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Caphe
Vietnam10817 Posts
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BlackPaladin
United States9316 Posts
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Two_DoWn
United States13684 Posts
On May 12 2011 14:41 LoCicero wrote: % True Damage, good idea or best idea? Meh. 8% of 2k is 160. And you need to hit a target 3 times in a row. Which means if you dont build attack speed and focus the same target, the overall effect is fairly underwhelming. | ||
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spinesheath
Germany8679 Posts
But... WTF Bloodrazor + Phantom Dancer? Really? How about, you know, something that makes sense? Imo something like Black Cleaver + Sword of the Divine would make a lot more sense. 90% ASpd, 75 APen. Here you can even follow up with a Phantom Dancer without feeling stupid because you have the AD/APen to back up the CritChance. | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On May 12 2011 15:26 Two_DoWn wrote: Meh. 8% of 2k is 160. And you need to hit a target 3 times in a row. Which means if you dont build attack speed and focus the same target, the overall effect is fairly underwhelming. Don't forget you're also doing flat true damage (70 at rank 5) in addition to the % HP based true damage. Lets say you're vs a 3k HP target with 150 armor, and that you have 30 armor pen (so effective 120 armor). That means the % true damage component is doing 240 damage, and the total is 310, which is an average of about +100 damage on each attack. Factor in the fact that it's unmitigated, and it gives a similar amount of damage increase that having 200 flat, non-true damage AD would give. That's not underwhelming by any means. Putting this in perspective, Tristana's Q is about 2400g worth of steroid power about 33% of the time. Vayne's W is realistically worth between 3300g (vs a squishy target with 70 armor and 2k HP) and 6600g (vs a tanky target with 150 armor and 3k HP) worth of steroid power all the time (or at least whenever you can chain 3 attacks on a target). | ||
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Kaniol
Poland5551 Posts
On May 12 2011 15:25 BlackPaladin wrote: Only good tenacity item to me is the miracle one for supports. The others are just subpar. I disagree. Mercury threads = awesome tenacity item HUEHUEHUE On May 12 2011 16:01 spinesheath wrote: I agree that building ASpd on Vayne might work out. But... WTF Bloodrazor + Phantom Dancer? Really? How about, you know, something that makes sense? Imo something like Black Cleaver + Sword of the Divine would make a lot more sense. 90% ASpd, 75 APen. Here you can even follow up with a Phantom Dancer without feeling stupid because you have the AD/APen to back up the CritChance. Oh come on, if wicked uses BR+PD then it has to be imba. Afterall it's wicked who tried to popularize full aspd no defense irelia and it's imba build right? Oh wait, it really isn't | ||
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BlackPaladin
United States9316 Posts
On May 12 2011 17:25 Kaniol wrote: I disagree. Mercury threads = awesome tenacity item HUEHUEHUE trolled But yeah, out of the 3 non-merc tread items. edit: Speaking of trolling. Before bed my friend (Accelerant - he's a TLer too ;o) and I spent an hour just trolling these 3 kids in a co-op vs bot game. All I did all game was farm and do nothing but farm. If they wanted to push "okay, i farm." Cait nerd raged and then rq. nunu quit. Then ez nerd raged, quit, came back, raged some more, and did this like 3 times before rq for the last time. Accel and I just 2v5ed. End result. 633 cs. Best hour of LoL in my life. That cait and ez were the most tryhard co-op players i've ever met. lol And they were all lvl 30's which made it that much funnier. Greaaatttt stress reliever. If you rage from ranked or normals, seriously, try it sometime! :D Oh and it's even more fun if you can make your friend scared that you're actually going to lose said bot game. lol I purposely died 1v4 once just to make him sweat.  That's what you get for getting scared.http://i.imgur.com/RE3fc.png | ||
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JackDino
Gabon6219 Posts
On May 12 2011 17:29 BlackPaladin wrote: trolled But yeah, out of the 3 non-merc tread items. edit: Speaking of trolling. Before bed my friend (Accelerant - he's a TLer too ;o) and I spent an hour just trolling these 3 kids in a co-op vs bot game. All I did all game was farm and do nothing but farm. If they wanted to push "okay, i farm." Cait nerd raged and then rq. nunu quit. Then ez nerd raged, quit, came back, raged some more, and did this like 3 times before rq for the last time. Accel and I just 2v5ed. End result. 633 cs. Best hour of LoL in my life. That cait and ez were the most tryhard co-op players i've ever met. lol And they were all lvl 30's which made it that much funnier. Greaaatttt stress reliever. If you rage from ranked or normals, seriously, try it sometime! :D http://i.imgur.com/RE3fc.png Trolling normals albeit harder is much more fun. | ||
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BlackPaladin
United States9316 Posts
On May 12 2011 18:49 JackDino wrote: Trolling normals albeit harder is much more fun. "If you rage from ranked or normals........" | ||
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JackDino
Gabon6219 Posts
On May 12 2011 18:54 BlackPaladin wrote: "If you rage from ranked or normals........" The point was that if you do troll normals you shouldn't be raging unless you're a horrible horrible person. | ||
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dnastyx
United States2707 Posts
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Haemonculus
United States6980 Posts
On May 12 2011 14:41 LoCicero wrote: % True Damage, good idea or best idea? Yeah uh... what do you build vs that? Health regen? Come to lane with like 3+ potions? Armor, MR, health, all kinda useless vs that t.t; | ||
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Tooplark
United States3977 Posts
and QSS to remove the rings when you have 2 :O | ||
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Zato-1
Chile4253 Posts
On May 12 2011 14:41 LoCicero wrote: % True Damage, good idea or best idea? Best idea to make tanks rage. "Okay, so how do I itemize against Vayne..." | ||
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BouBou.865
Netherlands814 Posts
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Tooplark
United States3977 Posts
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Flakes
United States3125 Posts
Popping unbreakable will at 8% used to be a good save, now it means you get one-shotted | ||
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Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
On May 13 2011 00:14 Tooplark wrote: Justification for true damage: POPPY. I disagree. Justification for removing Poppy from the game: POPPY. | ||
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ZERG_RUSSIAN
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locodoco
Korea (South)1615 Posts
On May 13 2011 01:42 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote: I'm a fan of the attackspeed builds on Vayne, I don't think that sheen business belongs with her skillset. sheen has perfect synergy with just tumble alone | ||
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