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gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
February 08 2012 09:37 GMT
#2181
On February 08 2012 18:33 starfries wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2012 18:20 BlackPaladin wrote:
I always did love the people in LiquidParty that went "what's TL?" and were serious....

How do people even find out about LiquidParty without being from TL?


some popular streamers used to have liquidparty as a hangout for a while
people would see their streams, see the chat channels, join them
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
February 08 2012 09:37 GMT
#2182
Streamers. Locodoco had it on his stream before, elementz too. Other big streamers have also been in LP before while streaming. And little moronic kids think they're apparently cool if they're in the same internet chatroom as someone popular so they follow them around like little dogs.
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
schmutttt
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia3856 Posts
February 08 2012 09:48 GMT
#2183
On February 08 2012 18:25 schmutttt wrote:
Can we watch rebroadcasts of the EG vs CLG games anywhere? I don't know how to on own3d .


Help please!
FR4CT4L
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia697 Posts
February 08 2012 10:06 GMT
#2184
On February 08 2012 18:48 schmutttt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2012 18:25 schmutttt wrote:
Can we watch rebroadcasts of the EG vs CLG games anywhere? I don't know how to on own3d .


Help please!


As far as I can tell none of the players recorded the games so unless somebody else recorded them and throws them on youtube you are out of luck.
Veni, vidi, vici!
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-08 10:42:15
February 08 2012 10:29 GMT
#2185
On February 08 2012 18:33 starfries wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2012 18:20 BlackPaladin wrote:
I always did love the people in LiquidParty that went "what's TL?" and were serious....

How do people even find out about LiquidParty without being from TL?

Streamers~~
It's why people who stream on euw leave lp when they start streaming.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
Doctorbeat
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands13241 Posts
February 08 2012 10:49 GMT
#2186
Just read Dyrus' thread on Reddit, and I do agree that the atmosphere of the game house is pretty damn toxic. Chaox and Xpecial both have become far more ragey than they were before, and the same goes for TOO.

I'm currently really digging Wickd's streaming style. Constantly explaining the flow of the game, what trades to make or not to make, calling out bad plays when they happen, but not really raging a lot. Snoopeh sort of follows the same style, and those two are the ones that I currently watch the most. TSM's streams have become pretty unbearable for me.
- TEAM LIQUID - doctorbeat on LoL
Timerly
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany511 Posts
February 08 2012 10:59 GMT
#2187
Wickd is Dane, Snoopeh is English. Seems to me like the EU players are far less rage-stuffed than the US guys, at least on stream.
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14080 Posts
February 08 2012 11:08 GMT
#2188
On February 08 2012 19:49 Doctorbeat wrote:
Just read Dyrus' thread on Reddit, and I do agree that the atmosphere of the game house is pretty damn toxic. Chaox and Xpecial both have become far more ragey than they were before, and the same goes for TOO.

I'm currently really digging Wickd's streaming style. Constantly explaining the flow of the game, what trades to make or not to make, calling out bad plays when they happen, but not really raging a lot. Snoopeh sort of follows the same style, and those two are the ones that I currently watch the most. TSM's streams have become pretty unbearable for me.


I gotta say that his attitude/that thread in itself is just awesome. Big props to him for caring about this type of stuff.
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
ihasaKAROT
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4730 Posts
February 08 2012 11:09 GMT
#2189
On February 08 2012 19:49 Doctorbeat wrote:
Just read Dyrus' thread on Reddit, and I do agree that the atmosphere of the game house is pretty damn toxic. Chaox and Xpecial both have become far more ragey than they were before, and the same goes for TOO.

I'm currently really digging Wickd's streaming style. Constantly explaining the flow of the game, what trades to make or not to make, calling out bad plays when they happen, but not really raging a lot. Snoopeh sort of follows the same style, and those two are the ones that I currently watch the most. TSM's streams have become pretty unbearable for me.


Snoopeh gets the question 'how to improve' alot, he allways advices to stay calm and dont get mad. Hes allways so calm. Bad things happen, good things happen. Live with it
KCCO!
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
February 08 2012 11:10 GMT
#2190
On February 08 2012 19:59 Timerly wrote:
Wickd is Dane, Snoopeh is English. Seems to me like the EU players are far less rage-stuffed than the US guys, at least on stream.


Holy generalization batman. Several of the US guys don't rage, and several of the EU guys do.

Hell, Salce is the least raging player I have ever seen play this game. He'll just be sitting there, his bot/top/Jungle dying left and right and he just... wrecks things with Ori.
Keniji
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands2569 Posts
February 08 2012 11:14 GMT
#2191
So I just won a game and our overall elo BEFORE the game was like 150 elo higher. Still got +13. How the hell?
cascades
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Singapore6122 Posts
February 08 2012 11:16 GMT
#2192
Its called other team has 2 duoqs and you have none. Also known as a free win.
HS: cascades#1595 || LoL: stoppin
Keniji
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands2569 Posts
February 08 2012 11:20 GMT
#2193
On February 08 2012 19:49 Doctorbeat wrote:
Just read Dyrus' thread on Reddit, and I do agree that the atmosphere of the game house is pretty damn toxic. Chaox and Xpecial both have become far more ragey than they were before, and the same goes for TOO.

I'm currently really digging Wickd's streaming style. Constantly explaining the flow of the game, what trades to make or not to make, calling out bad plays when they happen, but not really raging a lot. Snoopeh sort of follows the same style, and those two are the ones that I currently watch the most. TSM's streams have become pretty unbearable for me.


Yea I really like to watch wick'd. He is not raging and is sooooooooo damn happy when his teammates do something good or something just works out.
daemir
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland8662 Posts
February 08 2012 11:25 GMT
#2194
I'd like to echo that Snoopeh is a great streamer to watch if you want rage free and tip heavy viewing.
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15845 Posts
February 08 2012 11:39 GMT
#2195
On February 08 2012 20:16 cascades wrote:
Its called other team has 2 duoqs and you have none. Also known as a free win.

I just know when duoQ sare on my side and they're mostly freelose. Is it the same for everyone else? It's around 1K3 elo.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
Papvin
Profile Joined May 2009
Denmark610 Posts
February 08 2012 11:44 GMT
#2196
On February 08 2012 20:25 daemir wrote:
I'd like to echo that Snoopeh is a great streamer to watch if you want rage free and tip heavy viewing.


And heavy scotish accent!
"It's criminally negligent to dismiss Rock's contributions to other people's careers", Dukethegold
Doctorbeat
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands13241 Posts
February 08 2012 11:52 GMT
#2197
On February 08 2012 20:08 r.Evo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2012 19:49 Doctorbeat wrote:
Just read Dyrus' thread on Reddit, and I do agree that the atmosphere of the game house is pretty damn toxic. Chaox and Xpecial both have become far more ragey than they were before, and the same goes for TOO.

I'm currently really digging Wickd's streaming style. Constantly explaining the flow of the game, what trades to make or not to make, calling out bad plays when they happen, but not really raging a lot. Snoopeh sort of follows the same style, and those two are the ones that I currently watch the most. TSM's streams have become pretty unbearable for me.


I gotta say that his attitude/that thread in itself is just awesome. Big props to him for caring about this type of stuff.


Definitely. Big props for his willingness to improve and his ability to criticise himself.

Scrims are exactly the same for me btw, the difference between a team like CLG.eu and a team like TSM talking about a lost game is so vast. Reginald and Rainman calling eachother fucking retards whilst the rest of the team is quietly waiting for them to stop isn't exactly team building. CLG NA suffers from the same problem.
- TEAM LIQUID - doctorbeat on LoL
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-08 12:41:56
February 08 2012 12:38 GMT
#2198
Why does no one play Fiddles mid? He is kinda frail, and has a hard time farming, but in terms of mathups there really aren't many he loses just because his lane sustain is pretty ridiculous.

His farming is bad, but with a five second fear if a jungler ganks the other mid just dies 100% of the time. Best part is everyone and their moms dog thinks he sucks dick so you get away with the most ridiculous things ever.

You can pretty much just play him a lot like you'd play pantheon. His sustain is so good once he hits level 3/4 (depending on when you get fear) you can just trade blows at any time and usually come out ahead. he might not have the killing power of say a LB, but I think he is a terror to lane against, and is just as good if not better than Vlad is. Because his kit leads to exceptionally efficient trading, you can easily zone and make it so thast you lane opponent can't really farm. So while oyu aren't farming well, neither are they.

And thats not even getting into how dangerous he is once it hits late game... Once you grab a Zhoyna's and another big AP item Crowstorms just... melt... everything.

He is pretty strong, as far as I am concerned. If anything, his Q is imbalanced.
Skithiryx
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia648 Posts
February 08 2012 12:49 GMT
#2199
I posted this over at Reddit but i'm curious what you guys think - proposed change to GP' Scurvy.

I'd be happy if instead of being QSS on a skill if they changed it something like - "Gangplank noms some delicious oranges granting him 10/15/20/25/30% Crowd control reduction for 5 seconds."
ihasaKAROT
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4730 Posts
February 08 2012 12:56 GMT
#2200
On February 08 2012 21:38 iCanada wrote:
Why does no one play Fiddles mid? He is kinda frail, and has a hard time farming, but in terms of mathups there really aren't many he loses just because his lane sustain is pretty ridiculous.

His farming is bad, but with a five second fear if a jungler ganks the other mid just dies 100% of the time. Best part is everyone and their moms dog thinks he sucks dick so you get away with the most ridiculous things ever.

You can pretty much just play him a lot like you'd play pantheon. His sustain is so good once he hits level 3/4 (depending on when you get fear) you can just trade blows at any time and usually come out ahead. he might not have the killing power of say a LB, but I think he is a terror to lane against, and is just as good if not better than Vlad is. Because his kit leads to exceptionally efficient trading, you can easily zone and make it so thast you lane opponent can't really farm. So while oyu aren't farming well, neither are they.

And thats not even getting into how dangerous he is once it hits late game... Once you grab a Zhoyna's and another big AP item Crowstorms just... melt... everything.

He is pretty strong, as far as I am concerned. If anything, his Q is imbalanced.


Fiddles strengths come out with the element of surprise. If you are mid, people know you are mid. Theres nothing more terrifying then a fiddleult on your head when you least expect it.

Cant do that when mid.
KCCO!
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