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dnastyx
United States2707 Posts
On May 08 2011 09:00 Crucifix wrote: EU pretty much rapes the shit out of US recently :} Like today's SK vs CLG  Sup I heard there was this match today called TSM v Team Poland. | ||
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UniversalSnip
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Niton
United States2395 Posts
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HeadhunteR
Argentina1258 Posts
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cascades
Singapore6122 Posts
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spinesheath
Germany8679 Posts
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Goshawk.
United Kingdom5338 Posts
On May 08 2011 14:22 dnastyx wrote: Sup I heard there was this match today called TSM v Team Poland. Sup I heard Team Poland has no good/high ELO players on it. | ||
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crate
United States2474 Posts
![[image loading]](http://i51.tinypic.com/whjhqp.png) Fun game ... we poked them down hard enough to win 4v5 at their turrets after we outplayed them in laning. Probably wouldn't have been as fun if Mundo had actually connected. | ||
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scottyyy
United Kingdom796 Posts
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Senx
Sweden5901 Posts
Some things i've learned from these games, maybe others at this bracket can find it interesting: Most common bans for quite some time have been: Kassadin/Malz/Nocturne and Shen/Renek for 4th. If you're 1st pick try to ban the champions that may give you trouble in YOUR lane, say you aim to play ryze - focus your bans around strong AP carries that are hard for you to play against, like vlad/brand/malz. You always gotta have the mindset that you're gonna carry the shit out of the game - don't EVER rely on your team to carry you, thats not gonna happen. So try your hardest to pick champions that have a greater effect on the game - AP/Jungle and Top. Always look to play Jarvan or Ryze for top/mid respectively - these champions are bat shit retarded OP'd and I have no idea why people don't ban them more often. Never play early game/push junglers like shaco/yi or nunu - people don't know how to manage their lanes or how to play in order to make a gank work. Early game advantage is easily thrown away at this ELO so don't risk it. Split pushing is also a foreign concept. WW is the safest pick since he scales better and his ult is on a pretty short CD which makes u able to completely shut down a lane if you want to. Nocturne is often banned but get him too if possible. Don't play alistar, seriously you don't know how to roam, nor do you know what your're supposed to do in team fights, and why the fuck are you building AP when we have no tank? Recent Alistar hype is really fucking annoying because that champ requries A) a player with good timing and game sense and B) a bot lane partner that is actually reliable when you go aggressive (IE very rarely) Don't play katarina or jax, seriously.. just because you pub stomped a normal with these champs doesn't mean they work in ranked. People counter pick and know how to shut them down. I've never come across a kat or jax who had ANY part in a teams win - its more often a part of the reason as to why they lost. Pick guidelines: 1st pick. AP carry 2nd pick AP/Top - decide with your 1st pick. 3-5th pick: Jungler. But if you must: AD/support. Ive rarely come across a AD carry or support who actually carried the game - they rely too heavily on their team to really shine. So I'd suggest having these 2 archetypes as your "last picks". These are very specific things ive learned and im sure some higher elo players will laugh at this but this is what ive found gives you the greatest chance of success at this elo bracket. --- Quick shoutout to HeavOnEarth for explaining good pick strats. | ||
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spinesheath
Germany8679 Posts
Ranged AD can carry really hard right now because IE is just that good. | ||
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unichan
United States4223 Posts
Also Jarvan is so gud bot lane with a support that gets him all the last hits, janna + jarvan cc combo lets them completely rape their lane and keel many times without dying. I don't know why everyone says Jarvan solo, it's so much better to just have your AP/AD carries solo zzzzz Kat is still a good last pick if they have no hard CC that will kill your ult, most idiots still don't know what to do against her, especially in lane, and she can still stomp her way to tripal quadrapal penta keeellzz I think nunu is fine cuz if you can shut down their jungler AND every lane (which nunu can do) you can put pressure on every lane so even if someone is losing they can be less losing (maybe even get a kill if they're unretarded enough). And the jungler can't gank if you're counter-jungling them hard enough so they can't pressure your fellow retards either. Laning is so important in low elo, no one knows how to team fight there, they just run in and LULZ LULZ LULZ everywhere with zero focus so it just comes down to which idiot is stronger/haz better items which translates into who won their lane. | ||
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Senx
Sweden5901 Posts
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Kaniol
Poland5551 Posts
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Senx
Sweden5901 Posts
On May 08 2011 23:17 Kaniol wrote: TBH if you managed to somehow convince your allies to give you top as an AD carry you could dominate so hard. But no, shen HAS to take it obviously. Just to lose it after his first ulti Thats the REAL eu meta right there, shen top with teleport. Funny to play cho/garen against that and silence him when he tries to ult right infront of you, trololol. | ||
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-Kato-
Spain1146 Posts
On May 08 2011 23:02 unichan wrote: Are you european, I play at 1400-1500 and don't see those bans (kass and malz? lol no one even plays them) Whaaat? I play 1600 EU and kass and malz are perma 1st and 2nd bans. Don't ban them and you're screwed. Then its Noc/Shen/Ren. | ||
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unichan
United States4223 Posts
On May 08 2011 23:22 -Kato- wrote: Whaaat? I play 1600 EU and kass and malz are perma 1st and 2nd bans. Don't ban them and you're screwed. Then its Noc/Shen/Ren. Oh I meant if he's EU cause I'm not EU u know it say I am the american u know ya | ||
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spinesheath
Germany8679 Posts
On May 08 2011 23:22 -Kato- wrote: Whaaat? I play 1600 EU and kass and malz are perma 1st and 2nd bans. Don't ban them and you're screwed. Then its Noc/Shen/Ren. This is precisely because you end up with underfarmed and especially underleveled ranged AD in the bottom lane. Kass is not nearly as scary when he doesn't have a 2-3 level advantage on your ranged AD. It has been like that on EU for months btw. | ||
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Tooplark
United States3977 Posts
![[image loading]](http://i52.tinypic.com/21j3rs2.jpg) The best part: Blaze solo-ganks Rumble in top while we're off doing our own thing. He nearly kills Rumble when Fiddle and Ashe I think show up. He eats an Arrow, a Fear and Karthus ult, finishes off Rumble, outdamages and outlifesteals Drain, then hops on Ashe and 4shots her. | ||
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BluzMan
Russian Federation4235 Posts
Jax is retardedly powerful if people play/pick wrong against him. | ||
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