EPTWriggle's -> Phage -> Zeal -> Frozen Mallet -> Atma's -> PD -> whatever
Some will say Triforce if I'm going Phage Zeal but I don't like it on Graves, you've got no spammable spell to proc it.
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Alzadar
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Wriggle's -> Phage -> Zeal -> Frozen Mallet -> Atma's -> PD -> whatever Some will say Triforce if I'm going Phage Zeal but I don't like it on Graves, you've got no spammable spell to proc it. | ||
NeoIllusions
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Vayne, Graves, Cait (prob in that order too imoimo). All stronk at trading, helping ganks, escaping ganks. Sivir is also good at just afk farming and pushing top lane to tower. She'll excel against the bruisers who suck at farming at tower. | ||
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Requizen
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My friends and I were talking about Mages, and which ones were "best" throughout the game. We kind of came to the conclusion that bursty mages (Brand, Xerath, etc) kind of top out around the mid-game, but aren't threatening at all later on. On the other hand, sustained mages (Swain, Cass, Ryze) start out a bit weaker, but become monsters in the late game. Which would you rather have on your team and why? Obviously whichever one is played better by your teammate, but all things taken equally, what are your thoughts? | ||
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sob3k
United States7572 Posts
On February 14 2012 11:41 Requizen wrote: I'd like to hear some opinions on this: My friends and I were talking about Mages, and which ones were "best" throughout the game. We kind of came to the conclusion that bursty mages (Brand, Xerath, etc) kind of top out around the mid-game, but aren't threatening at all later on. On the other hand, sustained mages (Swain, Cass, Ryze) start out a bit weaker, but become monsters in the late game. Which would you rather have on your team and why? Obviously whichever one is played better by your teammate, but all things taken equally, what are your thoughts? Thats completely dependent on your teamcomp | ||
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Two_DoWn
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Requizen
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On February 14 2012 11:44 zulu_nation8 wrote: Not sure if cass is as much of a sustain mage as the other two, there are others like kennen, vlad who probably make use of spell vamp more. As to who is better, they all work differently in different comps. Xerath's poke and ability to catch people is very strong late. I mainly consider her such because her damage comes from DoTs and stringing E's together rather than a fire-and-forget combo like Veigar. | ||
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Terranasaur
United States2085 Posts
On February 14 2012 11:30 NeoIllusions wrote: Solo top AD Range is so good, because you stomp so many melee bruisers. Vayne, Graves, Cait (prob in that order too imoimo). All stronk at trading, helping ganks, escaping ganks. Sivir is also good at just afk farming and pushing top lane to tower. She'll excel against the bruisers who suck at farming at tower. Urgot real good solo top also. And dat ult too fun in ganks. | ||
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jcarlsoniv
United States27922 Posts
On February 14 2012 11:50 Two_DoWn wrote: Im like 99% sure the only lane cass loses is to kass. Her early game VERY stroink. Ahri shits on Cass in my experience. SHE TOO DAMN FAST | ||
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Two_DoWn
United States13684 Posts
On February 14 2012 11:52 jcarlsoniv wrote: Ahri shits on Cass in my experience. SHE TOO DAMN FAST Pretty sure that just makes u bad at skillshots. | ||
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sob3k
United States7572 Posts
On February 14 2012 11:52 jcarlsoniv wrote: Ahri shits on Cass in my experience. SHE TOO DAMN FAST xerath does fine vs Cass real men play LB vs cass and dodge all her ults | ||
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Navi
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jcarlsoniv
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On February 14 2012 11:57 sob3k wrote: xerath does fine vs Cass real men play LB vs cass and dodge all her ults Ehhhh Xerath stands still. Cass can take pretty good advantage of that. I'd rather lane against LB than Kass tbh. Also, shouldn't this all be in the Cass thread or the counters thread? :3 | ||
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Chairman Ray
United States11903 Posts
On February 14 2012 11:25 NeoIllusions wrote: Vlad fares much better top than mid. Learn Cass and Xerath. Morg and Zil are probably your best go-to atm. When should I pick Vlad top and when should I not? I would imagine matchups like Singed, Nasus, Garen, Teemo are pretty good for Vlad. How is Vlad vs Kennen? | ||
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jcarlsoniv
United States27922 Posts
On February 14 2012 12:08 Chairman Ray wrote: When should I pick Vlad top and when should I not? I would imagine matchups like Singed, Nasus, Garen, Teemo are pretty good for Vlad. How is Vlad vs Kennen? Right now, Kennen is the only champ I actually feel comfortable playing against Vlad. I know Cass can do well, but the amount of mana it takes while also leaving you extremely open for ganks can be risky. Kennen can harass all he wants and can't get ganked. | ||
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