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Online Qualifier Bracket
Fts
Profile Joined March 2010
Sweden369 Posts
February 25 2012 21:31 GMT
#261
damn, missed that baron fight due to a lagspike
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17282 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-25 21:33:01
February 25 2012 21:32 GMT
#262
On February 26 2012 06:30 qualla wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2012 06:28 Slayer91 wrote:
Probably not hard to juke people on 200+ ping, just saying


Exactly this... That was where you actually could see how bad ping issues must be for M5! They all kept running to where Irelia was before she dashed for like 0.3-0.4 seconds.

200 ms = .2 seconds. Normal latency is ~80ms (.08), so they have about .12 seconds more delay. If they're missing by .3-.4 seconds it has nothing to do with their ping.
twitch.tv/cratonz
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
February 25 2012 21:33 GMT
#263
200 ping feels HUGE when I have to play with it. Especally in udyr who relies so much on autohitting and moving after.
Chiharu Harukaze
Profile Joined September 2011
12112 Posts
February 25 2012 21:33 GMT
#264
Mono E-Sports 3v5 and take mid inhib. Huh.

So I suppose their win over TSM in IPL Killing Spree was legit.
It's like, "Is the Federation's Mobile Suit some kind of monster?"
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17282 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-25 21:36:27
February 25 2012 21:34 GMT
#265
On February 26 2012 06:33 Slayer91 wrote:
200 ping feels HUGE when I have to play with it. Especally in udyr who relies so much on autohitting and moving after.

It has an effect, sure, but when they're missing by the margin stated earlier then it's not because of the ping since its 3x higher.

There may have been one case where Irelia lived due to ping, but overall the latency didn't have an effect on the outcome.

M5 out 0-2 vs 24th seed. Dan finding a way to plug Lynsanity.

Audio is like a full half second in front of the video =/.
twitch.tv/cratonz
qualla
Profile Joined August 2009
Germany13 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-25 21:38:58
February 25 2012 21:36 GMT
#266
On February 26 2012 06:32 Craton wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2012 06:30 qualla wrote:
On February 26 2012 06:28 Slayer91 wrote:
Probably not hard to juke people on 200+ ping, just saying


Exactly this... That was where you actually could see how bad ping issues must be for M5! They all kept running to where Irelia was before she dashed for like 0.3-0.4 seconds.

200 ms = .2 seconds. Normal latency is ~80ms (.08), so they have about .12 seconds more delay. If they're missing by .3-.4 seconds it has nothing to do with their ping.


reaction time has to be included as well but you're probably right that it was a little less. Still way more than it would have taken me, that i am not any good in reacting fast, to react!

Still gg from monoesports!
Just a little sad for M5 and other european teams, that they are at a clear disadvantage as long as they don't travel to America for a qualifier!
pikaaarrr :3
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States593 Posts
February 25 2012 21:36 GMT
#267
oh my god hatperson is so obnoxious....i like excitement but the yelling is really pissing me off
Chiharu Harukaze
Profile Joined September 2011
12112 Posts
February 25 2012 21:36 GMT
#268
Now see? The Caster going mad at the end of the game? I like that enthusiasm. But I want him to be like that in the middle of the game in exciting periods.

That ace at bot lane? He sounded kinda unimpressed at the time. That's when I want to hear him going nuts.
It's like, "Is the Federation's Mobile Suit some kind of monster?"
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-25 21:37:35
February 25 2012 21:37 GMT
#269
On February 26 2012 06:32 Craton wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2012 06:30 qualla wrote:
On February 26 2012 06:28 Slayer91 wrote:
Probably not hard to juke people on 200+ ping, just saying


Exactly this... That was where you actually could see how bad ping issues must be for M5! They all kept running to where Irelia was before she dashed for like 0.3-0.4 seconds.

200 ms = .2 seconds. Normal latency is ~80ms (.08), so they have about .12 seconds more delay. If they're missing by .3-.4 seconds it has nothing to do with their ping.

Also they play from Russia, their ping should be even worse than for the Western Europeans.
0,3-0,4 sec sounds reasonable.

In any case this qualifier showed that cross server tournaments make no sense.

Because of this I also didnt like how the commentator was cheering so much just when the biggest flaw of their tournament was highlighted even more.
Off-season = best season
greatZERG
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia755 Posts
February 25 2012 21:38 GMT
#270
On February 26 2012 06:36 Chiharu Harukaze wrote:
Now see? The Caster going mad at the end of the game? I like that enthusiasm. But I want him to be like that in the middle of the game in exciting periods.

That ace at bot lane? He sounded kinda unimpressed at the time. That's when I want to hear him going nuts.


The screaming was horrible, they either need to fix the mic levels or have him talk more rather than just make garbled noises into the mic. Enthusiasm is fine but I'd prefer commentary to bodily noises
stu >)
Steelavocado
Profile Joined May 2010
United States2123 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-25 21:48:44
February 25 2012 21:38 GMT
#271
GO mono yay!!!!!

My only concern with LoL is that each BO3 can take 3 hours =(
MIRACLE IS YOUR TI7 CHAMP
Woony
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany6657 Posts
February 25 2012 21:40 GMT
#272
On February 26 2012 06:37 Redox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2012 06:32 Craton wrote:
On February 26 2012 06:30 qualla wrote:
On February 26 2012 06:28 Slayer91 wrote:
Probably not hard to juke people on 200+ ping, just saying


Exactly this... That was where you actually could see how bad ping issues must be for M5! They all kept running to where Irelia was before she dashed for like 0.3-0.4 seconds.

200 ms = .2 seconds. Normal latency is ~80ms (.08), so they have about .12 seconds more delay. If they're missing by .3-.4 seconds it has nothing to do with their ping.

Also they play from Russia, their ping should be even worse than for the Western Europeans.
0,3-0,4 sec sounds reasonable.

In any case this qualifier showed that cross server tournaments make no sense.

Because of this I also didnt like how the commentator was cheering so much just when the biggest flaw of their tournament was highlighted even more.


IMO they either need to make it fair (ie. one game on US, one EU) or not allow EU teams at all.
Chiharu Harukaze
Profile Joined September 2011
12112 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-25 21:41:07
February 25 2012 21:40 GMT
#273
On February 26 2012 06:38 greatZERG wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2012 06:36 Chiharu Harukaze wrote:
Now see? The Caster going mad at the end of the game? I like that enthusiasm. But I want him to be like that in the middle of the game in exciting periods.

That ace at bot lane? He sounded kinda unimpressed at the time. That's when I want to hear him going nuts.


The screaming was horrible, they either need to fix the mic levels or have him talk more rather than just make garbled noises into the mic. Enthusiasm is fine but I'd prefer commentary to bodily noises

Mmm. Yes. Screaming into the mic isn't great. But his heart was in the right place and LoL Commentators tend to be very dry which I think needs to be improved upon.

Also, did IPL kill their stream? I heard Hatperson mention there was another game coming...?
It's like, "Is the Federation's Mobile Suit some kind of monster?"
Synche
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1345 Posts
February 25 2012 21:41 GMT
#274
On February 26 2012 06:36 Chiharu Harukaze wrote:
Now see? The Caster going mad at the end of the game? I like that enthusiasm. But I want him to be like that in the middle of the game in exciting periods.

That ace at bot lane? He sounded kinda unimpressed at the time. That's when I want to hear him going nuts.


You're the 2%

No doubt if you liked that garish hoarse screaming. Had to mute my volume it was so loud.
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17282 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-25 21:42:55
February 25 2012 21:41 GMT
#275
On February 26 2012 06:40 Woony wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2012 06:37 Redox wrote:
On February 26 2012 06:32 Craton wrote:
On February 26 2012 06:30 qualla wrote:
On February 26 2012 06:28 Slayer91 wrote:
Probably not hard to juke people on 200+ ping, just saying


Exactly this... That was where you actually could see how bad ping issues must be for M5! They all kept running to where Irelia was before she dashed for like 0.3-0.4 seconds.

200 ms = .2 seconds. Normal latency is ~80ms (.08), so they have about .12 seconds more delay. If they're missing by .3-.4 seconds it has nothing to do with their ping.

Also they play from Russia, their ping should be even worse than for the Western Europeans.
0,3-0,4 sec sounds reasonable.

In any case this qualifier showed that cross server tournaments make no sense.

Because of this I also didnt like how the commentator was cheering so much just when the biggest flaw of their tournament was highlighted even more.


IMO they either need to make it fair (ie. one game on US, one EU) or not allow EU teams at all.

The ping difference is generally less for eu to na than the reverse for whatever reason. It would also add a lot of logistical difficulty (read: delays between games), since there's a different client for each region (iirc) and you'd need to switch back and forth 2-3 times.
twitch.tv/cratonz
Chiharu Harukaze
Profile Joined September 2011
12112 Posts
February 25 2012 21:42 GMT
#276
On February 26 2012 06:41 SimDawg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2012 06:36 Chiharu Harukaze wrote:
Now see? The Caster going mad at the end of the game? I like that enthusiasm. But I want him to be like that in the middle of the game in exciting periods.

That ace at bot lane? He sounded kinda unimpressed at the time. That's when I want to hear him going nuts.


You're the 2%

No doubt if you liked that garish hoarse screaming. Had to mute my volume it was so loud.

Nono. The screaming wasn't great. The enthusiasm was good though. It's the enthusiasm and genuine engagement is what I believe casters need more of.
It's like, "Is the Federation's Mobile Suit some kind of monster?"
Slow Motion
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6960 Posts
February 25 2012 21:42 GMT
#277
On February 26 2012 06:37 Redox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2012 06:32 Craton wrote:
On February 26 2012 06:30 qualla wrote:
On February 26 2012 06:28 Slayer91 wrote:
Probably not hard to juke people on 200+ ping, just saying


Exactly this... That was where you actually could see how bad ping issues must be for M5! They all kept running to where Irelia was before she dashed for like 0.3-0.4 seconds.

200 ms = .2 seconds. Normal latency is ~80ms (.08), so they have about .12 seconds more delay. If they're missing by .3-.4 seconds it has nothing to do with their ping.

Also they play from Russia, their ping should be even worse than for the Western Europeans.
0,3-0,4 sec sounds reasonable.

In any case this qualifier showed that cross server tournaments make no sense.

Because of this I also didnt like how the commentator was cheering so much just when the biggest flaw of their tournament was highlighted even more.

Well the alternative to the cross-server tourneys are no tourneys. They can't afford to always set up a live event for qualifiers and players can't afford to fly around so much or stay in a foreign country for so long.
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
February 25 2012 21:42 GMT
#278
On February 26 2012 06:40 Woony wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2012 06:37 Redox wrote:
On February 26 2012 06:32 Craton wrote:
On February 26 2012 06:30 qualla wrote:
On February 26 2012 06:28 Slayer91 wrote:
Probably not hard to juke people on 200+ ping, just saying


Exactly this... That was where you actually could see how bad ping issues must be for M5! They all kept running to where Irelia was before she dashed for like 0.3-0.4 seconds.

200 ms = .2 seconds. Normal latency is ~80ms (.08), so they have about .12 seconds more delay. If they're missing by .3-.4 seconds it has nothing to do with their ping.

Also they play from Russia, their ping should be even worse than for the Western Europeans.
0,3-0,4 sec sounds reasonable.

In any case this qualifier showed that cross server tournaments make no sense.

Because of this I also didnt like how the commentator was cheering so much just when the biggest flaw of their tournament was highlighted even more.


IMO they either need to make it fair (ie. one game on US, one EU) or not allow EU teams at all.

Well I am pretty sure aaa is happy that there were qualifiers at all, even at these conditions.
But only one European team at IPL4 will be sad, and can not be in the interest of the tournament.
Off-season = best season
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17282 Posts
February 25 2012 21:43 GMT
#279
I think if anything they could just alternate the qualifiers between NA and EU servers so that they're always consistent in a single series. It is an NA tournament, though.
twitch.tv/cratonz
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
February 25 2012 21:44 GMT
#280
On February 26 2012 06:41 Craton wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2012 06:40 Woony wrote:
On February 26 2012 06:37 Redox wrote:
On February 26 2012 06:32 Craton wrote:
On February 26 2012 06:30 qualla wrote:
On February 26 2012 06:28 Slayer91 wrote:
Probably not hard to juke people on 200+ ping, just saying


Exactly this... That was where you actually could see how bad ping issues must be for M5! They all kept running to where Irelia was before she dashed for like 0.3-0.4 seconds.

200 ms = .2 seconds. Normal latency is ~80ms (.08), so they have about .12 seconds more delay. If they're missing by .3-.4 seconds it has nothing to do with their ping.

Also they play from Russia, their ping should be even worse than for the Western Europeans.
0,3-0,4 sec sounds reasonable.

In any case this qualifier showed that cross server tournaments make no sense.

Because of this I also didnt like how the commentator was cheering so much just when the biggest flaw of their tournament was highlighted even more.


IMO they either need to make it fair (ie. one game on US, one EU) or not allow EU teams at all.

The ping difference is generally less for eu to na than the reverse for whatever reason. It would also add a lot of logistical difficulty (read: delays between games), since there's a different client for each region (iirc) and you'd need to switch back and forth 2-3 times.

All depends on where you are in NA. From the west coast (like clg.na) you have about 0.2 I think, from east coast (like tsm) it is pretty good.
Which is why tsm is playing on eu now so often. it doesnt really make a difference for them.
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