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On May 07 2011 03:18 Southlight wrote:
I still think the full-screen Amumu hook (hook and flash landed same time so he moved max hook distance + flash distance to land where I landed post-flash) is gay though :[
huh? what does this have to do with projectile popping, lol?
On May 07 2011 03:23 Two_DoWn wrote:
Removing the projectile pop needed to happen. If only for the fact that it finally stopped all of the "flash op nerf nao" qq without destroying the spell.
I will forever maintain that it was a good decision independent of the PR implications of it. it simply made the spell too versatile and made everything else look like a stupid decision when you could've taken flash instead.
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On May 07 2011 03:41 Mogwai wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2011 03:18 Southlight wrote:
I still think the full-screen Amumu hook (hook and flash landed same time so he moved max hook distance + flash distance to land where I landed post-flash) is gay though :[ huh? what does this have to do with projectile popping, lol?
Because when projectile popping was there IIRC it was impossible for this to happen. You'd get stunned but leave him where you launched. Instead without popping he hitches a ride on your Flash bus and cross-screens :x
Edit:
Turkey's always around when I run into bizarre bugs, like Cait's E not actually bouncing me back when Swain uses lazerberd on me.
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The Locodoco incident happened probably 2 months ago. There was a great facepalm gif that came from his webcam of that incident.
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On May 07 2011 03:44 Southlight wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2011 03:41 Mogwai wrote:On May 07 2011 03:18 Southlight wrote:
I still think the full-screen Amumu hook (hook and flash landed same time so he moved max hook distance + flash distance to land where I landed post-flash) is gay though :[ huh? what does this have to do with projectile popping, lol? Because when projectile popping was there IIRC it was impossible for this to happen. You'd get stunned but leave him where you launched. Instead without popping he hitches a ride on your Flash bus and cross-screens :x
Flash earlier and you won't have this issue.
I find it much more annoying that Amumu can Bandage a Banshee's, still get pulled to the target and oh wonder: There is no Banshee's to stop his ult now.
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On May 07 2011 03:44 BloodNinja wrote:The Locodoco incident happened probably 2 months ago. There was a great facepalm gif that came from his webcam of that incident.
ohhh that's what the facepalm came from? anyway, wish he still streamed
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On May 07 2011 03:50 sRapers_ValkS wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2011 03:44 BloodNinja wrote:The Locodoco incident happened probably 2 months ago. There was a great facepalm gif that came from his webcam of that incident. ohhh that's what the facepalm came from? anyway, wish he still streamed
He has had a couple of them. So there are prob more recent ones that were created.
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Flash popping projectiles made anyone whose ult was a projectile significantly weaker.
Remember when the main reason no one played Veigar was because the summoner spell that EVERYONE took completely nullified his ultimate?
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Mac beta finally out lol. Weird that there haven't been any riot posts about it heh.
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On May 07 2011 04:41 HazMat wrote:
Mac beta finally out lol. Weird that there haven't been any riot posts about it heh.
Too much time spent hyping up tournaments probably, not enough resources to go around.
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new and up coming meta to look out for
-solo top strong ad carry
jarvan,corki,irelia,cait
super strong solos that are resistant to roamers of old meta
-solo mid aoe ap carry
karthus,malzahar,swain,ap alistar,tf,kennen(im not sure about this one but he fits the bill)
the mid solo doesnt need as much escape or gank resistance as the top solo
-strong bottom lane that can put on 2 v 1 pressure or farm off in a 2 v 2
support-sona,soraka(the new op),janna
farmer-mf,ashe,cait,shen,singed,jarvan
support champ buys 2~3 philos or kages(soraka) and wards up BUT works on buying 1 or 2 big items so they aren't useless late game
famer....farms~,and tries to reach a point where he can 2 v 1 the lane before the other farmer can to free up the support
-early game map dominace into lategame mapcontrol jungle
nunu,noc
or
-the "3rd solo" jungler who farms and contributes largely to a teamfight
amumu,olaf,trundle
1.how does this new meta counter the 1/1/1 roamer meta?
by having 2 champs bot that are able to put on constant pressure and a soloer at top that cannot be ganked, it nullifies the roamer's threat and allows bot to deny exp or push down the tower
2.this seems awfully similar to the eu meta
eu's have a more lively and stronger 5's scene due to multiple tourneys and lot of the tops teams having strong sponsors so their meta game is naturally a step forward compared to the usa meta,and by mix and matching what works vs the usa meta,u get this~
3.any tips and tricks to playing this meta?
the only hard thing to master about this meta,or to be precise the only new thing,is knowing when the support can leave bot,if the support leaves bot too early before the farmer is able to 1 v 2 than,the farmer gets denied 1 v 2,if they leave too late; the support just soaks up exp at bot instead of being useful elsewhere.the timing to leave varys from line up to line up and also depends on how well the lane went early game
4.what are the pick priority with this meta
S tier-tf,nunu,jarvan
tf is broken in any super high elo game due to his retarded pushing ability(wild cards+lichbane+zhonya port)
a nunu can put so much pressure on the other team by counter jungling,ganking at ridiculously early levels and dominate early ward war by buying a early oracle and spamming wards since he isnt item dependent like other junglers,but if u do end up with lots of $ since nunu is all that,invest in gold/5 items and prep for late game
tl dr:stopping a nunu requires alot of resource from ur team and it becomes a lose:lose situation
jarvan
1.retarded damage that scales pretty well
2.itemize well with gold/5 items such as philo and hog
3.his skillset forces the opposing team's squishy to burn summoners and escape and he easily zones them out
honorable mentions
ashe,noc,malz,karthus,soraka
5.wtf loco u so smart,how u know what the new meta is gonna be?
i know right im super smart
but i wanna give credit to saint and oddone who theorycraft with me and tests shit with me so i know what works and what doesnt
also thnx to jiji and chaox who educate me indirectly though their stream and gameplay
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Get your support to buy wards, and plant them in river locations, top brush, and areas heading towards top and mid before buffs spawn. High 5, you have just countered roaming for 3 minutes. That's counters the lvl 1 and early lvl roamers, and fast junglers, that get buffs fast. After that point, jungle and soloes can just plant wards with the money they buy.
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I dont understand, how is that the "new" meta? - it IS the current EU meta ^^
But I guess your point was the US meta will soon develop into EU meta since they're ahead of the curve because of more tourneys and competitive 5s?
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and how did EU develop a meta like this while skipping the roamer meta?
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and then it will cycle back around to putting a 2 man burst lane bot that dumps on low HP characters at level 2. cyclical metagame is cyclical.
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http://www.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=721896
Lore:
The world is not always as civilized as people might think. There are still those who would follow the blackest paths of magic and become corrupted by the darker powers that flow through Runeterra. Shauna Vayne knows this fact well. As a young privileged girl in the heart of Demacia’s elite, her father tried to convince her of the constabulary's ever-vigilant eye. Young and naïve, she truly believed that her world was one of perfect safety… until one night, when a twisted witch took interest in her father. The malevolent woman overcame her father's conciliar guard, then tortured her family before murdering them. The young Shauna escaped only by hiding herself and then fleeing once the hag had departed, plagued by the screams of her loved ones as she ran. A burning hatred was born in her that day, one that could never be denied.
Vayne was able to take care of herself using her father’s money, and she began to train as soon as an instructor would have her as a student. By the time she was a fully grown woman, she had become a grim warrior. However, the fields of battle were not to be her home. Demacia needed a protector, one who hunted those lost to the darkness. Shauna used her family's contacts to become the first Night Hunter, and now her prowess is the stuff of legends. It is said that those who practice the black arts quake when they hear that the Night Hunter is on the prowl. Despite her crusade, Shauna has looked at the League of Legends in horror. There are champions who have clearly lost themselves to the blackest of magics, and who have been embraced within the League even though they should be put down for the safety of all. The time has come for the Night Hunter to execute her secret mission – to purge the League of Legends.
Not all shadows are to be feared. At least, if Vayne has her way.
Abilities:
Night Hunter (Passive): Vayne ruthlessly hunts evil-doers. She gains bonus Movement Speed when moving toward nearby enemy champions.
Tumble: Vayne tumbles, maneuvering to carefully place her next shot. She rolls toward the cursor and her next attack deals bonus damage.
Silver Bolts: Vayne tips her bolts with a rare metal, toxic to evil things. The third consecutive attack or ability against the same target deals a percentage of the target's maximum Health as bonus true damage. (Max damage vs. Monsters is capped)
Condemn: Vayne draws a heavy crossbow from her back, and fires a huge bolt at her target, dealing damage and knocking them back. If they collide with terrain, they are impaled, dealing bonus damage and stunning them.
Final Hour (Ultimate): Readying herself for an epic confrontation, Vayne gains increased Attack Damage, stealth during Tumble, and quadruple the bonus Movement Speed from Night Hunter.
The god damn batman.
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On May 07 2011 06:20 Mogwai wrote:
and then it will cycle back around to putting a 2 man burst lane bot that dumps on low HP characters at level 2. cyclical metagame is cyclical.
janna + ashe, soraka + cait, sona + jarvan
beats any double stun lanes
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Vayne looks to be some sort of eve/yi/shaco hybrid? Sounds like a pubstomper anyway
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I don't buy it, but what do it know
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On May 07 2011 06:22 locodoco wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2011 06:20 Mogwai wrote:
and then it will cycle back around to putting a 2 man burst lane bot that dumps on low HP characters at level 2. cyclical metagame is cyclical. janna + ashe, soraka + cait, sona + jarvan beats any double stun lanes
Janna + ashe (janna + panth), soraka + kassadin, sona + garen, summer 2010 anyone?
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Anyone know what the patch/hotfix is?
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