves three 2-1 teams and we go into tie-breaker. If Dignitas loses and Najin Sword goes 3-0, then that leaves three teams with 1-2 and again we go into tiebreaker.




But my limited understanding is that Azubu Frost is very strong?
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Chiharu Harukaze
Profile Joined September 2011
12112 Posts
July 11 2012 20:46 GMT
#538
On July 12 2012 03:31 Sufficiency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2012 00:45 Live2Win wrote:
2-1 doesn't guarantee a win.

Current results are:
+ Show Spoiler +
Dignitas: 1-1
Azubu Frost: 0-1
Najin Sword: 1-0
RoMg: 1-1

Games left are Dignitas vs Frost, Frost vs Sword, and RoMg vs Sword.

Even if Dignitas wins, if Frost goes 0-3 then RoMg wins out against Najin Sword, then that leaves three 2-1 teams and we go into tie-breaker. If Dignitas loses and Najin Sword goes 3-0, then that leaves three teams with 1-2 and again we go into tiebreaker.




But my limited understanding is that Azubu Frost is very strong?

Locodoco, their former AD Carry, was their main shot caller so they not only lost their AD they also need someone to make calls for them now. While Gunwoong/Rjsdndgod/Woong is technically their captain, iirc he did more ban+picks than calls in-game.
It's like, "Is the Federation's Mobile Suit some kind of monster?"
Live2Win *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States6657 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-12 00:01:45
July 12 2012 00:01 GMT
#539
On July 11 2012 13:43 Live2Win wrote:
Group A:
Game 2 - WE vs Shield: + Show Spoiler +

Game 4 - Blaze vs Shield: + Show Spoiler +

Game 6 - WE vs Blaze + Show Spoiler +
SAY YES TO STIM KIDS!!! XD
JBright
Profile Joined September 2010
Vancouver14381 Posts
July 12 2012 00:27 GMT
#540
On July 12 2012 00:54 Chexx wrote:
I think we will see on friday. Will be an interesting night in the studio :D

looking forward to it. RoMg suprised with really solid play today


The only problem will be how they can find the time for rematches. We're looking at a 3 way tie and they will need at least 2 more games to fully determine order. First match start at 19:30 and they give ~60 min per game, which means it'll be after midnight for 5 games if everything goes on time. I remember someone saying that public transit shuts down after midnight so it could be a problem.
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