On May 12 2012 12:11 zulu_nation8 wrote: everyone knows cait > graves in lane but it also depends on support
Cait barely has more range then Graves. You try to headshot he will get an auto and Q on you.
You obviously haven't watched doublelift play caitlyn.
my favourite thing to link to to people who don't believe
He also crushed the graves in lane during the NESL match earlier.
Also, "barely more range" is 125 range. That's HUGE. Caitlyn only has 100 more range than Vayne for example.
That Video is a pretty bad example for a Cait vs Graves lane.. Graves at lvl 1 does not take a potion when harassed down to 60% life and then takes a fight at that life total with both alistar and him being lvl1 vs Cait+Taric at lvl2. Giving up firstblood and wasting his partners summoner heal...ofc the Taric lane gets to crush him after that. Sure she has massively more range, but if you don't give up an early advantage so long as you have a support that can help you gap close Graves does perfectly fine vs Caitlyn.
Cait > everyone she outranges by at least 100 range. The way you beat her is either by sneaking in sufficient cs, having enough range to still keep farming, finding a way to turn the lane into a free farm lane, or have a duo bot with supah burst so then she isn't permanently standing in front trying to use headshot to deny you. There's two ways to win the lane for her. The first is to ignore all the cs in the first two waves and establish zoning control. The second is to just push wave to tower and snipe you under tower as you try to cs.
It's obviously still support dependent, but for the most part something like a well played Janna+Cait will still smash Graves+almost any support.
Rly nice play by CLG to protect kog from the ulting in shen+noc and then they just clean up with insane dmg, despite being really low after every fight. CLG take g1.
Yeah Noc had a hell of a time trying to dive Froggen when he had to eat Taric stun+Mundo Cleavers. Not to mention Taric's armor buff made it harder for him to kill Kog anyway.
On May 12 2012 21:00 Ferrose wrote: Yeah Noc had a hell of a time trying to dive Froggen when he had to eat Taric stun+Mundo Cleavers. Not to mention Taric's armor buff made it harder for him to kill Kog anyway.
Kennen ult and Kog slow as well. The rest of the team does like nothing as well while they are kiting. They needed to engage as a whole team with Karthus wall, Nunu ult and Varus ult, but CLG never let that happen.
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