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LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
August 13 2011 17:48 GMT
#681
from the great minds that brought you Kayle Revamp:

Poppy's late game burst damage is really out of line at the moment, but she can easily get shut down by a strong opposing lane. We're looking to normalize these a bit by strengthening her early game but weakening her late game.



Riot on a Crusade to make the champions as boring as possible.
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
August 13 2011 17:52 GMT
#682
On August 14 2011 02:48 LaNague wrote:
from the great minds that brought you Kayle Revamp:

Show nested quote +
Poppy's late game burst damage is really out of line at the moment, but she can easily get shut down by a strong opposing lane. We're looking to normalize these a bit by strengthening her early game but weakening her late game.



Riot on a Crusade to make the champions as boring as possible.

Lolol I guess veigars on the chopping block too then rofl.

Riot homogenizing all champs wtf
STS17
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1817 Posts
August 13 2011 17:55 GMT
#683
I think having champions that are super good in the late game but pretty weak in the early game is actually a good thing. We have champions that are the opposite (good early, meh late) so why should we not have these as well?

Yeah Poppy is insane late game, able to kill just about anything within the duration of her ult (sometimes two people) but it's not horribly difficult to prevent her from doing that.
Platinum Level Terran - Take my advice from that perspective
LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
August 13 2011 18:00 GMT
#684
On August 14 2011 02:52 Ryuu314 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2011 02:48 LaNague wrote:
from the great minds that brought you Kayle Revamp:

Poppy's late game burst damage is really out of line at the moment, but she can easily get shut down by a strong opposing lane. We're looking to normalize these a bit by strengthening her early game but weakening her late game.



Riot on a Crusade to make the champions as boring as possible.

Lolol I guess veigars on the chopping block too then rofl.

Riot homogenizing all champs wtf



didnt they told as a few weeks ago they want to remake nasus and veigar?
also, inb4 jax passive change.
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
August 13 2011 18:19 GMT
#685
On August 14 2011 03:00 LaNague wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2011 02:52 Ryuu314 wrote:
On August 14 2011 02:48 LaNague wrote:
from the great minds that brought you Kayle Revamp:

Poppy's late game burst damage is really out of line at the moment, but she can easily get shut down by a strong opposing lane. We're looking to normalize these a bit by strengthening her early game but weakening her late game.



Riot on a Crusade to make the champions as boring as possible.

Lolol I guess veigars on the chopping block too then rofl.

Riot homogenizing all champs wtf



didnt they told as a few weeks ago they want to remake nasus and veigar?
also, inb4 jax passive change.

The nasus veigar remake was targeted at their perpetual scaling q's. I was more referring to the whole late game insane burst weak early game thing
cascades
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Singapore6122 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-13 18:36:53
August 13 2011 18:35 GMT
#686
On August 14 2011 02:48 LaNague wrote:
from the great minds that brought you Kayle Revamp:

Show nested quote +
Poppy's late game burst damage is really out of line at the moment, but she can easily get shut down by a strong opposing lane. We're looking to normalize these a bit by strengthening her early game but weakening her late game.



Riot on a Crusade to make the champions as boring as possible.


Nah pretty sure this one is to balance her in Dominion. Pretty sure Poppy es #1 on that map if there are any walls. Confirm/deny Moonbear/Daniel?
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cascades
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Singapore6122 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-13 18:38:40
August 13 2011 18:37 GMT
#687
On August 13 2011 23:05 Iplaythings wrote:
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On August 13 2011 22:13 tyCe wrote:
On August 13 2011 18:36 Irave wrote:
Haven't seen it mentioned yet with the MLG hype. CLG will be down Jiji, he won't be attending.

Whaaat? Why?

He'll be at PAX

inb4 CLG still win (lol as if),

EG HWAITINGGG


Is CLG really not trying to persuade jiji to go to MLG instead? Elementz not going to cut it.
HS: cascades#1595 || LoL: stoppin
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
August 13 2011 18:41 GMT
#688
On August 14 2011 03:37 cascades wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2011 23:05 Iplaythings wrote:
On August 13 2011 22:13 tyCe wrote:
On August 13 2011 18:36 Irave wrote:
Haven't seen it mentioned yet with the MLG hype. CLG will be down Jiji, he won't be attending.

Whaaat? Why?

He'll be at PAX

inb4 CLG still win (lol as if),

EG HWAITINGGG


Is CLG really not trying to persuade jiji to go to MLG instead? Elementz not going to cut it.

???

Chauster can play a mean ad carry, and Ele can play a fairly decent ap carry. Stick Kobe and have saint and hs switch up tanky dps and support and they will be fine.

I dont really know why people assume elementz is the big problem on clg.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
dnastyx
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States2707 Posts
August 13 2011 18:44 GMT
#689
I dont really know why people assume elementz is the big problem on clg.


Can't play support. Not nearly as good as the other AP carry players (Salce, Regi, Pobelter).
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-13 18:49:18
August 13 2011 18:47 GMT
#690
On August 14 2011 03:41 Two_DoWn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2011 03:37 cascades wrote:
On August 13 2011 23:05 Iplaythings wrote:
On August 13 2011 22:13 tyCe wrote:
On August 13 2011 18:36 Irave wrote:
Haven't seen it mentioned yet with the MLG hype. CLG will be down Jiji, he won't be attending.

Whaaat? Why?

He'll be at PAX

inb4 CLG still win (lol as if),

EG HWAITINGGG


Is CLG really not trying to persuade jiji to go to MLG instead? Elementz not going to cut it.

???

Chauster can play a mean ad carry, and Ele can play a fairly decent ap carry. Stick Kobe and have saint and hs switch up tanky dps and support and they will be fine.

I dont really know why people assume elementz is the big problem on clg.

After I saw Elementz play Annie in CLG, I'm pretty sure I know why people would assume that.

HSGG support is awful, it's going to be Chauster on support if they want a decent player there, and then we're left with... left with what? If HSGG or saint support, they're going to do awful, Kobe and HSGG can play AP carry somewhat, but really... without Jiji CLG is going to get crushed by even RS. They can't afford to lose Jiji, anyone else would be okay.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
August 13 2011 19:09 GMT
#691
On August 14 2011 03:41 Two_DoWn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2011 03:37 cascades wrote:
On August 13 2011 23:05 Iplaythings wrote:
On August 13 2011 22:13 tyCe wrote:
On August 13 2011 18:36 Irave wrote:
Haven't seen it mentioned yet with the MLG hype. CLG will be down Jiji, he won't be attending.

Whaaat? Why?

He'll be at PAX

inb4 CLG still win (lol as if),

EG HWAITINGGG


Is CLG really not trying to persuade jiji to go to MLG instead? Elementz not going to cut it.

???

Chauster can play a mean ad carry, and Ele can play a fairly decent ap carry. Stick Kobe and have saint and hs switch up tanky dps and support and they will be fine.

I dont really know why people assume elementz is the big problem on clg.

Chauster and Saint were saying on stream 2 days ago that they need to find a 5th for WCG because Kobe has been inactive. I assume that problem would carry over to MLG if jiji isn't going.
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cascades
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Singapore6122 Posts
August 13 2011 19:10 GMT
#692
On August 14 2011 03:47 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2011 03:41 Two_DoWn wrote:
On August 14 2011 03:37 cascades wrote:
On August 13 2011 23:05 Iplaythings wrote:
On August 13 2011 22:13 tyCe wrote:
On August 13 2011 18:36 Irave wrote:
Haven't seen it mentioned yet with the MLG hype. CLG will be down Jiji, he won't be attending.

Whaaat? Why?

He'll be at PAX

inb4 CLG still win (lol as if),

EG HWAITINGGG


Is CLG really not trying to persuade jiji to go to MLG instead? Elementz not going to cut it.

???

Chauster can play a mean ad carry, and Ele can play a fairly decent ap carry. Stick Kobe and have saint and hs switch up tanky dps and support and they will be fine.

I dont really know why people assume elementz is the big problem on clg.

After I saw Elementz play Annie in CLG, I'm pretty sure I know why people would assume that.

HSGG support is awful, it's going to be Chauster on support if they want a decent player there, and then we're left with... left with what? If HSGG or saint support, they're going to do awful, Kobe and HSGG can play AP carry somewhat, but really... without Jiji CLG is going to get crushed by even RS. They can't afford to lose Jiji, anyone else would be okay.


Don't forget his cow that cant land QW combos either.
HS: cascades#1595 || LoL: stoppin
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17303 Posts
August 13 2011 19:12 GMT
#693
You guys really don't keep up with CLG very well.

Elementz is the support player now, Chauster is AD, HotshotGG is some kind of solo, SV jungles. They used Salce as AP and Jiji as AD during practice games for that thing coming up (ESL?). They could use do the same thing.
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-13 19:15:47
August 13 2011 19:13 GMT
#694
On August 14 2011 04:12 Craton wrote:
You guys really don't keep up with CLG very well.

Elementz is the support player now, Chauster is AD, HotshotGG is some kind of solo, SV jungles. They used Salce as AP and Jiji as AD during practice games for that thing coming up (ESL?). They could use do the same thing.

They can't use Salce at MLG because EG is actually in MLG (they're not at Gamescom, which is why they got Salce to sub for Chauster), meaning Salce is going to play for them.

And while they make Elementz play support, it's sort of apparent he doesn't really want to be, and is not very good at it.
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Phrost
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States4008 Posts
August 13 2011 19:26 GMT
#695
Greetings xxxxxxx,

Certain in-Game activity on your account has been found to be in violation of the Summoner’s Code by the Tribunal.

The most common cause for this warning is either harassment or disruption of gameplay (intentional feeding, etc.). Bear in mind that the definition of harassment can range from direct, overt verbal harassment, to intentionally creating an unpleasant gameplay environment.

This is a friendly warning to encourage you to respect the Summoner's Code and contribute to the community in a positive light.

Thanks for your understanding, and best of luck on the Fields of Justice!


This is what i get for playing ranked all day yesterday >_>
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freelander
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Hungary4707 Posts
August 13 2011 19:33 GMT
#696
On August 14 2011 02:01 Tooplark wrote:
My win music
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can we be buraiburu brothers?
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i listened to this song for half a year l0l

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sRapers_ValkS
Profile Joined August 2009
United States644 Posts
August 13 2011 19:34 GMT
#697
The truth of the matter is that none of them play support because they're all solo queue stars who got to the top by playing carries =/

IMO, they should pick up PGB (is he on a team?) have saint jungle, chauster on AD carry, hotshot and elementz solo.
HPoirot
Profile Joined June 2011
United States1303 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-13 19:35:50
August 13 2011 19:35 GMT
#698
Pretty good SK vs. Millennium game going on right now. Yellowstar's Kog'maw is nice.

On August 14 2011 04:34 sRapers_ValkS wrote:
IMO, they should pick up PGB (is he on a team?) have saint jungle, chauster on AD carry, hotshot and elementz solo.

PGB replaced Doublelift on EG.
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
August 13 2011 19:39 GMT
#699
On August 12 2011 11:47 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2011 11:17 UniversalSnip wrote:
rather buy wits end every time

They're not mutually exclusive. In fact, both TheOddOne and Jatt get Wit's on Phoenix Udyr but neither rush it, because it's impractical. What item are you starting with that's a Wit's End part? How are you getting to bluepill with Recurve money on your first few clears without some luck in getting good ganks? Wriggle's and its parts keep your early game money spent and pay back in the improved jungle speed/sustainability. It's not comparable to or replaceable by Wit's End in any way.


wriggles really doesn't help pheonix udyr much in any way at all, if you need sustain you can just buy a philo and he does perfectly well vs majors creeps without it
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0123456789
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3216 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-13 20:27:05
August 13 2011 19:39 GMT
#700
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