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On February 08 2012 21:56 ihasaKAROT wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2012 21:38 iCanada wrote:
Why does no one play Fiddles mid? He is kinda frail, and has a hard time farming, but in terms of mathups there really aren't many he loses just because his lane sustain is pretty ridiculous.
His farming is bad, but with a five second fear if a jungler ganks the other mid just dies 100% of the time. Best part is everyone and their moms dog thinks he sucks dick so you get away with the most ridiculous things ever.
You can pretty much just play him a lot like you'd play pantheon. His sustain is so good once he hits level 3/4 (depending on when you get fear) you can just trade blows at any time and usually come out ahead. he might not have the killing power of say a LB, but I think he is a terror to lane against, and is just as good if not better than Vlad is. Because his kit leads to exceptionally efficient trading, you can easily zone and make it so thast you lane opponent can't really farm. So while oyu aren't farming well, neither are they.
And thats not even getting into how dangerous he is once it hits late game... Once you grab a Zhoyna's and another big AP item Crowstorms just... melt... everything.
He is pretty strong, as far as I am concerned. If anything, his Q is imbalanced. Fiddles strengths come out with the element of surprise. If you are mid, people know you are mid. Theres nothing more terrifying then a fiddleult on your head when you least expect it. Cant do that when mid.
I think he's pretty bad mid. I mean I guess if you're mid you can just lifesteal off wraiths if you're behind, but lifestealing in lane is just putting a bulls eye on yourself. His only real harassment tool is his E (it has the potential to bounce three times but usually just hits once) and it's easier to keep fiddles at his tower than it is to keep ryze.
I used to lane fiddlesticks when I just started. Then I realized he was a pretty shitty mid laner and there are quite a few matchups that I felt he couldn't do anything in against a competent player.
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On February 08 2012 21:49 Skithiryx wrote:
I posted this over at Reddit but i'm curious what you guys think - proposed change to GP' Scurvy.
I'd be happy if instead of being QSS on a skill if they changed it something like - "Gangplank noms some delicious oranges granting him 10/15/20/25/30% Crowd control reduction for 5 seconds."
I think right now GP is close enough to balanced to not be a real issue. Remove Scurvy is a large enough part of his power level that changing it would require a rework, and I don't think that's worth the balance team's time at all right now.
On February 08 2012 21:56 ihasaKAROT wrote:
Fiddles strengths come out with the element of surprise. If you are mid, people know you are mid. Theres nothing more terrifying then a fiddleult on your head when you least expect it.
And then you ult mid during a gank.. from mid. They never saw it coming!
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On February 08 2012 19:49 Doctorbeat wrote:
Just read Dyrus' thread on Reddit, and I do agree that the atmosphere of the game house is pretty damn toxic. Chaox and Xpecial both have become far more ragey than they were before, and the same goes for TOO.
I'm currently really digging Wickd's streaming style. Constantly explaining the flow of the game, what trades to make or not to make, calling out bad plays when they happen, but not really raging a lot. Snoopeh sort of follows the same style, and those two are the ones that I currently watch the most. TSM's streams have become pretty unbearable for me.
I read the thread, and I don't think he calls the house toxic, nor does he insinuate that Chaox/Xspecial are getting more ragey. He says that some in the house are quite ragey (like TRM, Regi, etc) and there's minimal rage from Chaox/Xspecial, and that may be influencing him some.
I think it's natural for a bunch of guys that spend every waking moment together playing the same game to naturally start to adopt each other's personality traits, but that gaming house is amazing for TSM. That team has real love for each other and really has shown improvement over the months. I think they'd only get worse if they did not have the house.
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On February 08 2012 22:35 Takkara wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2012 19:49 Doctorbeat wrote:
Just read Dyrus' thread on Reddit, and I do agree that the atmosphere of the game house is pretty damn toxic. Chaox and Xpecial both have become far more ragey than they were before, and the same goes for TOO.
I'm currently really digging Wickd's streaming style. Constantly explaining the flow of the game, what trades to make or not to make, calling out bad plays when they happen, but not really raging a lot. Snoopeh sort of follows the same style, and those two are the ones that I currently watch the most. TSM's streams have become pretty unbearable for me. I read the thread, and I don't think he calls the house toxic, nor does he insinuate that Chaox/Xspecial are getting more ragey. He says that some in the house are quite ragey (like TRM, Regi, etc) and there's minimal rage from Chaox/Xspecial, and that may be influencing him some. I think it's natural for a bunch of guys that spend every waking moment together playing the same game to naturally start to adopt each other's personality traits, but that gaming house is amazing for TSM. That team has real love for each other and really has shown improvement over the months. I think they'd only get worse if they did not have the house.
I was speaking for myself, sorry. It's just that for me personally watching TSM scrim isn't all that fun. Since afterwards Regi and TRM start playing the blame game. That just isn't fun to watch for me, and I bet it's annoying others too.
I do agree that the house has served them well, they have improved immensely. But I don't like the attitude changes.
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Totally unrelated to recent discussions, I read the news post on official site about the coming Hannover tourney and I was amazed to see a several paragraph long news post without a single mention of the date of said tournament. Link to the ESL site is the closest there was and well ESL site...urgh. I put Hannover in search field at ESL, came up with nothing lol.
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On February 08 2012 23:03 Doctorbeat wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2012 22:35 Takkara wrote:On February 08 2012 19:49 Doctorbeat wrote:
Just read Dyrus' thread on Reddit, and I do agree that the atmosphere of the game house is pretty damn toxic. Chaox and Xpecial both have become far more ragey than they were before, and the same goes for TOO.
I'm currently really digging Wickd's streaming style. Constantly explaining the flow of the game, what trades to make or not to make, calling out bad plays when they happen, but not really raging a lot. Snoopeh sort of follows the same style, and those two are the ones that I currently watch the most. TSM's streams have become pretty unbearable for me. I read the thread, and I don't think he calls the house toxic, nor does he insinuate that Chaox/Xspecial are getting more ragey. He says that some in the house are quite ragey (like TRM, Regi, etc) and there's minimal rage from Chaox/Xspecial, and that may be influencing him some. I think it's natural for a bunch of guys that spend every waking moment together playing the same game to naturally start to adopt each other's personality traits, but that gaming house is amazing for TSM. That team has real love for each other and really has shown improvement over the months. I think they'd only get worse if they did not have the house. I was speaking for myself, sorry. It's just that for me personally watching TSM scrim isn't all that fun. Since afterwards Regi and TRM start playing the blame game. That just isn't fun to watch for me, and I bet it's annoying others too. I do agree that the house has served them well, they have improved immensely. But I don't like the attitude changes.
They just need a mediator/coach. There is one in EVERY team game out there (football, soccer, basket, ...), LoL isn't different. You can't count on team mates to be objective about themselves and take the responsibilities just after a crisis situation.
They should try playing a few game as 6, mb with Dyrus, watching their screens, and mediating the communication in «calm» moments, where they usually talk of the mistakes they just did.
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On February 08 2012 23:18 mr_tolkien wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2012 23:03 Doctorbeat wrote:On February 08 2012 22:35 Takkara wrote:On February 08 2012 19:49 Doctorbeat wrote:
Just read Dyrus' thread on Reddit, and I do agree that the atmosphere of the game house is pretty damn toxic. Chaox and Xpecial both have become far more ragey than they were before, and the same goes for TOO.
I'm currently really digging Wickd's streaming style. Constantly explaining the flow of the game, what trades to make or not to make, calling out bad plays when they happen, but not really raging a lot. Snoopeh sort of follows the same style, and those two are the ones that I currently watch the most. TSM's streams have become pretty unbearable for me. I read the thread, and I don't think he calls the house toxic, nor does he insinuate that Chaox/Xspecial are getting more ragey. He says that some in the house are quite ragey (like TRM, Regi, etc) and there's minimal rage from Chaox/Xspecial, and that may be influencing him some. I think it's natural for a bunch of guys that spend every waking moment together playing the same game to naturally start to adopt each other's personality traits, but that gaming house is amazing for TSM. That team has real love for each other and really has shown improvement over the months. I think they'd only get worse if they did not have the house. I was speaking for myself, sorry. It's just that for me personally watching TSM scrim isn't all that fun. Since afterwards Regi and TRM start playing the blame game. That just isn't fun to watch for me, and I bet it's annoying others too. I do agree that the house has served them well, they have improved immensely. But I don't like the attitude changes. They just need a mediator/coach. There is one in EVERY team game out there (football, soccer, basket, ...), LoL isn't different. You can't count on team mates to be objective about themselves and take the responsibilities just after a crisis situation. They should try playing a few game as 6, mb with Dyrus, watching their screens, and mediating the communication in «calm» moments, where they usually talk of the mistakes they just did.
Gimme 3 weeks with any of the top teams and they'll communicate like greek gods with each other ingame/post-game and crush the entire opposition with just that. There is no single team out there which is skilled in that area.
Too bad they prolly don't wanna pay my rates. =P
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On February 08 2012 23:18 mr_tolkien wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2012 23:03 Doctorbeat wrote:On February 08 2012 22:35 Takkara wrote:On February 08 2012 19:49 Doctorbeat wrote:
Just read Dyrus' thread on Reddit, and I do agree that the atmosphere of the game house is pretty damn toxic. Chaox and Xpecial both have become far more ragey than they were before, and the same goes for TOO.
I'm currently really digging Wickd's streaming style. Constantly explaining the flow of the game, what trades to make or not to make, calling out bad plays when they happen, but not really raging a lot. Snoopeh sort of follows the same style, and those two are the ones that I currently watch the most. TSM's streams have become pretty unbearable for me. I read the thread, and I don't think he calls the house toxic, nor does he insinuate that Chaox/Xspecial are getting more ragey. He says that some in the house are quite ragey (like TRM, Regi, etc) and there's minimal rage from Chaox/Xspecial, and that may be influencing him some. I think it's natural for a bunch of guys that spend every waking moment together playing the same game to naturally start to adopt each other's personality traits, but that gaming house is amazing for TSM. That team has real love for each other and really has shown improvement over the months. I think they'd only get worse if they did not have the house. I was speaking for myself, sorry. It's just that for me personally watching TSM scrim isn't all that fun. Since afterwards Regi and TRM start playing the blame game. That just isn't fun to watch for me, and I bet it's annoying others too. I do agree that the house has served them well, they have improved immensely. But I don't like the attitude changes. They just need a mediator/coach. There is one in EVERY team game out there (football, soccer, basket, ...), LoL isn't different. You can't count on team mates to be objective about themselves and take the responsibilities just after a crisis situation. They should try playing a few game as 6, mb with Dyrus, watching their screens, and mediating the communication in «calm» moments, where they usually talk of the mistakes they just did.
Totally agree. Altho in TSM's case, this person would only be referred to as 'hey bro bro bro get me some food bro bro bro'
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On February 08 2012 23:31 ihasaKAROT wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2012 23:18 mr_tolkien wrote:On February 08 2012 23:03 Doctorbeat wrote:On February 08 2012 22:35 Takkara wrote:On February 08 2012 19:49 Doctorbeat wrote:
Just read Dyrus' thread on Reddit, and I do agree that the atmosphere of the game house is pretty damn toxic. Chaox and Xpecial both have become far more ragey than they were before, and the same goes for TOO.
I'm currently really digging Wickd's streaming style. Constantly explaining the flow of the game, what trades to make or not to make, calling out bad plays when they happen, but not really raging a lot. Snoopeh sort of follows the same style, and those two are the ones that I currently watch the most. TSM's streams have become pretty unbearable for me. I read the thread, and I don't think he calls the house toxic, nor does he insinuate that Chaox/Xspecial are getting more ragey. He says that some in the house are quite ragey (like TRM, Regi, etc) and there's minimal rage from Chaox/Xspecial, and that may be influencing him some. I think it's natural for a bunch of guys that spend every waking moment together playing the same game to naturally start to adopt each other's personality traits, but that gaming house is amazing for TSM. That team has real love for each other and really has shown improvement over the months. I think they'd only get worse if they did not have the house. I was speaking for myself, sorry. It's just that for me personally watching TSM scrim isn't all that fun. Since afterwards Regi and TRM start playing the blame game. That just isn't fun to watch for me, and I bet it's annoying others too. I do agree that the house has served them well, they have improved immensely. But I don't like the attitude changes. They just need a mediator/coach. There is one in EVERY team game out there (football, soccer, basket, ...), LoL isn't different. You can't count on team mates to be objective about themselves and take the responsibilities just after a crisis situation. They should try playing a few game as 6, mb with Dyrus, watching their screens, and mediating the communication in «calm» moments, where they usually talk of the mistakes they just did. Totally agree. Altho in TSM's case, this person would only be referred to as 'hey bro bro bro get me some food bro bro bro'
To which he could answer : «I'm not your bro, and if you want to take a break from playing to eat, I give you 1 hour».
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On February 08 2012 23:38 mr_tolkien wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2012 23:31 ihasaKAROT wrote:On February 08 2012 23:18 mr_tolkien wrote:On February 08 2012 23:03 Doctorbeat wrote:On February 08 2012 22:35 Takkara wrote:On February 08 2012 19:49 Doctorbeat wrote:
Just read Dyrus' thread on Reddit, and I do agree that the atmosphere of the game house is pretty damn toxic. Chaox and Xpecial both have become far more ragey than they were before, and the same goes for TOO.
I'm currently really digging Wickd's streaming style. Constantly explaining the flow of the game, what trades to make or not to make, calling out bad plays when they happen, but not really raging a lot. Snoopeh sort of follows the same style, and those two are the ones that I currently watch the most. TSM's streams have become pretty unbearable for me. I read the thread, and I don't think he calls the house toxic, nor does he insinuate that Chaox/Xspecial are getting more ragey. He says that some in the house are quite ragey (like TRM, Regi, etc) and there's minimal rage from Chaox/Xspecial, and that may be influencing him some. I think it's natural for a bunch of guys that spend every waking moment together playing the same game to naturally start to adopt each other's personality traits, but that gaming house is amazing for TSM. That team has real love for each other and really has shown improvement over the months. I think they'd only get worse if they did not have the house. I was speaking for myself, sorry. It's just that for me personally watching TSM scrim isn't all that fun. Since afterwards Regi and TRM start playing the blame game. That just isn't fun to watch for me, and I bet it's annoying others too. I do agree that the house has served them well, they have improved immensely. But I don't like the attitude changes. They just need a mediator/coach. There is one in EVERY team game out there (football, soccer, basket, ...), LoL isn't different. You can't count on team mates to be objective about themselves and take the responsibilities just after a crisis situation. They should try playing a few game as 6, mb with Dyrus, watching their screens, and mediating the communication in «calm» moments, where they usually talk of the mistakes they just did. Totally agree. Altho in TSM's case, this person would only be referred to as 'hey bro bro bro get me some food bro bro bro' To which he could answer : «I'm not your bro, and if you want to take a break from playing to eat, I give you 1 hour».
The fuck. First order of business is slapping their eating, sleeping and working out habits into place.
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On February 08 2012 23:40 r.Evo wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2012 23:38 mr_tolkien wrote:On February 08 2012 23:31 ihasaKAROT wrote:On February 08 2012 23:18 mr_tolkien wrote:On February 08 2012 23:03 Doctorbeat wrote:On February 08 2012 22:35 Takkara wrote:On February 08 2012 19:49 Doctorbeat wrote:
Just read Dyrus' thread on Reddit, and I do agree that the atmosphere of the game house is pretty damn toxic. Chaox and Xpecial both have become far more ragey than they were before, and the same goes for TOO.
I'm currently really digging Wickd's streaming style. Constantly explaining the flow of the game, what trades to make or not to make, calling out bad plays when they happen, but not really raging a lot. Snoopeh sort of follows the same style, and those two are the ones that I currently watch the most. TSM's streams have become pretty unbearable for me. I read the thread, and I don't think he calls the house toxic, nor does he insinuate that Chaox/Xspecial are getting more ragey. He says that some in the house are quite ragey (like TRM, Regi, etc) and there's minimal rage from Chaox/Xspecial, and that may be influencing him some. I think it's natural for a bunch of guys that spend every waking moment together playing the same game to naturally start to adopt each other's personality traits, but that gaming house is amazing for TSM. That team has real love for each other and really has shown improvement over the months. I think they'd only get worse if they did not have the house. I was speaking for myself, sorry. It's just that for me personally watching TSM scrim isn't all that fun. Since afterwards Regi and TRM start playing the blame game. That just isn't fun to watch for me, and I bet it's annoying others too. I do agree that the house has served them well, they have improved immensely. But I don't like the attitude changes. They just need a mediator/coach. There is one in EVERY team game out there (football, soccer, basket, ...), LoL isn't different. You can't count on team mates to be objective about themselves and take the responsibilities just after a crisis situation. They should try playing a few game as 6, mb with Dyrus, watching their screens, and mediating the communication in «calm» moments, where they usually talk of the mistakes they just did. Totally agree. Altho in TSM's case, this person would only be referred to as 'hey bro bro bro get me some food bro bro bro' To which he could answer : «I'm not your bro, and if you want to take a break from playing to eat, I give you 1 hour». The fuck. First order of business is slapping their eating, sleeping and working out habits into place.
Taking a clean break to eat would be a BIG improvement to their lifestyle >.>
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On February 08 2012 23:42 mr_tolkien wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2012 23:40 r.Evo wrote:On February 08 2012 23:38 mr_tolkien wrote:On February 08 2012 23:31 ihasaKAROT wrote:On February 08 2012 23:18 mr_tolkien wrote:On February 08 2012 23:03 Doctorbeat wrote:On February 08 2012 22:35 Takkara wrote:On February 08 2012 19:49 Doctorbeat wrote:
Just read Dyrus' thread on Reddit, and I do agree that the atmosphere of the game house is pretty damn toxic. Chaox and Xpecial both have become far more ragey than they were before, and the same goes for TOO.
I'm currently really digging Wickd's streaming style. Constantly explaining the flow of the game, what trades to make or not to make, calling out bad plays when they happen, but not really raging a lot. Snoopeh sort of follows the same style, and those two are the ones that I currently watch the most. TSM's streams have become pretty unbearable for me. I read the thread, and I don't think he calls the house toxic, nor does he insinuate that Chaox/Xspecial are getting more ragey. He says that some in the house are quite ragey (like TRM, Regi, etc) and there's minimal rage from Chaox/Xspecial, and that may be influencing him some. I think it's natural for a bunch of guys that spend every waking moment together playing the same game to naturally start to adopt each other's personality traits, but that gaming house is amazing for TSM. That team has real love for each other and really has shown improvement over the months. I think they'd only get worse if they did not have the house. I was speaking for myself, sorry. It's just that for me personally watching TSM scrim isn't all that fun. Since afterwards Regi and TRM start playing the blame game. That just isn't fun to watch for me, and I bet it's annoying others too. I do agree that the house has served them well, they have improved immensely. But I don't like the attitude changes. They just need a mediator/coach. There is one in EVERY team game out there (football, soccer, basket, ...), LoL isn't different. You can't count on team mates to be objective about themselves and take the responsibilities just after a crisis situation. They should try playing a few game as 6, mb with Dyrus, watching their screens, and mediating the communication in «calm» moments, where they usually talk of the mistakes they just did. Totally agree. Altho in TSM's case, this person would only be referred to as 'hey bro bro bro get me some food bro bro bro' To which he could answer : «I'm not your bro, and if you want to take a break from playing to eat, I give you 1 hour». The fuck. First order of business is slapping their eating, sleeping and working out habits into place. Taking a clean break to eat would be a BIG improvement to their lifestyle >.>
"What do you mean I can't show off me slurping my awesome microwave food on stream?!"
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On February 08 2012 23:21 r.Evo wrote:
Gimme 3 weeks with any of the top teams and they'll communicate like greek gods with each other ingame/post-game and crush the entire opposition with just that. There is no single team out there which is skilled in that area.
Too bad they prolly don't wanna pay my rates. =P
You should straighten your greek gods facts up....they were at each others throats, flinging burning stones and cutting genitals more often than not...though even that might be a slight improvement to the communication TSM now has :D
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So what ever happened to those Shen buffs that were supposed to happen? I played him a bit again since he was free last week, and remembered how fun he could be. But his energy consumption is just silly. Didn't they say they were trying to work on that?
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On February 08 2012 23:50 Brockster wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2012 23:21 r.Evo wrote:
Gimme 3 weeks with any of the top teams and they'll communicate like greek gods with each other ingame/post-game and crush the entire opposition with just that. There is no single team out there which is skilled in that area.
Too bad they prolly don't wanna pay my rates. =P You should straighten your greek gods facts up....they were at each others throats, flinging burning stones and cutting genitals more often than not...though even that might be a slight improvement to the communication TSM now has :D
They also fucked every goddamn mortal whenever they pleased and erhm.. erhm... oh well, fuck, I'm not getting out of that anymore. >_<
ggevo. I hoped no one finds out what random crap I typed there when it was too late to edit it. =P
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On February 08 2012 23:08 daemir wrote:
Totally unrelated to recent discussions, I read the news post on official site about the coming Hannover tourney and I was amazed to see a several paragraph long news post without a single mention of the date of said tournament. Link to the ESL site is the closest there was and well ESL site...urgh. I put Hannover in search field at ESL, came up with nothing lol.
http://www.esl-world.net/masters/season6/hanover/
2 min. of searching on google.
I got excited when I saw it being featured only to find out it's 1 month away :/
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On February 08 2012 23:57 Requizen wrote:
So what ever happened to those Shen buffs that were supposed to happen? I played him a bit again since he was free last week, and remembered how fun he could be. But his energy consumption is just silly. Didn't they say they were trying to work on that?
He still only has 2 useful skills. Taunt and Ult. I think they could make him better by making him resourceless like Kat and Riven.
And yes, Riot have said that they want to fix Shen. But they said the same about Twitch and Eve a year ago.
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On February 09 2012 00:13 Doctorbeat wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2012 23:57 Requizen wrote:
So what ever happened to those Shen buffs that were supposed to happen? I played him a bit again since he was free last week, and remembered how fun he could be. But his energy consumption is just silly. Didn't they say they were trying to work on that? He still only has 2 useful skills. Taunt and Ult. I think they could make him better by making him resourceless like Kat and Riven. And yes, Riot have said that they want to fix Shen. But they said the same about Twitch and Eve a year ago.
I think Vorpal Blade is fine as well, maybe either the heal or damage could be upped, but it's pretty good as a mini nuke/support heal. His shield is just completely useless. If they made that free, no cost at all, it would be a huge boost in his viability I think.
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