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TieN.nS)
Profile Joined August 2003
United States2131 Posts
November 24 2011 22:15 GMT
#2121
Erh, flat-out best AoE AD carry is obviously Graves now. I like MF a lot though~
dnastyx
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States2707 Posts
November 24 2011 22:16 GMT
#2122
On November 25 2011 05:38 TieN.nS) wrote:
Best auto animation in the game, great damage, healing reduction, and strong AoE ult early game.


corki has a better auto animation.
Brees
Profile Joined January 2010
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
November 24 2011 22:27 GMT
#2123
corki is a way better aoe carry then graves atm
Brees on in
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
November 24 2011 22:36 GMT
#2124
On November 25 2011 07:11 Juicyfruit wrote:
MF is really strong 1v1 as an AD carry and does a lot of AoE damage and make it rain is really strong. That said, I think overall, Ezreal is a stronger pick if you want an AoE ult since he's more versatile.

Ez doesn't laugh while he presses R, it's not as good.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17281 Posts
November 24 2011 22:51 GMT
#2125
On November 25 2011 07:07 Ryuu314 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2011 06:57 Shifft wrote:
On November 25 2011 04:02 GreenManalishi wrote:
On November 25 2011 03:40 robertdinh wrote:
On November 25 2011 03:37 Woony wrote:
Group A:
Singapore & Germany

Group B:
Spain & Dignitas

Group C:
CDE & CLG

Group D:
Korea & France

Seems pretty obvious to me.


I predict the chinese team to win the whole thing ;P


Agreed, I think team IG is a lock to make it out of Group B.

That said, I think team Canada has a great shot, I hope the Elementz drama doesn't hurt the team too much.


Wait what Elementz drama? From what I heard there was no drama at all and he left CLG willingly because he got a job at Riot and wouldn't have time or wouldn't be allowed to compete in things. Was I misinformed?

first time i heard elementz got a job at riot. source?

it's all a big rumor atm
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NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
November 24 2011 23:16 GMT
#2126
Chauster says that they benched Elementz and picked up Doublelift because CLG is buckling down and taking tournaments more seriously. Elementz was falling behind, etc.

As for Elementz joining Riot, CLG hasn't heard about that, so it's not part of their roster decision.
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DrKlingmann
Profile Joined December 2010
Poland356 Posts
November 24 2011 23:36 GMT
#2127
On November 25 2011 03:37 Woony wrote:
Group A:
Singapore & Germany

Seems pretty obvious to me.


Germany may have generally better players then Poland.. But actually team Acer is not necessarily better then GBT. Just FYI.
It's more like a coin flip here... or maybe even in GBT favor.

I wouldn't actually say about any of the groups that it's easy to select winners. Prolly C is most obvious and D as 2nd there.
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BlueBird.
Profile Joined August 2008
United States3890 Posts
November 24 2011 23:43 GMT
#2128
On November 25 2011 08:16 NeoIllusions wrote:
Chauster says that they benched Elementz and picked up Doublelift because CLG is buckling down and taking tournaments more seriously. Elementz was falling behind, etc.

As for Elementz joining Riot, CLG hasn't heard about that, so it's not part of their roster decision.


It's hard not to when there is something like 5 million on the line. -_-

Hope their decision works out for them.
Currently Playing: Android Netrunner, Gwent, Gloomhaven, Board Games
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
November 24 2011 23:54 GMT
#2129
Elementz actually has actually improved while jiji has become worse, dunno why to bench ele instead of jiji.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
Perplex
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1693 Posts
November 24 2011 23:55 GMT
#2130
On November 25 2011 07:15 TieN.nS) wrote:
Erh, flat-out best AoE AD carry is obviously Graves now. I like MF a lot though~


Even after the nerfs? I think corki is a stronger pick if you want an aoe ad..
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JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
November 24 2011 23:57 GMT
#2131
Lol @ people talking about best AoE AD carry and no one mentions sivir who hands down does the most aoe damage.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
57 Corvette
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada5941 Posts
November 25 2011 00:00 GMT
#2132
Is there a tier list or something similar of which characters have the best AA animations?

I can understand melees have better animation because there is no delay in the projectile hitting the target, but is there a list of best/worse anywhere?

(Karthus #1 worse)
Survival is winning, everything else is bullshit.
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
November 25 2011 00:03 GMT
#2133
Bad ones of the top of my head are soraka, swain (his hitch drives me crazy), morde, and anivia.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
November 25 2011 00:03 GMT
#2134
Lebonk animation is really smooth.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14104 Posts
November 25 2011 00:03 GMT
#2135
Saint vicious vs HSGG grudge match. If thats not a rigged bracket to make sure that happened I don't know what is.

Will allow them to decide who's right in all their arguments.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
taLbuk
Profile Joined April 2010
Madagascar1879 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-25 00:05:00
November 25 2011 00:04 GMT
#2136
On November 25 2011 08:54 JackDino wrote:
Elementz actually has actually improved while jiji has become worse, dunno why to bench ele instead of jiji.


elementz is the worst mechanical player of the team, i'd argue that he only "improved" because we saw him making decent plays while jiji and chauster were not doing so well. not to mention jiji is basically the captain so ya

edit: at the dude above me i really hope your being facetious lol
Alzadar
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada5009 Posts
November 25 2011 00:04 GMT
#2137
On November 25 2011 09:00 57 Corvette wrote:
Is there a tier list or something similar of which characters have the best AA animations?

I can understand melees have better animation because there is no delay in the projectile hitting the target, but is there a list of best/worse anywhere?

(Karthus #1 worse)


Fiddlesticks and Soraka?

I think the best had to be between Caitlyn and Ezreal, both are very responsive, short animations and very fast projectiles.
I am the Town Medic.
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
November 25 2011 00:06 GMT
#2138
No Elementz actually improved because he stepped up from his loltibbers ult to having clutch silences and ults depending on what he plays and not being terrible in general.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
BlackMagister
Profile Joined October 2008
United States5834 Posts
November 25 2011 00:25 GMT
#2139
Chaox running ad sona with Xpecial doing support Caitlyn for TSM in ranked 5s.
sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
November 25 2011 00:25 GMT
#2140
Anivia AA makes me want to hang myself. I think MF is my fav.
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