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dnastyx
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States2707 Posts
May 08 2011 05:22 GMT
#14261
On May 08 2011 09:00 Crucifix wrote:
EU pretty much rapes the shit out of US recently :} Like today's SK vs CLG


Sup I heard there was this match today called TSM v Team Poland.
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
May 08 2011 05:30 GMT
#14262
sigh my Fierce Fighter Nid build was real bad... malady not a good nid item lol.
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
Niton
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2395 Posts
May 08 2011 06:32 GMT
#14263
Carrying's actually pretty fun when you know what you're doing with your champ.. I just wish I could do it on an AD or AP champ instead of a tank/support. Pretty sure I could manage to lose mid vs a 400 Elo player.
tree.hugger: Coming off of [(T)fantasy v. (T)Really] into [(T)Barracks v. (T)MVP] is like coming out of Manhattan into New Jersey. You just have to speed up and ignore it.
HeadhunteR
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Argentina1258 Posts
May 08 2011 08:14 GMT
#14264
I just got my ass handed to me by a Tynd and soraka combo. Tynd had movementspeed runes and Soraka had a stacked mejias full ap build that healed by 1535 hp and Alistar was also on the team. No THORNMAIL can stop that. TF and katarina were also in but they didnt surprise me as much as these motherfuckers did.
in The Kong line forever
cascades
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Singapore6122 Posts
May 08 2011 10:25 GMT
#14265
a EXEC'S CALLING sure can.
HS: cascades#1595 || LoL: stoppin
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
May 08 2011 10:57 GMT
#14266
Add a Randuin's Omen and a Frozen Heart and you're good.
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
Goshawk.
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United Kingdom5338 Posts
May 08 2011 12:46 GMT
#14267
On May 08 2011 14:22 dnastyx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2011 09:00 Crucifix wrote:
EU pretty much rapes the shit out of US recently :} Like today's SK vs CLG


Sup I heard there was this match today called TSM v Team Poland.


Sup I heard Team Poland has no good/high ELO players on it.
crate
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States2474 Posts
May 08 2011 12:47 GMT
#14268
[image loading]

Fun game ... we poked them down hard enough to win 4v5 at their turrets after we outplayed them in laning. Probably wouldn't have been as fun if Mundo had actually connected.
We did. You did. Yes we can. No. || http://crawl.akrasiac.org/scoring/players/crate.html || twitch.tv/crate3333
scottyyy
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United Kingdom796 Posts
May 08 2011 13:03 GMT
#14269
wow I just installed a colour blind mod for this and now the game is 100x more playable. Who would've thought creeps were different colours on the two teams? I had no idea.
Senx
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Sweden5901 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-08 16:11:09
May 08 2011 13:44 GMT
#14270
So after grinding the 14-1500 bracket for quite a while i finally hit 1600..

Some things i've learned from these games, maybe others at this bracket can find it interesting:

Most common bans for quite some time have been: Kassadin/Malz/Nocturne and Shen/Renek for 4th.

If you're 1st pick try to ban the champions that may give you trouble in YOUR lane, say you aim to play ryze - focus your bans around strong AP carries that are hard for you to play against, like vlad/brand/malz.

You always gotta have the mindset that you're gonna carry the shit out of the game - don't EVER rely on your team to carry you, thats not gonna happen. So try your hardest to pick champions that have a greater effect on the game - AP/Jungle and Top.

Always look to play Jarvan or Ryze for top/mid respectively - these champions are bat shit retarded OP'd and I have no idea why people don't ban them more often.

Never play early game/push junglers like shaco/yi or nunu - people don't know how to manage their lanes or how to play in order to make a gank work. Early game advantage is easily thrown away at this ELO so don't risk it. Split pushing is also a foreign concept.

WW is the safest pick since he scales better and his ult is on a pretty short CD which makes u able to completely shut down a lane if you want to. Nocturne is often banned but get him too if possible.

Don't play alistar, seriously you don't know how to roam, nor do you know what your're supposed to do in team fights, and why the fuck are you building AP when we have no tank?
Recent Alistar hype is really fucking annoying because that champ requries
A) a player with good timing and game sense and
B) a bot lane partner that is actually reliable when you go aggressive (IE very rarely)

Don't play katarina or jax, seriously.. just because you pub stomped a normal with these champs doesn't mean they work in ranked. People counter pick and know how to shut them down.
I've never come across a kat or jax who had ANY part in a teams win - its more often a part of the reason as to why they lost.

Pick guidelines:
1st pick. AP carry
2nd pick AP/Top - decide with your 1st pick.
3-5th pick: Jungler. But if you must: AD/support.

Ive rarely come across a AD carry or support who actually carried the game - they rely too heavily on their team to really shine. So I'd suggest having these 2 archetypes as your "last picks".

These are very specific things ive learned and im sure some higher elo players will laugh at this but this is what ive found gives you the greatest chance of success at this elo bracket.

---

Quick shoutout to HeavOnEarth for explaining good pick strats.
"trash micro but win - its marine" MC commentary during HSC 4
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
May 08 2011 14:01 GMT
#14271
You are talking about EU I guess? No wonder you don't see ranged AD carrying, the meta makes it kinda unlikely.
Ranged AD can carry really hard right now because IE is just that good.
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
unichan
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States4223 Posts
May 08 2011 14:02 GMT
#14272
Are you european, I play at 1400-1500 and don't see those bans (kass and malz? lol no one even plays them)

Also Jarvan is so gud bot lane with a support that gets him all the last hits, janna + jarvan cc combo lets them completely rape their lane and keel many times without dying. I don't know why everyone says Jarvan solo, it's so much better to just have your AP/AD carries solo zzzzz

Kat is still a good last pick if they have no hard CC that will kill your ult, most idiots still don't know what to do against her, especially in lane, and she can still stomp her way to tripal quadrapal penta keeellzz

I think nunu is fine cuz if you can shut down their jungler AND every lane (which nunu can do) you can put pressure on every lane so even if someone is losing they can be less losing (maybe even get a kill if they're unretarded enough). And the jungler can't gank if you're counter-jungling them hard enough so they can't pressure your fellow retards either.

Laning is so important in low elo, no one knows how to team fight there, they just run in and LULZ LULZ LULZ everywhere with zero focus so it just comes down to which idiot is stronger/haz better items which translates into who won their lane.
:)
Senx
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Sweden5901 Posts
May 08 2011 14:11 GMT
#14273
Yeah this is on EU. Its clearly vastly different from the US playstyle, so can't really argue any points. This is what works best on EU, in this bracket.
"trash micro but win - its marine" MC commentary during HSC 4
Kaniol
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Poland5551 Posts
May 08 2011 14:17 GMT
#14274
TBH if you managed to somehow convince your allies to give you top as an AD carry you could dominate so hard. But no, shen HAS to take it obviously. Just to lose it after his first ulti
Senx
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Sweden5901 Posts
May 08 2011 14:21 GMT
#14275
On May 08 2011 23:17 Kaniol wrote:
TBH if you managed to somehow convince your allies to give you top as an AD carry you could dominate so hard. But no, shen HAS to take it obviously. Just to lose it after his first ulti


Thats the REAL eu meta right there, shen top with teleport. Funny to play cho/garen against that and silence him when he tries to ult right infront of you, trololol.
"trash micro but win - its marine" MC commentary during HSC 4
-Kato-
Profile Joined June 2010
Spain1146 Posts
May 08 2011 14:22 GMT
#14276
On May 08 2011 23:02 unichan wrote:
Are you european, I play at 1400-1500 and don't see those bans (kass and malz? lol no one even plays them)


Whaaat? I play 1600 EU and kass and malz are perma 1st and 2nd bans. Don't ban them and you're screwed. Then its Noc/Shen/Ren.
unichan
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States4223 Posts
May 08 2011 14:24 GMT
#14277
On May 08 2011 23:22 -Kato- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2011 23:02 unichan wrote:
Are you european, I play at 1400-1500 and don't see those bans (kass and malz? lol no one even plays them)


Whaaat? I play 1600 EU and kass and malz are perma 1st and 2nd bans. Don't ban them and you're screwed. Then its Noc/Shen/Ren.

Oh I meant if he's EU cause I'm not EU u know it say I am the american u know ya
:)
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
May 08 2011 14:25 GMT
#14278
On May 08 2011 23:22 -Kato- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2011 23:02 unichan wrote:
Are you european, I play at 1400-1500 and don't see those bans (kass and malz? lol no one even plays them)


Whaaat? I play 1600 EU and kass and malz are perma 1st and 2nd bans. Don't ban them and you're screwed. Then its Noc/Shen/Ren.

This is precisely because you end up with underfarmed and especially underleveled ranged AD in the bottom lane. Kass is not nearly as scary when he doesn't have a 2-3 level advantage on your ranged AD.

It has been like that on EU for months btw.
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
Tooplark
Profile Joined October 2008
United States3977 Posts
May 08 2011 14:45 GMT
#14279
[image loading]
The best part:
Blaze solo-ganks Rumble in top while we're off doing our own thing.
He nearly kills Rumble when Fiddle and Ashe I think show up. He eats an Arrow, a Fear and Karthus ult, finishes off Rumble, outdamages and outlifesteals Drain, then hops on Ashe and 4shots her.
WHAT POW'R ART THOU WHO FROM BELOW HAST MADE ME RISE UNWILLINGLY AND SLOW
BluzMan
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Russian Federation4235 Posts
May 08 2011 16:23 GMT
#14280
I got a quadra with Jax recently - I farm top peacefully, Kat and Ashe (extremely underfed) come to gank me, I eat ashe's ult, tank kat's ult with mine killing her, then finish ashe only to find GP and Sona coming to help, GP brings me to about 200 HP before dying and then full HP Sona helplessely watches her dying as GP ult ends and she deals no damage.

Jax is retardedly powerful if people play/pick wrong against him.
You want 20 good men, but you need a bad pussy.
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