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Navi
Profile Joined November 2009
5286 Posts
February 09 2012 20:44 GMT
#2641
vlad is not a flexible laner. he can get shut down really hard pre 7 as mogwai said and if he's gimped he has a helluva time getting back into the game. this may sound like it can be applied to any champ, but a vlad with a significant level disadvantage has no strength in lane due to his relatively weak Q. it only hurts that a lot of the champs that can put pressure on him at early levels (leblanc, kassadin, ahri, ryze, riven to name a few) are not only very good at setting up jungler ganks with their CC and consistently landable damage but also are decent at escaping ganks themselves (maybe kass post 6).

ofc lanes that cannot pressure vlad will inevitably have to face the wrath of his <4 second Q, but you should probably try not to pick him into those lanes.
Hey! Listen!
Niton
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2395 Posts
February 09 2012 20:44 GMT
#2642
CLG is also scrimming NA vs EU right now - Hotshot is going full bitchmode and it's not even 10 minutes in.
tree.hugger: Coming off of [(T)fantasy v. (T)Really] into [(T)Barracks v. (T)MVP] is like coming out of Manhattan into New Jersey. You just have to speed up and ignore it.
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
February 09 2012 20:52 GMT
#2643
On February 10 2012 05:44 Niton wrote:
CLG is also scrimming NA vs EU right now - Hotshot is going full bitchmode and it's not even 10 minutes in.


Regardless of Hotshot, watching jiji play TF is so great. I wish CLG would run jiji on TF more often, he's really solid on him.
Terranasaur
Profile Joined May 2011
United States2085 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-09 21:00:33
February 09 2012 20:55 GMT
#2644
On February 10 2012 05:44 Niton wrote:
CLG is also scrimming NA vs EU right now - Hotshot is going full bitchmode and it's not even 10 minutes in.


they aren't all streaming :/

but jiji is streaming his TF.... thats pretty cool.
Decisions Determine Destiny - Terranasaur#1719 D3 #557 SC2 3DS FC: 2423-3623-8068
dooraven
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia2820 Posts
February 09 2012 20:58 GMT
#2645
well, I don't think CLGeu is going to be running Heimer mid and Karthus jungle in a proper tourney after this lol.
Go go Alliance.
mr_tolkien
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France8631 Posts
February 09 2012 20:58 GMT
#2646
DoubleLift #1 feeder in his team.

Seriously, how can you be so BAD at everything else than micro ? ಠ_ಠ
The legend of Darien lives on
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-09 21:03:07
February 09 2012 21:02 GMT
#2647
On February 10 2012 05:58 mr_tolkien wrote:
DoubleLift #1 feeder in his team.

Seriously, how can you be so BAD at everything else than micro ? ಠ_ಠ


To be fair, he died to a four man gank while pushing second tower because saint told him to push second tower. Granted, he should've warded jungle but he was just doing what he was told to do and actually admitted that he should've warded.

CLGna beats CLGeu 14-1 in kills after getting owned by EU the first scrim. jiji TF too strong.
Ecael
Profile Joined February 2008
United States6703 Posts
February 09 2012 21:04 GMT
#2648
CLG solving jiji's passivity as mid with the easiest solution - let him play TF.
bmn
Profile Joined August 2010
886 Posts
February 09 2012 21:14 GMT
#2649
On February 10 2012 05:24 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
Kass is just as shitty in terms of CD as Vlad while being melee. Just trade autos and he's screwed.

You pool LBs ult.

I'm bad at Ahri so I reserve judgment on that.

Also MR runes.


IME Kass should not have trouble having the better part of the trades. If Kass' Q hits first, Vlad is silenced and can't retaliatee, but Kass can always Q after Vlad to trade. And Kass' Q outranges Vlad's (yes, it's not instant damage, but still).

Once Kass hits 6 he definitely has the upper hand in choosing when to trade, and arguably also in damage. (His E also hits harder than Vlad's)

I don't think Vlad is hard to shut down in lane, since there are many champs that do fine against him, but I agree that there are also many others which he can easily bully around.
Mios
Profile Joined April 2010
United States686 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-09 21:17:42
February 09 2012 21:17 GMT
#2650
dear god
zekes + bloodboil + sivir ulti + ww buff + taric buff + ... phantom dancer?
build DAMAGE not more attack speed sivir!
no LAN and intercontinental bnet = T_T
DoXa
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Switzerland1448 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-09 21:20:00
February 09 2012 21:18 GMT
#2651
this nunu in the g4lol finals game has to be the worst nunu jungler i've ever seen. i don't even know if he ganked once in 20 minutes yet he's even in CS with the enemy jungle maokai who ganked alot.

edit: and why would sivir even build AS first with nunu and taric on the team? pretty poor play by WW imo
Mios
Profile Joined April 2010
United States686 Posts
February 09 2012 21:23 GMT
#2652
On February 10 2012 06:18 DoXa wrote:
this nunu in the g4lol finals game has to be the worst nunu jungler i've ever seen. i don't even know if he ganked once in 20 minutes yet he's even in CS with the enemy jungle maokai who ganked alot.

edit: and why would sivir even build AS first with nunu and taric on the team? pretty poor play by WW imo


pretty sure he successfully ganked karthus early but they missed it... but yea, awful.
no LAN and intercontinental bnet = T_T
Doctorbeat
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands13241 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-09 21:24:55
February 09 2012 21:24 GMT
#2653
Aaaaaand Ranked Soloq in Euw has been disabled again...

This is happening pretty damn often now.

Btw, anyone seeing the viewer numbers on that DotA stream? 170k is pretty damn insane!
- TEAM LIQUID - doctorbeat on LoL
Keniji
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands2569 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-09 21:28:29
February 09 2012 21:28 GMT
#2654
On February 10 2012 06:18 DoXa wrote:
this nunu in the g4lol finals game has to be the worst nunu jungler i've ever seen. i don't even know if he ganked once in 20 minutes yet he's even in CS with the enemy jungle maokai who ganked alot.

edit: and why would sivir even build AS first with nunu and taric on the team? pretty poor play by WW imo


So as 2 people have mentioned it. Why exactly is it so bad to build AS with taric on the team? I mean I get it with nunu since he gives you an AS buff. But I always thought Taric´s ult gives you an AD buff so AS would be actually good. Or am I missing something here?
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22586 Posts
February 09 2012 21:28 GMT
#2655
On February 10 2012 06:18 DoXa wrote:
this nunu in the g4lol finals game has to be the worst nunu jungler i've ever seen. i don't even know if he ganked once in 20 minutes yet he's even in CS with the enemy jungle maokai who ganked alot.

edit: and why would sivir even build AS first with nunu and taric on the team? pretty poor play by WW imo


Considering warwick was stacking doran blades i dont think this game was a good indication in general.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
February 09 2012 21:29 GMT
#2656
On February 10 2012 06:28 Keniji wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2012 06:18 DoXa wrote:
this nunu in the g4lol finals game has to be the worst nunu jungler i've ever seen. i don't even know if he ganked once in 20 minutes yet he's even in CS with the enemy jungle maokai who ganked alot.

edit: and why would sivir even build AS first with nunu and taric on the team? pretty poor play by WW imo


So as 2 people have mentioned it. Why exactly is it so bad to build AS with taric on the team? I mean I get it with nunu since he gives you an AS buff. But I always thought Taric´s ult gives you an AD buff so AS would be actually good. Or am I missing something here?

I think they mean because with Taric you can get free double hit Boomerang Blades, which scales off your AD.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
arnath
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1317 Posts
February 09 2012 21:33 GMT
#2657
On February 10 2012 06:24 Doctorbeat wrote:
Aaaaaand Ranked Soloq in Euw has been disabled again...

This is happening pretty damn often now.

Btw, anyone seeing the viewer numbers on that DotA stream? 170k is pretty damn insane!

Link to the DotA stream?
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
February 09 2012 21:33 GMT
#2658
On February 10 2012 06:29 Mogwai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2012 06:28 Keniji wrote:
On February 10 2012 06:18 DoXa wrote:
this nunu in the g4lol finals game has to be the worst nunu jungler i've ever seen. i don't even know if he ganked once in 20 minutes yet he's even in CS with the enemy jungle maokai who ganked alot.

edit: and why would sivir even build AS first with nunu and taric on the team? pretty poor play by WW imo


So as 2 people have mentioned it. Why exactly is it so bad to build AS with taric on the team? I mean I get it with nunu since he gives you an AS buff. But I always thought Taric´s ult gives you an AD buff so AS would be actually good. Or am I missing something here?

I think they mean because with Taric you can get free double hit Boomerang Blades, which scales off your AD.


On a target whose armor has been debuffed no less.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
rethos
Profile Joined April 2010
Romania103 Posts
February 09 2012 21:50 GMT
#2659
Hey guys, i need some help with finding a specific match. It is the match in which goose played the jarvan/leona bot lane combo. I think it is from go4lol, but i just can not find it. Does someone happen to have a link to the vod on hand?
Flash is a beast... And we love it this way
Doctorbeat
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands13241 Posts
February 09 2012 21:54 GMT
#2660
On February 10 2012 06:33 arnath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2012 06:24 Doctorbeat wrote:
Aaaaaand Ranked Soloq in Euw has been disabled again...

This is happening pretty damn often now.

Btw, anyone seeing the viewer numbers on that DotA stream? 170k is pretty damn insane!

Link to the DotA stream?


Nvm, it's a VOD. Damn you Own3d.tv and your weird layout!
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