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Use the Champion threads whenever appropriate.
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If you want to whine about server lag, use the QQ thread. We all suffer alike when Riot servers kaput. No need to make a post about it in GD.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
January 25 2012 01:04 GMT
#2041
On January 25 2012 09:58 r.Evo wrote:
Uhm... seeing that warning above, where is the line currently for "QQ thread go there fknewb"?

Is the warning just about "4 games, 3 with d/c, cool servers" (not fine) vs "4 games, 3 with d/c, cool servers riot, anyone else got that problem?" (totally fine cause it's not PURE whining)?


Like, personally I see no real diifference between those two, since anyone answering to the first statement will either confirm or deny that he had lots of disconnects as well. So despite him not asking about what's going on for others the topic itself kinda implies that.


If someone says "wow I just lost 5 games due to stupid teammates" - THAT is imo a statement which was just done to vent somewhere, without the intention of getting any constructive feedback. Also with this statement an attached "...anyone else having the same problem?" would not change whether it's whining or not.

Haven't one-liners been warn-able since forever?

And Craton's post is basically a one-liner.
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Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
January 25 2012 01:07 GMT
#2042
On January 25 2012 10:04 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2012 09:58 r.Evo wrote:
Uhm... seeing that warning above, where is the line currently for "QQ thread go there fknewb"?

Is the warning just about "4 games, 3 with d/c, cool servers" (not fine) vs "4 games, 3 with d/c, cool servers riot, anyone else got that problem?" (totally fine cause it's not PURE whining)?


Like, personally I see no real diifference between those two, since anyone answering to the first statement will either confirm or deny that he had lots of disconnects as well. So despite him not asking about what's going on for others the topic itself kinda implies that.


If someone says "wow I just lost 5 games due to stupid teammates" - THAT is imo a statement which was just done to vent somewhere, without the intention of getting any constructive feedback. Also with this statement an attached "...anyone else having the same problem?" would not change whether it's whining or not.

Haven't one-liners been warn-able since forever?

And Craton's post is basically a one-liner.

Judging by his comment he got warned for not posting in the QQ thread, not for a one-liner
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
January 25 2012 01:08 GMT
#2043
all his posts are one-liners, not gonna lie i'm surprised he doesn't get warned more
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17296 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-25 01:16:08
January 25 2012 01:11 GMT
#2044
Here are five examples:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=298937&currentpage=14#263
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=294172&currentpage=185#3697
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=294172&currentpage=130#2598
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=294172&currentpage=121#2411
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=289985&currentpage=128#2548


On January 25 2012 09:58 r.Evo wrote:
Uhm... seeing that warning above, where is the line currently for "QQ thread go there fknewb"?

Is the warning just about "4 games, 3 with d/c, cool servers" (not fine) vs "4 games, 3 with d/c, cool servers riot, anyone else got that problem?" (totally fine cause it's not PURE whining)?

Like, personally I see no real diifference between those two, since anyone answering to the first statement will either confirm or deny that he had lots of disconnects as well. So despite him not asking about what's going on for others the topic itself kinda implies that.

If someone says "wow I just lost 5 games due to stupid teammates" - THAT is imo a statement which was just done to vent somewhere, without the intention of getting any constructive feedback. Also with this statement an attached "...anyone else having the same problem?" would not change whether it's whining or not.

Well considering I won 2 of the 3 with d/cs (because the enemy team had 2 of them), I wasn't bitching about losing due to D/Cs, but rather that the servers where being unstable for the nth time in the last several weeks. It was also a probe to see who else was having issues.
twitch.tv/cratonz
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-25 01:16:25
January 25 2012 01:15 GMT
#2045
yes, those are great examples of pointless 1-liner posts lol ty craton

*gets the irony*
*doesn't need you to point out that my last 2 posts are also 1-liners*
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
CeriseCherries
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
6170 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-25 01:20:35
January 25 2012 01:18 GMT
#2046
SV jungling TF to great effect... viable?
edit: ok effect
Remember, no matter where you go, there you are.
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17296 Posts
January 25 2012 01:22 GMT
#2047
It works only if you can make the global ult ganks overcome his shitty clearspeed and lack of dragon control
twitch.tv/cratonz
LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
January 25 2012 01:22 GMT
#2048
On January 25 2012 10:18 CeriseCherries wrote:
SV jungling TF to great effect... viable?
edit: ok effect




he is just trolling a normal game cause he didnt get his kennen.
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
January 25 2012 01:23 GMT
#2049
On January 25 2012 09:17 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2012 08:43 requiem wrote:
On January 25 2012 08:26 Two_DoWn wrote:
Again- remember that just because there IS a lane doesnt mean that there has to be an S class player for that lane.

Actually, I think top is the most pathetic of all positions ATM. For some reason it became "okay" for a tournament top lane player to not have a wide selection of champions. I mean, most SUPPORTS can play more champions than the top laners on their team. And there are like 5 support champions.


if you have all your bases covered well, why do you need to know a bunch of other underpowered and niche heroes? don't think nada or oov needed to master nukes to be S-class when they had the fundamentals mastered well

like, a tournament level gp or irelia doesn't need to demonstrate his prowess with singed/cho/olaf/whoever else there is when there's no need for fancy play syndrome

It's not playing "niche" or "underpowered" heroes. It's playing the hero that's best suited to the team-comp that their team wants to play. Many top laners on high-level teams aren't even capable of that, and end up having to shoehorn their limited picks into a team that's not suited for them, or against a team that they're not good against.

Show nested quote +
On January 25 2012 08:48 requiem wrote:
the elite top players may or may not be able to play 10 heroes like some mids can but i don't see how banning 4 of his heroes is going to cripple him (3 ban + 1 pick for your own top) if, as i said, he "has his bases covered"

You're assuming that getting to play a hero that he knows how to play is good enough, but at the top level it's not the case. Suppose they ban/pick against your top laner, and take out 4 of his 5 heroes. Even if he's got one left he can play, that's simply not good for you because you're forced in a situation where you HAVE to play team-comps that fit that hero. Or worse, try to shoehorn that hero into a team-comp that he's NOT good in.

It's not necessary for a player to know every hero in their role. But given a team that is comfortable playing a specific set of strategies, it IS necessary for a player to be able to play heroes that are suitable for those strategies. It should never be the case that a team might think "X is the best hero left for this team-comp on paper, but we can't use X because our top laner doesn't know how to play him". The 4 other players on your team shouldn't have to play with a suboptimal top lane pick just because you don't know the hero that would fit the team-comp the best.


I think this is the main reason we saw so much irelia and gangplank at IEM. Both are relatively good in pretty much any teamcomp. I feel like a top laner playing 10-20 champions at tournament level is just asking too much. Plus the fact that you can run pretty much anything top lane from ad carries (vayne, corki) to assassins (akali) to bruisers (irelia, gangplank) to your double ap comps...It's just absurd how many champions one person would have to know how to play.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
CeriseCherries
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
6170 Posts
January 25 2012 01:26 GMT
#2050
On January 25 2012 10:22 LaNague wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2012 10:18 CeriseCherries wrote:
SV jungling TF to great effect... viable?
edit: ok effect




he is just trolling a normal game cause he didnt get his kennen.


i kno... i say this with a tint of irony
Remember, no matter where you go, there you are.
LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
January 25 2012 01:37 GMT
#2051
new champ, heimers best buddy?

http://euw.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=565521
Abenson
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada4122 Posts
January 25 2012 01:40 GMT
#2052
Yay, I'm now out of elo heaven and hovering somewhere in the 1100's after tryharding a bit.
Zhiroo
Profile Joined February 2011
Kosovo2724 Posts
January 25 2012 01:44 GMT
#2053
On January 25 2012 10:37 LaNague wrote:
new champ, heimers best buddy?

http://euw.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=565521


I think he's gonna be some kind of rival seeing as the newspaper in the picture seems like Heim, who knows.
LoL EuW: Zhiroo - By starting this squabble you've proven nothing but how vast your stupidity is.
LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
January 25 2012 01:47 GMT
#2054
On January 25 2012 10:44 Zhiroo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2012 10:37 LaNague wrote:
new champ, heimers best buddy?

http://euw.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=565521


I think he's gonna be some kind of rival seeing as the newspaper in the picture seems like Heim, who knows.


arent yordles all just a happy family?

except veigar.
Zhiroo
Profile Joined February 2011
Kosovo2724 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-25 01:54:21
January 25 2012 01:52 GMT
#2055
On January 25 2012 10:47 LaNague wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2012 10:44 Zhiroo wrote:
On January 25 2012 10:37 LaNague wrote:
new champ, heimers best buddy?

http://euw.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=565521


I think he's gonna be some kind of rival seeing as the newspaper in the picture seems like Heim, who knows.


arent yordles all just a happy family?

except veigar.


Maybe this guy isn't* part of the happy family? :D I didn't think rival as in him being a bad guy just like they're both inventors and Heim is more acknowledged or whatever for the sake of lore.

Edit: meant isn't not is :D
LoL EuW: Zhiroo - By starting this squabble you've proven nothing but how vast your stupidity is.
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
January 25 2012 01:56 GMT
#2056
On January 25 2012 10:40 Abenson wrote:
Yay, I'm now out of elo heaven and hovering somewhere in the 1100's after tryharding a bit.

Dude, 1100s are elo heaven.

Everyone is bad enough that you can just straight carry by just being better, farming, and buying a warmogs.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
Vei
Profile Joined March 2010
United States2845 Posts
January 25 2012 01:57 GMT
#2057
On January 25 2012 10:37 LaNague wrote:
new champ, heimers best buddy?

http://euw.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=565521

damn it, i was hoping it'd be some sexy girl assassin or caster or even tank. i have like 8200 ip and i never ever have ip banked like this and yordles are 0 cool -___—
www.justin.tv/veisc2 ~ 720p + commentary
Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
January 25 2012 02:03 GMT
#2058
On January 25 2012 10:44 Zhiroo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2012 10:37 LaNague wrote:
new champ, heimers best buddy?

http://euw.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=565521


I think he's gonna be some kind of rival seeing as the newspaper in the picture seems like Heim, who knows.
It's not Heimer in the newspaper, it's the new character. He looks like the Cheshire Cat with a toupee and glowing goggle-eyes.
[image loading]
They made it look like Heimer to try to trick you.
you gotta dance
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
January 25 2012 02:06 GMT
#2059
So I haven't seen a single Sejuani in forever. Is she really that bad, or haven't people just played her enough? To me she still seems useless apart from ulti which is potentially imba. I guess ulti bot just isn't good enough? he seems to me like a relatively weak jungler and a mediocre toplaner, but again I have barely even seen her
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Zhiroo
Profile Joined February 2011
Kosovo2724 Posts
January 25 2012 02:06 GMT
#2060
Heimers brother then? XD
LoL EuW: Zhiroo - By starting this squabble you've proven nothing but how vast your stupidity is.
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