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Heed these two simple warnings. It will help make our GD a better place.

Consider this fair notice to all users. Warning will be dished out this patch.

Thanks.
Neo, 31.01.12
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
February 09 2012 23:02 GMT
#2701
On February 10 2012 07:56 Two_DoWn wrote:
I think that you can look at individual decisions and see if they helped win the game or not. Ganking and getting a kill helped get the win, but only if you properly take into account how far behind that put the jungle.

Where that logic starts to fail is by trying to look at "what if"- trying to weigh decisions that were made against ones that werent, or trying to place value on which decisions mattered more.


Yeah, but still it is more important to determine what makes something a high percentage play than whether a play is right or wrong. If you get caught on "This is the right thing to do" you kill any arguement about it in your brain.

I think the mentally is toxic, try to avoid it. Kinda like blaming teammates, more effective to improve your own game.
starfries
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada3508 Posts
February 09 2012 23:02 GMT
#2702
On February 10 2012 07:56 Two_DoWn wrote:
I think that you can look at individual decisions and see if they helped win the game or not. Ganking and getting a kill helped get the win, but only if you properly take into account how far behind that put the jungle.

Where that logic starts to fail is by trying to look at "what if"- trying to weigh decisions that were made against ones that werent, or trying to place value on which decisions mattered more.

You take things like whether a play will help you win or not into account when considering your potential payoff. But it's a mistake to ignore the probability of success before making that play. Sure, when watching the replay you can say "that play won us the game right there", but that doesn't mean you played optimally or even well.
DJ – do you like ramen, Savior? Savior – not really. Bisu – I eat it often. Flash – I’m a maniac! | Foxer Fighting!
BlackMagister
Profile Joined October 2008
United States5834 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-09 23:14:48
February 09 2012 23:13 GMT
#2703
On February 10 2012 07:48 Doctorbeat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2012 07:47 Shiv. wrote:
What are RainMain and Regi arguing about?


Who has a bigger ego.

SK getting mad that TRM isn't joining the scrim. They're waiting 15 min in lobby now for TSM to stop arguing. Lol.

According to a post on LoL General TRM was disputting over a call that could have won or lost them the game saying they should not have engaged there. I haven't seen the game but forums seem to be siding with TRM. TRM also was angry enough that he attempted to solo Q before apparently being convinced to come back (don't have sound so can't hear their current talk).

Damn as typing TSM gets FB. Chaox playing MF again. Funny that SK was commenting in lobby "Where is Miss Fortunex?" when they thought Chaox was the one holding the game up. Now 1-3 for TSM for some reason in a very quick amount of time.
emucxg
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Finland4559 Posts
February 09 2012 23:17 GMT
#2704
Official blame soakers:

CLG - Doublelift
TSM - TRM


huehuehuehuehuehuehue
CeriseCherries
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
6170 Posts
February 09 2012 23:20 GMT
#2705
On February 10 2012 08:17 emucxg wrote:
Official blame soakers:

CLG - Doublelift
TSM - TRM


huehuehuehuehuehuehue


idk Jiji gets a lot of shit (only some deserved)
Remember, no matter where you go, there you are.
emucxg
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Finland4559 Posts
February 09 2012 23:25 GMT
#2706
On February 10 2012 08:20 CeriseCherries wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2012 08:17 emucxg wrote:
Official blame soakers:

CLG - Doublelift
TSM - TRM


huehuehuehuehuehuehue


idk Jiji gets a lot of shit (only some deserved)

nah, its SV who basically blames everybody.
Jiji and Chauster are like bros.
HSGG owns CLG so nobody dares throw shit on him


and poor doublelift rolf rolf rolf
Bladeorade
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1898 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-09 23:32:04
February 09 2012 23:26 GMT
#2707
Regi is playing real shitty :/

I really hate watching him play Cassi... those Ults are painful


....and his play in general this game
Seiuchi
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States931 Posts
February 09 2012 23:27 GMT
#2708
On February 10 2012 08:25 emucxg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2012 08:20 CeriseCherries wrote:
On February 10 2012 08:17 emucxg wrote:
Official blame soakers:

CLG - Doublelift
TSM - TRM


huehuehuehuehuehuehue


idk Jiji gets a lot of shit (only some deserved)

nah, its SV who basically blames everybody.
Jiji and Chauster are like bros.
HSGG owns CLG so nobody dares throw shit on him


and poor doublelift rolf rolf rolf


No one throws shit on HSGG?

Are you ignoring the daily SV/HSGG fight for dominance?
0123456789
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3216 Posts
February 09 2012 23:34 GMT
#2709
The problem is that all these guys don't get laid enough^_^
BlackMagister
Profile Joined October 2008
United States5834 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-09 23:36:12
February 09 2012 23:35 GMT
#2710
Xpecial has girlfriend explains why he so chill. And what happened to the scrim? It seemed like TSM was losing but not badly enough SK to end the game. I guess they just got aced and then surrendered?
Ziken
Profile Joined August 2010
Ghana1743 Posts
February 09 2012 23:35 GMT
#2711
On February 10 2012 08:27 Seiuchi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2012 08:25 emucxg wrote:
On February 10 2012 08:20 CeriseCherries wrote:
On February 10 2012 08:17 emucxg wrote:
Official blame soakers:

CLG - Doublelift
TSM - TRM


huehuehuehuehuehuehue


idk Jiji gets a lot of shit (only some deserved)

nah, its SV who basically blames everybody.
Jiji and Chauster are like bros.
HSGG owns CLG so nobody dares throw shit on him


and poor doublelift rolf rolf rolf


No one throws shit on HSGG?

Are you ignoring the daily SV/HSGG fight for dominance?


Yea but generally I find even SV wont cross a certain threshold with hotshot.
Every misfortune is a blessing in disguise.
emucxg
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Finland4559 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-09 23:39:30
February 09 2012 23:35 GMT
#2712
On February 10 2012 08:27 Seiuchi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2012 08:25 emucxg wrote:
On February 10 2012 08:20 CeriseCherries wrote:
On February 10 2012 08:17 emucxg wrote:
Official blame soakers:

CLG - Doublelift
TSM - TRM


huehuehuehuehuehuehue


idk Jiji gets a lot of shit (only some deserved)

nah, its SV who basically blames everybody.
Jiji and Chauster are like bros.
HSGG owns CLG so nobody dares throw shit on him


and poor doublelift rolf rolf rolf


No one throws shit on HSGG?

Are you ignoring the daily SV/HSGG fight for dominance?

its SV, dude
SV made big fight with everybody

SV vs Jiji, "jiji shit mid player, we carried you in every tournament" repeat 1+ every game, jiji stays quite
SV vs Chauster "im afraid to gank bot because bot sucks"... Chauster throw some shit back
SV vs doublelift "omg doublelift what you are doing" every game, doublelift argues back, then SV throw shit back
SV vs hotshotgg "omg hotshot, what was that" repeat x10 times every game, hotshotgg: "sorry that was my bad, i thought i could 1v5"
Bladeorade
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1898 Posts
February 09 2012 23:37 GMT
#2713
On February 10 2012 08:35 BlackMagister wrote:
Xpecial has girlfriend explains why he so chill. And what happened to the scrim? It seemed like TSM was losing but not badly enough SK to end the game. I guess they just got aced and then surrendered?

Wat?

They were getting dominated the whole time except Chaox from what I saw. SK had control of the map and Regi was so far behind. They really didn't seem into.
BlackMagister
Profile Joined October 2008
United States5834 Posts
February 09 2012 23:40 GMT
#2714
On February 10 2012 08:37 Bladeorade wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2012 08:35 BlackMagister wrote:
Xpecial has girlfriend explains why he so chill. And what happened to the scrim? It seemed like TSM was losing but not badly enough SK to end the game. I guess they just got aced and then surrendered?

Wat?

They were getting dominated the whole time except Chaox from what I saw. SK had control of the map and Regi was so far behind. They really didn't seem into.

Oh, multi tasking not watching as closely as I should. I thought the baron had at least given them a chance.
Bladeorade
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1898 Posts
February 09 2012 23:41 GMT
#2715
They lost the team fight when they had Baron. Regi tried to get Ahri with his ult but only hit her back and then SK just swooped in and cleaned shit up. Also Malphite hit a 4 person ult it looked like.

After that they killed Chaox and Regi bot and were about to push and take inhibs/nexus towers.
CeriseCherries
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
6170 Posts
February 09 2012 23:47 GMT
#2716
lol -.- well this is a good sign because the dysfunctional scrim TSM got to the last finals. its actually a ruse to make people complacent
Remember, no matter where you go, there you are.
emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
February 09 2012 23:58 GMT
#2717
Hopefully they'll be on point tonight for killing spree.
TRUEESPORTS || your days as a respected member of team liquid are over
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
February 10 2012 00:02 GMT
#2718
On February 10 2012 08:35 emucxg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2012 08:27 Seiuchi wrote:
On February 10 2012 08:25 emucxg wrote:
On February 10 2012 08:20 CeriseCherries wrote:
On February 10 2012 08:17 emucxg wrote:
Official blame soakers:

CLG - Doublelift
TSM - TRM


huehuehuehuehuehuehue


idk Jiji gets a lot of shit (only some deserved)

nah, its SV who basically blames everybody.
Jiji and Chauster are like bros.
HSGG owns CLG so nobody dares throw shit on him


and poor doublelift rolf rolf rolf


No one throws shit on HSGG?

Are you ignoring the daily SV/HSGG fight for dominance?

its SV, dude
SV made big fight with everybody

SV vs Jiji, "jiji shit mid player, we carried you in every tournament" repeat 1+ every game, jiji stays quite
SV vs Chauster "im afraid to gank bot because bot sucks"... Chauster throw some shit back
SV vs doublelift "omg doublelift what you are doing" every game, doublelift argues back, then SV throw shit back
SV vs hotshotgg "omg hotshot, what was that" repeat x10 times every game, hotshotgg: "sorry that was my bad, i thought i could 1v5"

The best part is when Hotshotgg goes beast mode, and sv is like "NO NO NO NO HOTSHOT WHAT ARE YOU DOING?" Hotshot goes on and just 1v5's entire team, npnpnp.
liftlift > tsm
Hidden_MotiveS
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada2562 Posts
February 10 2012 00:09 GMT
#2719
I'm considering the viability of AD morgana as a top laner right now. Someone tell me why I won't win my lane like this.
Chiharu Harukaze
Profile Joined September 2011
12112 Posts
February 10 2012 00:11 GMT
#2720
On February 10 2012 09:09 Hidden_MotiveS wrote:
I'm considering the viability of AD morgana as a top laner right now. Someone tell me why I won't win my lane like this.

Waste of free spellvamp! :o
It's like, "Is the Federation's Mobile Suit some kind of monster?"
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