EPTI was browsing LOL forums and found this interesting topic. I'm pretty amaze and surprise about it. I know Starcraft is like "E-sport" of Korea but I guess Koreans are getting tired of it and trying something new.
What do you think?
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DarkRise
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I was browsing LOL forums and found this interesting topic. I'm pretty amaze and surprise about it. I know Starcraft is like "E-sport" of Korea but I guess Koreans are getting tired of it and trying something new. What do you think? | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
And it's inciting the usual amount of rage and flamebaiting. | ||
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Tictock
United States6051 Posts
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=320609 | ||
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Eishi_Ki
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MajorityofOne
Canada2506 Posts
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Kyo Yuy
United States1286 Posts
On March 14 2012 20:49 TheYango wrote: There's a thread precisely about this at the top of General Discussion. And it's inciting the usual amount of rage and flamebaiting. I find irony in the fact that a large portion of the people bashing LoL as an easy game, are SC2 fans. The same fans that BW fans bashed on because the BW fans felt that BW was being replaced by an easier game. These same fans are now bashing LoL, saying it's too easy of a game and thus it's inferior. Apparently the SC2 fans forgot the time when everyone was hating on SC2 for having auto mine, MBS, and UUS. | ||
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ToT)OjKa(
Korea (South)2437 Posts
Should be awesome. Just need a replay system and something like WAAAAGH TV or whatever the Dota 2 "drop in and spectate" thing is going to be. Gonna be a hell of a lot of sexy korean cosplayers | ||
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daemir
Finland8662 Posts
Hey guys ESPORTS IS DYING because the biggest esport in the world is F2P. And fk Chess, such an easy game, no mechanical skills needed, any monkey can pick a piece and move it on a board! | ||
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Zhiroo
Kosovo2724 Posts
On March 14 2012 21:17 ToT)OjKa( wrote: maybe this thread could be about, I dunno, LoL being the new big cheese in Korea than flaming it. Should be awesome. Just need a replay system and something like WAAAAGH TV or whatever the Dota 2 "drop in and spectate" thing is going to be. Gonna be a hell of a lot of sexy korean cosplayers True. Because outside the LoL subforum all I see is elitist bashing other games. EDIT: I'm glad this is happening,maybe soon we'll see more Korean teams competing in tournaments with NA/EU teams and that's only gonna make the scene better. | ||
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shrinkmaster
Germany947 Posts
something that lol absolutely needs to succed as an esport is a good replay system. just no way around it. and it needs such a system as soon as possible. easy to get replays allow so much extra content to be created and that is really important to compete with other games. dota 2 has an amazing spectator system and will include a replay system right from the start as far as i know. | ||
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daemir
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thezanursic
5478 Posts
On March 14 2012 21:13 Kyo Yuy wrote: I find irony in the fact that a large portion of the people bashing LoL as an easy game, are SC2 fans. The same fans that BW fans bashed on because the BW fans felt that BW was being replaced by an easier game. These same fans are now bashing LoL, saying it's too easy of a game and thus it's inferior. Apparently the SC2 fans forgot the time when everyone was hating on SC2 for having auto mine, MBS, and UUS. Skill BW>SC2>other competative games>LoL That's reallity. Even among other Mobas LoL is the easiest. I don't really care which game has a bigger viewership because LoL has the viewership that wouldn't have been watching ANY eSport if it hadn't been LoL. | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
At what point did the BW vs SC2 bashing finally stop (or at least when did the flow lessen?) I want to know how much damn longer we're going to be forced to put up with this shit crapping up our subforum, SC2 LR threads and now the rest of the site. | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On March 14 2012 21:40 WaveofShadow wrote: Must....not....post in....GD thread..... At what point did the BW vs SC2 bashing finally stop (or at least when did the flow lessen?) I want to know how much damn longer we're going to be forced to put up with this shit crapping up our subforum, SC2 LR threads and now the rest of the site. When people started getting banned for it. | ||
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Wala.Revolution
7582 Posts
Did the elephant thread get closed? | ||
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MajorityofOne
Canada2506 Posts
On March 14 2012 21:40 WaveofShadow wrote: Must....not....post in....GD thread..... At what point did the BW vs SC2 bashing finally stop (or at least when did the flow lessen?) I want to know how much damn longer we're going to be forced to put up with this shit crapping up our subforum, SC2 LR threads and now the rest of the site. It's the cost of LoL's success. People are uncertain about Starcraft's place in the future of esports...makes it REAL easy to lash out at the game that's enjoying a golden age. Stupid, but it is what it is. The hate probably will die down soon enough. | ||
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HazMat
United States17077 Posts
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Chiharu Harukaze
12112 Posts
On March 14 2012 22:09 HazMat wrote: Operation try not to get banned while defending this glorious game in the GD thread. I am trying my hardest not to laugh and sigh at the same time. I don't think half of the people on TL even knows what E-Sports even means and they mostly equate it to SC2 and literally cannot imagine a world with any other successful game. It is also immensely tempting to point out that one of the best SC2 players was a Woongjin Terran. But I shall resist. | ||
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Chrispy
Canada5878 Posts
On March 14 2012 22:09 HazMat wrote: Operation try not to get banned while defending this glorious game in the GD thread. Hahaha so true. I was going to post but it's just really not worth it... defending this game to the SCII Zealots (heh) is impossibru and a waste of breath. | ||
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Two_DoWn
United States13684 Posts
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
...what gives? | ||
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Two_DoWn
United States13684 Posts
IMO it would help if we had a full subforum like SC2 and BW do. The small community we already have keep this one of the most active, if not the most active, sections of the website. I would actually be interested to see those numbers now that I think of it. | ||
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Matsumoto
Germany493 Posts
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Bladeorade
United States1898 Posts
Bored at work. | ||
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emucxg
Finland4559 Posts
On March 15 2012 00:13 TheYango wrote: I think the one thing these threads make me realize is how many people on TL play LoL but DON'T browse the subforum. ...what gives? i sent an pm to r1ch to make a TL-LoL site like a year ago, but he seems very busy with SC already. and i think we need to TLPD, LiquiPedia for LoL =( | ||
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Sandster
United States4054 Posts
EDIT: And as much as I love starcraft, the players are obsessed with their definition of "skill". Starcraft is not a team-oriented game so those players will struggle to understand. | ||
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daemir
Finland8662 Posts
People who think LoL has no depth or is extremely simple should watch Scarra's vods about his solo q. All the nuances in his laning which he explains very well in detail just goes to show what a single lane already contains, disregarding all the teamplay aspect (solo q). | ||
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.Carnage
United States99 Posts
But then Gonna be a hell of a lot of sexy korean cosplayers Yes. I can agree with this. | ||
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Schwopzi
Netherlands954 Posts
On March 15 2012 01:26 daemir wrote: red_'s evil twin is quite hilarious in the big flame topic. Holy shit be proud of that 10% top NA ladder ~1500 elo, you gots it at pro levels mang! People who think LoL has no depth or is extremely simple should watch Scarra's vods about his solo q. All the nuances in his laning which he explains very well in detail just goes to show what a single lane already contains, disregarding all the teamplay aspect (solo q). Oh can you link to those vods please? Haven't really been following competitive lol untill the iem wc and I was thoroughly impressed by his morde play (most of the time =)). Also, on activity. I was looking at the IEM threads: the sc2 ones where daily and hit about 130-150 pages/day. The LoL thread on this subforum hit 310 pages but covered the entire event. TL has a pretty sick opportunity here to establish TL as the biggest and best esports site, not just the biggest and best starcraft site. But then you read the lol-bash threads and you just don't see it happening. Big props to tl for featuring the iem lol stream though. | ||
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Canadium
Canada171 Posts
On March 14 2012 21:37 thezanursic wrote: Skill BW>SC2>other competative games>LoL That's reallity. Even among other Mobas LoL is the easiest. I don't really care which game has a bigger viewership because LoL has the viewership that wouldn't have been watching ANY eSport if it hadn't been LoL. I don't think you should be comparing these games.... Sure mechanically LoL is less intense, but I assure it is by no means an easy game. At higher levels there are things that don't even exist in the Starcraft world (teamwork, communication, drafts, bans etc.) It's a wonderfully made game and I think everyone should give it a try. On topic: I'm psyched that the game is being popularized in Korea. If it out performs SC2 so be it.... Long live e-sports. | ||
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daemir
Finland8662 Posts
The vods speak for themselves, if Scarra could stream on own3d he'd be beating bob and oddone in viewers easily. He got up to like 4.5k the other night on twitch. His commentary is just on such a good level for explaining nearly everything he does. Plus he never ever ever rages at anything. | ||
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shrinkmaster
Germany947 Posts
On March 15 2012 01:38 Schwopzi wrote: Oh can you link to those vods please? Haven't really been following competitive lol untill the iem wc and I was thoroughly impressed by his morde play (most of the time =)). Also, on activity. I was looking at the IEM threads: the sc2 ones where daily and hit about 130-150 pages/day. The LoL thread on this subforum hit 310 pages but covered the entire event. TL has a pretty sick opportunity here to establish TL as the biggest and best esports site, not just the biggest and best starcraft site. But then you read the lol-bash threads and you just don't see it happening. Big props to tl for featuring the iem lol stream though. Exactly what i was thinking. But i don't think that this will happen. Look at the posters in the gd thread. Quite a few veteran posters siding with the mindless trolls and talking bad about lol. If this respected posters can't even refrain from bashing lol, why should the typical 10-post guy keep his opinion to himself. | ||
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unichan
United States4223 Posts
the biggest problem with LoL is that lane/jungle composition is so static atm | ||
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daemir
Finland8662 Posts
To be honest, SC2 is hard and I enjoy playing games with a certain degree of sophistication and beauty rather than easy, rather trashy games (like LoL) owned by money hungry corporations. When you have to pay for extra items the competitive communal nature of the game disappears and it turns into an e-casino or something along those lines. of all the uninformed idiots posting, this just gotta take the cake. Billy knows how it is, the team with most skins win, therefor the people who pay most, always win! | ||
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SeaSwift
Scotland4486 Posts
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Juicyfruit
Canada5484 Posts
On March 14 2012 23:52 Two_DoWn wrote: Im just sad. I wanted someone to take up my challenge. I wasnt even gonna go for Loci and Ruru. Dude, I'm sure someone did, but I'm debating whether it's worth going back to dig it up as they're basically asking for a year's worth of prep time. | ||
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Two_DoWn
United States13684 Posts
On March 15 2012 02:41 Juicyfruit wrote: Dude, I'm sure someone did, but I'm debating whether it's worth going back to dig it up. He wanted a year. WTF am I supposed to do for a year? | ||
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Cr4zyH0r5e
Peru1308 Posts
On March 15 2012 02:04 unichan wrote: well i mean posting that LoL is upstaging sc2 in a sc2 forum is just not a good idea the biggest problem with LoL is that lane/jungle composition is so static atm When did this become a sc2 forum? If anything, I think the discussion in the general section should be about why is lol more popular than sc2 and the effects of the doings of each company i.e. blizz/riot. as far as the lol subforum goes. This thread is for us to celebrate the growth of lol in the nation that developed the idea of e-sports. LoL is much more relaxing to play anyway, and nothing beats playing 5s with friends and pulling stunts like double jungle annie/olaf. If the competitive scene is growing, tant mieux. | ||
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BlitzerSC
Italy8800 Posts
On March 14 2012 21:17 ToT)OjKa( wrote: maybe this thread could be about, I dunno, LoL being the new big cheese in Korea than flaming it. Should be awesome. Just need a replay system and something like WAAAAGH TV or whatever the Dota 2 "drop in and spectate" thing is going to be. Gonna be a hell of a lot of sexy korean cosplayers mmmm ahri mmmm.... | ||
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JBright
Vancouver14381 Posts
On March 15 2012 02:41 SeaSwift wrote: I'm not up to date with LoL - do you have to pay for new characters? All new champs can still be bought with IP (although they're all 6300 now). Paying just helps you get them quicker. | ||
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iCanada
Canada10660 Posts
On March 15 2012 02:41 SeaSwift wrote: I'm not up to date with LoL - do you have to pay for new characters? You can if you like, however it is possible to acquire all the same things just by playing the game normally. All spending real life money does is allow you to have a different skin to make you feel special. <3 feeling special. | ||
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Sponge75
England194 Posts
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Two_DoWn
United States13684 Posts
Where's that pic again? So gud. | ||
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clickrush
Switzerland3257 Posts
found by google... http://fashionablygeek.com/costumes/lovely-ahri-cosplay/ i don't vouch for the site though. Dunno what it's content is. | ||
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nojitosunrise
United States6188 Posts
No matter how much some starcraft people hate us....they need us to survive. | ||
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Talack
Canada2742 Posts
In BW there is just soo much that you can be good at where in LoL all the mechanics are learned incredibly fast and have a low skill cap. It'll be interesting to see if the game evolves at all in the next couple years. | ||
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vasculaR
Malaysia791 Posts
On March 15 2012 03:48 Talack wrote: I wonder if there is enough of a skill-ceiling in LoL to really capture the korean players though. In BW there is just soo much that you can be good at where in LoL all the mechanics are learned incredibly fast and have a low skill cap. It'll be interesting to see if the game evolves at all in the next couple years. Well I feel LoL is easier compared to the other games. Mechanically at least. However, DotA changed a lot in its gameplay over the many years. I believe LoL will stay on the radar for a while as long as Riot keeps up with patches and tweaking numbers (Like blue buff is quite OP atm). It will keep the game fresh and teams trying different strategies to shift the metagame. | ||
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nojitosunrise
United States6188 Posts
On March 15 2012 03:48 Talack wrote: I wonder if there is enough of a skill-ceiling in LoL to really capture the korean players though. In BW there is just soo much that you can be good at where in LoL all the mechanics are learned incredibly fast and have a low skill cap. It'll be interesting to see if the game evolves at all in the next couple years. There's no such thing as a skill ceiling for multiplayer games. You don't need to be the "best" or "perfect" in skill....you just need to be better than your opponents. | ||
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IGotPlayguuu
Italy660 Posts
I wish riot make the graphics less shiny and more understandable | ||
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Hesmyrr
Canada5776 Posts
The original Korean article starts out with "'League of Legend' by opening official and regular e-sports tournament challenges for the 1st spot on game market. Including strong support from the TV game channels, there is an increasing outlook that the future of the national e-sport growth lies in 'League of Legend' instead of 'Starcraft 2'". Kotaku converts it into "League of Legends (LoL) has made its way to the top spot in e-sports tournaments, replacing StarCraft II." Another random guy decides to call it "LoL takes #1 E-sport spot in Korea".  Honestly the link isn't saying anything new except what we already knew (Starcraft 2 is failing at Korea, OGN has hosted regular LoL tournament and is starting to push for it hard), so what the article does is just to provide an opinionated piece - but stating the obvious? - where everyone can fight over. While I understand that wanting the game you like to succeed, amount of conflict going over there is really bad... Ah well, I remember people often saying SC3 will do the same thing to what SC2 eventually did to BW, and I'm actually glad LoL made this scenario occur much faster by taking the formers place.  Sweet sweet justice.Also please do not let the cacophony over there give you misimpression about our community in general, we Brood war community generally show more restraint (such as in this thread, and here if you ignore random new users) and that thread only highlights the difference. | ||
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Sandster
United States4054 Posts
On March 15 2012 04:16 Hesmyrr wrote: Also please do not let the cacophony over there give you misimpression about our community in general, we Brood war community generally show more restraint (such as in this thread) and that thread only highlights the difference. That was what the community was like when I kept coming to read up on TL, and part of why I grew to like BW so much. Glad to see some people like that are still around. | ||
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shrinkmaster
Germany947 Posts
too bad that it became a huge flame fest. normally the tl.net moderators do an exceptional job keeping flaming and bashing to a minimum, but i can't stop thinking that some have a blind spot when the flaming occurs against lol. how else can you explain that a post like this doesn't even get a warning: On March 15 2012 01:08 red_b wrote: the amount of butthurt from LoL players is fantastic. the game is easy and the people who play it are garbage. ... | ||
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Hesmyrr
Canada5776 Posts
On March 15 2012 04:30 shrinkmaster wrote: how else can you explain that a post like this doesn't even get a warning: He did. | ||
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wussleeQ
United States3130 Posts
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mitschi
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Cause i thought that the OGN tournament with CLG was supposed to have a 200k prizepool. | ||
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HazMat
United States17077 Posts
I do think the evil fake red_ should be at least week banned. | ||
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Two_DoWn
United States13684 Posts
On March 15 2012 04:38 mitschi wrote: So...is the 1.8million$ tourney the one CLG and Fnatic will be participating in or another newly announced one? Cause i thought that the OGN tournament with CLG was supposed to have a 200k prizepool. Its that one. Kotaku fucked up the exchange. | ||
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shrinkmaster
Germany947 Posts
Hm, must have missed it then. Thought i checked before writing my post. Sorry. | ||
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Sandster
United States4054 Posts
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Caphe
Vietnam10817 Posts
Firstly, Its an online F2P game which is very popular in Korea. Secondly, It requires skills to be good at pro level. If you watch some Koreans LoL matches you may have noticed that some of the players ultilize their champions much more than Western progamers. | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On March 15 2012 04:39 HazMat wrote: Little birdie with double the downs has told me that Neo is going through that thread and cleaning it up <3 I do think the evil fake red_ should be at least week banned. Has he been banned previously? I remember he's had a track record of flamebaiting LoL players in both this subforum and in others. | ||
NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
So I just spent a good 40 minutes reading the shitstorm of a thread in TL General about our fair game and needless to say, it's a train wreck. It's amazing how biased gamers can be, especially on a site like TeamLiquid. I do request all our subforum regulars avoid replying to the thread if possible, a lot of it is just baseless flamebait. Moon and I will be working on an editorial this weekend (jokingly named "The Uglier Elephant in the Room" atm) to 1) debunk all the LoL myths that we can think of (e.g. LoL viewership counter) and 2) a subjective part to highlight the positives about our game ("we aren't saying LoL is the best, but there are things we're doing right. Other developers/games would benefit from our example") Moderation in the TL General thread I can do. Terribad posters like red_b will be warned. I know he is deeply biased against LoL but that doesn't warrant a ban just quite yet. Anything else, feel free to PM me. Thick skins, guys. Thick skin... | ||
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daemir
Finland8662 Posts
The amount of bashing he has done in several posts in that topic should at least be a temp ban, I don't really follow why the banlings haven't taken heavier stance in that topic. See the odd warning there and some guy who just posted fffffffffuuuuuuuuuu got a temp ban :\ edit: ninjaneo post | ||
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BlackPaladin
United States9316 Posts
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NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
On March 15 2012 04:54 daemir wrote: The amount of bashing he has done in several posts in that topic should at least be a temp ban, I don't really follow why the banlings haven't taken heavier stance in that topic. See the odd warning there and some guy who just posted fffffffffuuuuuuuuuu got a temp ban :\ edit: ninjaneo post It's not a heavier stance I can take it. As a representative of the site, I can't appear biased for LoL just because I play the game. It's a matter of professionalism (on my end), even if other users are not. But don't worry, I'll keep an eye on red_b. | ||
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daemir
Finland8662 Posts
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Two_DoWn
United States13684 Posts
On March 15 2012 04:58 NeoIllusions wrote: It's not a heavier stance I can take it. As a representative of the site, I can't appear biased for LoL just because I play the game. It's a matter of professionalism (on my end), even if other users are not. But don't worry, I'll keep an eye on red_b. I think its mostly we want the same standard to be held for SC2:LoL that was held for SC2:BW. That shit meant automatic bans if those fights happened between the 2 starcrafts. With lol? Staff members and Icons take part in the bashing. | ||
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NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
It's really a matter of precedence, which I'm hoping to establish for TL with the editorial this weekend. | ||
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Kickboxer
Slovenia1308 Posts
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Hesmyrr
Canada5776 Posts
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Two_DoWn
United States13684 Posts
All it would take is for the mods to actually step up, make it clear that bullshit wont be allowed, and then show that the space can be shared. You're telling me that having a recap of the lol tournement after IEM on the front page next to the SC2 one is destroying the SC2 tournament scene? | ||
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shrinkmaster
Germany947 Posts
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emucxg
Finland4559 Posts
On March 15 2012 04:52 NeoIllusions wrote: Afternoon gents, So I just spent a good 40 minutes reading the shitstorm of a thread in TL General about our fair game and needless to say, it's a train wreck. It's amazing how biased gamers can be, especially on a site like TeamLiquid. I do request all our subforum regulars avoid replying to the thread if possible, a lot of it is just baseless flamebait. Moon and I will be working on an editorial this weekend (jokingly named "The Uglier Elephant in the Room" atm) to 1) debunk all the LoL myths that we can think of (e.g. LoL viewership counter) and 2) a subjective part to highlight the positives about our game ("we aren't saying LoL is the best, but there are things we're doing right. Other developers/games would benefit from our example") Moderation in the TL General thread I can do. Terribad posters like red_b will be warned. I know he is deeply biased against LoL but that doesn't warrant a ban just quite yet. Anything else, feel free to PM me. Thick skins, guys. Thick skin... Neo saved the world again! | ||
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nojitosunrise
United States6188 Posts
On March 15 2012 05:09 Two_DoWn wrote: TL has the opportunity to expand their membership exponentially. It doesnt even require changing the site in any meanigful way. All it would take is for the mods to actually step up, make it clear that bullshit wont be allowed, and then show that the space can be shared. You're telling me that having a recap of the lol tournement after IEM on the front page next to the SC2 one is destroying the SC2 tournament scene? If TL accepted LoL with open arms....a shit storm of massive proportions will erupt. Just look at what happened in one thread. TL is too entrenched with Starcraft and unfortunately, I think the SC2 (and even DOTA2) elitists outnumber the open minded individuals (such as the BW community) I would love to see a TL.LoL, but I doubt it will come into fruition anytime soon. | ||
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jpak
United States5045 Posts
On March 15 2012 05:19 nojitosunrise wrote: If TL accepted LoL with open arms....a shit storm of massive proportions will erupt. Just look at what happened in one thread. TL is too entrenched with Starcraft and unfortunately, I think the SC2 (and even DOTA2) elitists outnumber the open minded individuals (such as the BW community) I would love to see a TL.LoL, but I doubt it will come into fruition anytime soon. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!! + Show Spoiler + JK JK. We're not elitists. We just love BW. | ||
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TheToast
United States4808 Posts
On March 15 2012 05:02 NeoIllusions wrote: heyoka says we're not at that point yet (SC2:LoL :: SC2:BW). I have brought it to his attention though. It's really a matter of precedence, which I'm hoping to establish for TL with the editorial this weekend. How long until someone necro's that "remove LoL/Dota streams" thread in website feedback? I like the idea of TL branching out and encompassing other games. I'm no LoL fan (and if I started playing a game like this it would probably be Dota2) but the fact is most people on TL play more than just BW/SC2. Why shouldn't there be subcommunities? (as long as SC remains the main focus). I'll be interested to see what you guys have to say about it.  On March 15 2012 04:52 NeoIllusions wrote: [/i](jokingly named "The Uglier Elephant in the Room" atm) That's not funny. That thread finally died thank goodness, let's not temp the SC2 General people to necro it. | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On March 15 2012 05:27 TheToast wrote: How long until someone necro's that "remove LoL/Dota streams" thread in website feedback? I like the idea of TL branching out and encompassing other games. I'm no LoL fan (and if I started playing a game like this it would probably be Dota2) but the fact is most people on TL play more than just BW/SC2. Why shouldn't there be subcommunities? (as long as SC remains the main focus). I'll be interested to see what you guys have to say about it. I didn't even know such a thread existed. God that just SOUNDS like a moderation nightmare. | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
Either way yeah, it really pains me to see so many uninformed "opinions" about the game and calling for doomsday and end of esports and whatnot... I don't get it either, I love watching SC2, SCBW, WC3, LoL, DotA2, HoN and I really don't understand the competition thingy either. It's not like there can only be a single game at an event. If SC2, LoL and DotA2 all become huge, for instance, the MLGs and such are just going to become bigger themselves, and in turn draw a lot more people there, which in turn is going to expose more people to SC2. I'm looking forward to seeing the "LoL rebute" thread, especially the "embedded streams in client inflating viewer numbers" myth is extremely annoying. My personal suggestion for moderation guidelines would be to make unfounded aggression towards a game like "LoL is a shit game!" or "SC2 is a stupid boring game no one likes" bannable, but if you have good arguments I think that that's still good and appropriate discussion as long as it's in the proper threads(As in I really hope we don't see a SC vs LoL argument in a OGN LoL tournament live report thread) | ||
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TheToast
United States4808 Posts
On March 15 2012 05:37 TheYango wrote: I didn't even know such a thread existed. God that just SOUNDS like a moderation nightmare. It's here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=318749 | ||
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nojitosunrise
United States6188 Posts
On March 15 2012 05:27 jpak wrote: HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!! + Show Spoiler + JK JK. We're not elitists. We just love BW. Ya as do I! I enjoyed participating in the kim carrier thread and the OGN thread. I would say that the BW section is much more open minded when compared to the rest of TL. (in terms of LoL) | ||
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iCanada
Canada10660 Posts
On March 15 2012 05:43 nojitosunrise wrote: Ya as do I! I enjoyed participating in the kim carrier thread and the OGN thread. I would say that the BW section is much more open minded when compared to the rest of TL. (in terms of LoL) Probably because the LoL crew isn't trying to kill Broodwar. | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
Neo, I look forward to your post on the weekend, but sadly this shitstorm may take a while to die down simply because of the dissimilarity between SC2/BW to LoL. I am well aware of the SC2 vs BW = SC2 vs LoL argument, but even in the face of obvious truths people are shutting it down because of how entrenched SC and Blizzard are in their minds and in this community. There has never before been ANYTHING this popular made by a company other than Blizzard before, at least not on a worldwide stage level. People simply cannot get around the fact that something could be better...well, not better, but different yet still fun that is not in some way related to the Holy SC. Not only that, but these p[eople who are ignorantly abusing us and our game in the majority will refuse to understand us by prinicple alone and so the myths of it being 'easier' will never be debunked in their minds. They see it as an easier DotA and nothing more, and since they will never try it themselves, they never will. The hipsters and fanatics will have their way for quite a while I think and I truly worry about how segregationalist TL.net will get over this issue before it is shut down or some drastic change is made that forever changes the face of TL SC as we know it. + Show Spoiler + Edit: Probably because the LoL crew isn't trying to kill Broodwar. You can't kill something that is already dead! lololol + Show Spoiler + J/K, <3 BW and always will. | ||
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Cedstick
Canada3336 Posts
On March 15 2012 05:19 nojitosunrise wrote: open minded individuals (such as the BW community) El-oh-fuckin'-el. How long have you been reading Team Liquid, friend? Thank you, man. Thanks. Nothin' like starting a day with a hearty laugh. | ||
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mr_tolkien
France8631 Posts
On March 15 2012 05:33 Barrin wrote: Have you ever played tic-tac-toe? More complexity (either depth or breadth) = broader and higher skill "ceilings" (almost all skill ceilings are soft). Sad to see even mods go trolling in the GD thread... | ||
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nojitosunrise
United States6188 Posts
On March 15 2012 06:05 Cedstick wrote: El-oh-fuckin'-el. How long have you been reading Team Liquid, friend? Thank you, man. Thanks. Nothin' like starting a day with a hearty laugh. The two LoL threads in the BW forum are like cupcakes when compared to the LoL threads elsewhere on TL. | ||
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mr_tolkien
France8631 Posts
On March 15 2012 06:11 nojitosunrise wrote: The two LoL threads in the BW forum are like cupcakes when compared to the LoL threads elsewhere on TL. You must have missed the SC2 threads there then :p | ||
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Matsumoto
Germany493 Posts
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NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
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JBright
Vancouver14381 Posts
On March 15 2012 07:33 Matsumoto wrote: i was just wondering did any TL official ever talk about the possibility of Teamliquid recruiting a team for another game like LoL or Dota or will TL stay Starcraft only? I believe Nazgul briefly touched on this on The Executives today. iirc, he said that there's a higher chance of TL picking up a Dota2 or LoL team than something like CS because there are sizable fanbases for both games on TL. But the likelihood it happening is still quite low because this is still primarily a SC community. I could be slightly off so you'll have to watch the VOD | ||
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imre
France9263 Posts
On March 15 2012 06:05 Cedstick wrote: El-oh-fuckin'-el. How long have you been reading Team Liquid, friend? Thank you, man. Thanks. Nothin' like starting a day with a hearty laugh. Well compared to the sc2 mobs bw fans are mostly open-minded. | ||
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jpak
United States5045 Posts
On March 15 2012 06:40 mr_tolkien wrote: You must have missed the SC2 threads there then :p That's because nearly everyone was sorely disappointed that SC2 failed to truly succeed BW, at least for the BW fans, and lashed out that it wasn't. But believe me when I say a vast majority of BW fans have either tried SC2 extensively or still follow both games. LoL, on the other hand, didn't carry that overwhelming expectation, and they found it to be a fun game to play as well. | ||
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Imbu
United States903 Posts
On March 15 2012 07:45 JBright wrote: I believe Nazgul briefly touched on this on The Executives today. iirc, he said that there's a higher chance of TL picking up a Dota2 or LoL team than something like CS because there are sizable fanbases for both games on TL. But the likelihood it happening is still quite low because this is still primarily a SC community. I could be slightly off so you'll have to watch the VOD This is a pretty good representation of what Nazgul said during the podcast. The discussion came up about the pros and cons of professional teams having multiple games under a single brand if anyone was wondering (ie. dignatas vs TL) | ||
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HazMat
United States17077 Posts
MY SKIN ISN'T THICK ENOUGH FOR THIS. | ||
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snowbird
Germany2044 Posts
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Ryuu314
United States12679 Posts
The amount of flamebaiting and misinformation in that thread has caused me to type up a response and erase it at least 3 times already for fear of getting warned/banned. | ||
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PhiliBiRD
United States2643 Posts
On March 14 2012 21:19 daemir wrote: Fuck sake I'm like willling to give up on the rest of TL because it only makes me mad how dumb and hateful people get when their favorite game is not #1 everything. Like 7y old sandbox fights. I really wish the banlings would start giving people time outs for baseless bashing like that. God. Hey guys ESPORTS IS DYING because the biggest esport in the world is F2P. And fk Chess, such an easy game, no mechanical skills needed, any monkey can pick a piece and move it on a board! agreed, we need to drop the focus on "korea"... but ive been saying that since beta | ||
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anmolsinghmzn2009
India1783 Posts
On March 15 2012 04:22 Sandster wrote: That was what the community was like when I kept coming to read up on TL, and part of why I grew to like BW so much. Glad to see some people like that are still around. The quality of the forums has just declined so drastically. We need a purge! | ||
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mr_tolkien
France8631 Posts
On March 15 2012 13:50 MorroW wrote: games like sc2 are much more fun to watch, more balanced and takes a much higher skill to play After the mods trolling, here comes the pros \o/ If this phrase is not complete flaming, I don't know what it is. | ||
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NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On March 15 2012 17:21 mr_tolkien wrote: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=320609¤tpage=66#1318 After the mods trolling, here comes the pros \o/ If this phrase is not complete flaming, I don't know what it is. Morrow's response was fairly level-headed. He stated his opinion, but also that he wasn't in a position to judge either. He also said that overall it might be a good thing for esports and that SC2 players shouldn't worry too much about it. Dunno why you're picking on his response. EDIT: Oh, it looks like he edited what he wrote. Meh. | ||
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Apex
United States7227 Posts
You just know what's going to happen, in this case (massive flaming/flamebaiting/trolling/etc.) | ||
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Rorance
Canada41 Posts
On March 15 2012 18:43 Apex wrote: I'm just avoiding that thread like the plague. It's just like politics, never worth the post/view. You just know what's going to happen, in this case (massive flaming/flamebaiting/trolling/etc.) Yeah, sadly I don't have power of my own thread, I would smash every flamer/flamebaiter/troll from posting | ||
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