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Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
March 30 2012 20:08 GMT
#2481
On March 31 2012 04:57 Vallelol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 31 2012 04:52 WaveofShadow wrote:
Oh holy shit.
Dyrus with over 20k viewers.


and I really don't get it...

Seriously.
Not hatin', but why watch Dyrus stream the same game as everyone else on TSM and CLG?
See same game, without his "voice".
A backwards poet writes inverse.
Vallelol
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany1046 Posts
March 30 2012 20:10 GMT
#2482
Froggen followed his build up with HoG
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-30 20:12:06
March 30 2012 20:11 GMT
#2483
On March 31 2012 05:08 Dandel Ion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 31 2012 04:57 Vallelol wrote:
On March 31 2012 04:52 WaveofShadow wrote:
Oh holy shit.
Dyrus with over 20k viewers.


and I really don't get it...

Seriously.
Not hatin', but why watch Dyrus stream the same game as everyone else on TSM and CLG?
See same game, without his "voice".

I can answer this one...
Dyrus is a pretty entertaining streamer, and a nice guy as well.
His monotone voice is relaxing/hilarious to listen to, and he doesn't rage hardcore or act like a dick and manages to be entertaining/skillful without it. (See SV/Regi)

EDIT: Also, WTF Froggen doesn't use Smartcast for ANYTHING
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
March 30 2012 20:12 GMT
#2484
On March 31 2012 05:08 Dandel Ion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 31 2012 04:57 Vallelol wrote:
On March 31 2012 04:52 WaveofShadow wrote:
Oh holy shit.
Dyrus with over 20k viewers.


and I really don't get it...

Seriously.
Not hatin', but why watch Dyrus stream the same game as everyone else on TSM and CLG?
See same game, without his "voice".

Probably because he has the best quality and also is the best player
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Vallelol
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany1046 Posts
March 30 2012 20:12 GMT
#2485
On March 31 2012 05:11 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 31 2012 05:08 Dandel Ion wrote:
On March 31 2012 04:57 Vallelol wrote:
On March 31 2012 04:52 WaveofShadow wrote:
Oh holy shit.
Dyrus with over 20k viewers.


and I really don't get it...

Seriously.
Not hatin', but why watch Dyrus stream the same game as everyone else on TSM and CLG?
See same game, without his "voice".

I can answer this one...
Dyrus is a pretty entertaining streamer, and a nice guy as well.
His monotone voice is relaxing/hilarious to listen to, and he doesn't rage hardcore or act like a dick and manages to be entertaining/skillful without it. (See SV/Regi)


relaxing for some people, it just annoys the shit out of me and is the opposite of entertaining. Streamers I really enjoy watching are Chu8, Scarra and Froggen.
Vallelol
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany1046 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-30 20:16:19
March 30 2012 20:14 GMT
#2486
On March 31 2012 05:11 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 31 2012 05:08 Dandel Ion wrote:
On March 31 2012 04:57 Vallelol wrote:
On March 31 2012 04:52 WaveofShadow wrote:
Oh holy shit.
Dyrus with over 20k viewers.


and I really don't get it...

Seriously.
Not hatin', but why watch Dyrus stream the same game as everyone else on TSM and CLG?
See same game, without his "voice".

I can answer this one...
Dyrus is a pretty entertaining streamer, and a nice guy as well.
His monotone voice is relaxing/hilarious to listen to, and he doesn't rage hardcore or act like a dick and manages to be entertaining/skillful without it. (See SV/Regi)

EDIT: Also, WTF Froggen doesn't use Smartcast for ANYTHING


Smartcast is not needed most of the time, I see more people missing their spells using smartcast than being to slow with normal cast, most shots are about angle and timing, not being fast. especially when u played dota or are still playing dota once in a while, you are just not used to it
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-30 20:20:41
March 30 2012 20:20 GMT
#2487
On March 31 2012 05:14 Vallelol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 31 2012 05:11 WaveofShadow wrote:
On March 31 2012 05:08 Dandel Ion wrote:
On March 31 2012 04:57 Vallelol wrote:
On March 31 2012 04:52 WaveofShadow wrote:
Oh holy shit.
Dyrus with over 20k viewers.


and I really don't get it...

Seriously.
Not hatin', but why watch Dyrus stream the same game as everyone else on TSM and CLG?
See same game, without his "voice".

I can answer this one...
Dyrus is a pretty entertaining streamer, and a nice guy as well.
His monotone voice is relaxing/hilarious to listen to, and he doesn't rage hardcore or act like a dick and manages to be entertaining/skillful without it. (See SV/Regi)

EDIT: Also, WTF Froggen doesn't use Smartcast for ANYTHING


Smartcast is not needed most of the time, I see more people missing their spells using smartcast than being to slow with normal cast, most shots are about angle and timing, not being fast. especially when u played dota or are still playing dota once in a while, you are just not used to it

I agree that Scarra is really entertaining as well and very knowledgeable.
As for Smartcast, while I agree it's not needed, I use it for point and click single target spells (see: Ryze). What this does is improve the ability for me to land my combos by tenths of a second, and with Ryze's low cooldowns, that makes a HUGE difference as to how many spells I can land in a fight. As far as pros not using it for skillshots and such, I can sort of understand that, but you'd think after playing the game that much and knowing so many champions so well, they'd know the legnths and times of their skillshots well enough to be able to shave off those milliseconds without worrying about missing (most of the pros do, imo).


Also Froggen just said Chalice on Aniv is great after Blue buff changes....
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Antyee
Profile Joined May 2011
Hungary1011 Posts
March 30 2012 20:21 GMT
#2488
Playing Cassio without smartcast is no fun. Her E simply needs it.
"My spoon is too big."
Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-30 20:23:05
March 30 2012 20:22 GMT
#2489
On March 31 2012 05:11 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 31 2012 05:08 Dandel Ion wrote:
On March 31 2012 04:57 Vallelol wrote:
On March 31 2012 04:52 WaveofShadow wrote:
Oh holy shit.
Dyrus with over 20k viewers.


and I really don't get it...

Seriously.
Not hatin', but why watch Dyrus stream the same game as everyone else on TSM and CLG?
See same game, without his "voice".

I can answer this one...
Dyrus is a pretty entertaining streamer, and a nice guy as well.
His monotone voice is relaxing/hilarious to listen to, and he doesn't rage hardcore or act like a dick and manages to be entertaining/skillful without it. (See SV/Regi)

EDIT: Also, WTF Froggen doesn't use Smartcast for ANYTHING

I don't think he's entertaining. I think he's boring as hell. Don't understand how he has 20k viewers half the time. Rather watch The Rain Man to be honest. Dyrus is just monotonous and dull.
God Bless
koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
9109 Posts
March 30 2012 20:22 GMT
#2490
On March 31 2012 05:08 Dandel Ion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 31 2012 04:57 Vallelol wrote:
On March 31 2012 04:52 WaveofShadow wrote:
Oh holy shit.
Dyrus with over 20k viewers.


and I really don't get it...

Seriously.
Not hatin', but why watch Dyrus stream the same game as everyone else on TSM and CLG?
See same game, without his "voice".

Maybe you want to learn how to top lane above any other roles? I was on my jungling binge I pretty much only watched SV's and TOO's streams for a couple of months.
Vallelol
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany1046 Posts
March 30 2012 20:22 GMT
#2491
On March 31 2012 05:21 Antyee wrote:
Playing Cassio without smartcast is no fun. Her E simply needs it.


yeah sure, using it on some skills with shift+hotkey is very useful, and I am not denying that at all. just talking about those people who bind all their spells on smartcast and fail with it :D
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-30 20:24:26
March 30 2012 20:24 GMT
#2492
On March 31 2012 05:21 Antyee wrote:
Playing Cassio without smartcast is no fun. Her E simply needs it.

Well there are obviously skills that benefit people unconditionally when used with smartcast. It's just anivia that has 3 skillshots that might only want to smartcast one of their spells. I wasn't aware players at high a level as froggen didn't smartcast lol.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
March 30 2012 20:25 GMT
#2493
On March 31 2012 05:22 Roffles wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 31 2012 05:11 WaveofShadow wrote:
On March 31 2012 05:08 Dandel Ion wrote:
On March 31 2012 04:57 Vallelol wrote:
On March 31 2012 04:52 WaveofShadow wrote:
Oh holy shit.
Dyrus with over 20k viewers.


and I really don't get it...

Seriously.
Not hatin', but why watch Dyrus stream the same game as everyone else on TSM and CLG?
See same game, without his "voice".

I can answer this one...
Dyrus is a pretty entertaining streamer, and a nice guy as well.
His monotone voice is relaxing/hilarious to listen to, and he doesn't rage hardcore or act like a dick and manages to be entertaining/skillful without it. (See SV/Regi)

EDIT: Also, WTF Froggen doesn't use Smartcast for ANYTHING

I don't think he's entertaining. I think he's boring as hell. Don't understand how he has 20k viewers half the time. Rather watch The Rain Man to be honest. Dyrus is just monotonous and dull.

Opinions, atleast 20k are different to yours.
Tsm so bad at teamfighting, chasing taric instead of swapping to targets that actually do damage.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
March 30 2012 20:25 GMT
#2494
On March 31 2012 05:22 koreasilver wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 31 2012 05:08 Dandel Ion wrote:
On March 31 2012 04:57 Vallelol wrote:
On March 31 2012 04:52 WaveofShadow wrote:
Oh holy shit.
Dyrus with over 20k viewers.


and I really don't get it...

Seriously.
Not hatin', but why watch Dyrus stream the same game as everyone else on TSM and CLG?
See same game, without his "voice".

Maybe you want to learn how to top lane above any other roles? I was on my jungling binge I pretty much only watched SV's and TOO's streams for a couple of months.

I meant right now, while TSM and CLGeu are scrimming.
And Wickd plays top too, but you get the CLG voicechat, which is like worlds better if you want to improve on anything.
A backwards poet writes inverse.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
March 30 2012 20:26 GMT
#2495
On March 31 2012 05:24 obesechicken13 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 31 2012 05:21 Antyee wrote:
Playing Cassio without smartcast is no fun. Her E simply needs it.

Well there are obviously skills that benefit people unconditionally when used with smartcast. It's just anivia that has 3 skillshots that might only want to smartcast one of their spells. I wasn't aware players at high a level as froggen didn't smartcast lol.


Yeah at the very least Froggen could smartcast her E. Absolutely no reason not to.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
March 30 2012 20:26 GMT
#2496
On March 31 2012 05:21 Antyee wrote:
Playing Cassio without smartcast is no fun. Her E simply needs it.

Cassio E is the only spell in the game Froggen uses smartcast for.

So he doesnt smartcast, and is the king of skill shots. Coincidence?
Off-season = best season
Vallelol
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany1046 Posts
March 30 2012 20:28 GMT
#2497
Dat Anivia Randuins
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
March 30 2012 20:28 GMT
#2498
On March 31 2012 05:24 obesechicken13 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 31 2012 05:21 Antyee wrote:
Playing Cassio without smartcast is no fun. Her E simply needs it.

Well there are obviously skills that benefit people unconditionally when used with smartcast. It's just anivia that has 3 skillshots that might only want to smartcast one of their spells. I wasn't aware players at high a level as froggen didn't smartcast lol.

Personal preference, simple as that. It's no big deal.
But on skills that demand really good targeting like Anivia/Karth wall, smartcasting is mostly not the best choice
A backwards poet writes inverse.
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
March 30 2012 20:29 GMT
#2499
New meta clg eu, tanky AD carry and AP carry and support, bruisers building damage :DD
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
March 30 2012 20:29 GMT
#2500
Godlike Froggen Anivia, whoda thunk?
A backwards poet writes inverse.
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