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dnastyx
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States2707 Posts
May 02 2011 04:14 GMT
#13741
On May 02 2011 11:25 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2011 10:39 dnastyx wrote:
There's a difference between defending your ideas and ignoring solid advice.

Also, he's posted so much about losing in ranked and then goes on to post his cool strats???

Dude you have to be crazy if you think I post 100% seriously the whole time. It's more about intentionally being as dumb as possible at times. For example with my friends I know I've overreacted to criticism about me so it's like "dude you failed that lane" (when I won the lane) and I'll say like "WHAT HOW CAN YOU SAY I FAILED IT, I HAD DOUBLE HIS MINION KILLS" and it's like self-satire.

But maybe that's too advanced... so most people just hate me.


Btw unrelated, but my referrals haven't been updated in like 3 days. What's the update period?


what
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
May 02 2011 04:18 GMT
#13742
On May 02 2011 13:14 dnastyx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2011 11:25 Shikyo wrote:
On May 02 2011 10:39 dnastyx wrote:
There's a difference between defending your ideas and ignoring solid advice.

Also, he's posted so much about losing in ranked and then goes on to post his cool strats???

Dude you have to be crazy if you think I post 100% seriously the whole time. It's more about intentionally being as dumb as possible at times. For example with my friends I know I've overreacted to criticism about me so it's like "dude you failed that lane" (when I won the lane) and I'll say like "WHAT HOW CAN YOU SAY I FAILED IT, I HAD DOUBLE HIS MINION KILLS" and it's like self-satire.

But maybe that's too advanced... so most people just hate me.


Btw unrelated, but my referrals haven't been updated in like 3 days. What's the update period?


what

We need an European to English translator.
www.youtube.com/user/ShakeDrizzle | League and SSBM content creator | Armada's Youtube Editor
Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
May 02 2011 04:24 GMT
#13743
On May 02 2011 13:18 HazMat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2011 13:14 dnastyx wrote:
On May 02 2011 11:25 Shikyo wrote:
On May 02 2011 10:39 dnastyx wrote:
There's a difference between defending your ideas and ignoring solid advice.

Also, he's posted so much about losing in ranked and then goes on to post his cool strats???

Dude you have to be crazy if you think I post 100% seriously the whole time. It's more about intentionally being as dumb as possible at times. For example with my friends I know I've overreacted to criticism about me so it's like "dude you failed that lane" (when I won the lane) and I'll say like "WHAT HOW CAN YOU SAY I FAILED IT, I HAD DOUBLE HIS MINION KILLS" and it's like self-satire.

But maybe that's too advanced... so most people just hate me.


Btw unrelated, but my referrals haven't been updated in like 3 days. What's the update period?


what

We need an European to English translator.

Shikyo is pulling a Tommy Wiseau.
Watch me fail at Paradox: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=397564
Tooplark
Profile Joined October 2008
United States3977 Posts
May 02 2011 04:50 GMT
#13744
You ah lahing, ah neahy hichu. YOU AH TEAHING ME APAHT, CAHLLEH.
WHAT POW'R ART THOU WHO FROM BELOW HAST MADE ME RISE UNWILLINGLY AND SLOW
-Kato-
Profile Joined June 2010
Spain1146 Posts
May 02 2011 09:02 GMT
#13745
Shikyo you getting weirder by the day I wanna play with you to see some of that crazy in action. Khato in-game.
locodoco
Profile Joined July 2010
Korea (South)1615 Posts
May 02 2011 09:28 GMT
#13746
On May 02 2011 07:46 HazMat wrote:
Yes.

This is going to be rude buttttttttttt
If you can't reach 1500 after 100 or more games you are bad. You can blame allies all you can but you are still bad. I am sorry but it's true.

1500's is fucking hard
from 1400~1600 is probably hardest elo range to power level
i wish riot would give me better ping
dnastyx
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States2707 Posts
May 02 2011 09:33 GMT
#13747
I got to 1501 after 12 games. B)

What's that? Shake smurfed on my account?

YEAH HOW DO YOU KNOW SHAKEDRIZZLE ISN'T SECRETLY MY SMURF?
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
May 02 2011 09:38 GMT
#13748
On May 02 2011 18:28 locodoco wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2011 07:46 HazMat wrote:
Yes.

This is going to be rude buttttttttttt
If you can't reach 1500 after 100 or more games you are bad. You can blame allies all you can but you are still bad. I am sorry but it's true.

1500's is fucking hard
from 1400~1600 is probably hardest elo range to power level

I went from 1400 to 1600 basically undefeated.

1750 is where the horror resides.
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
SHr3DD3r
Profile Joined March 2009
Pakistan2137 Posts
May 02 2011 09:48 GMT
#13749
On May 02 2011 18:28 locodoco wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2011 07:46 HazMat wrote:
Yes.

This is going to be rude buttttttttttt
If you can't reach 1500 after 100 or more games you are bad. You can blame allies all you can but you are still bad. I am sorry but it's true.

1500's is fucking hard
from 1400~1600 is probably hardest elo range to power level

Yea took me a while to clear this range. Really frustrating.
Hit them hard! Hit them low! - Forever a Bisu Fan!~!
locodoco
Profile Joined July 2010
Korea (South)1615 Posts
May 02 2011 09:54 GMT
#13750
pending luck
i can go 1700~2k in a 2~3 days
i can go 2k~2.1k in a 3~4 days
but 1400~1600 is a fucking week long job
every single time
i wish riot would give me better ping
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14081 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-02 10:16:11
May 02 2011 10:03 GMT
#13751
On May 02 2011 18:54 locodoco wrote:
pending luck
i can go 1700~2k in a 2~3 days
i can go 2k~2.1k in a 3~4 days
but 1400~1600 is a fucking week long job
every single time


Any idea why? Is it because it's the range where people overstimate their own skill the most and therefore have fundamental flaws in their game they a) refuse to admit and b) try to force unto others?

Edit: e.g. I had a game right now, 1430 ELO. Our picks in order: Irelia jungle, Malphite, Soraka, Veigar, Corki (me) ... they roll MF / Nidalee / Shaco / Sion / Singed.

It took me a shit load of yelling to get mid with corki instead of veigar.

Sion rushes mobil boots and ganks left and right, nid gets fed and those two + shaco gank everywhere all the time. I decide it's not worth trying to chase that shit and go into farmmode+get mid turret at 10mins.

I get HUGE flame for this from my team, any thoughts on that? Basicly I assumed that I can't outchase that combo anyway but our lategame > theirs hardcore.

Every time we get a kill or two I have to yell the whole team into getting a tower/dragon/baron since on their own they'd just bluepill back or chase survivers.

What I mean by "fundamental flaws" (please correct any of those if I'm wrong):
"OMG VEIGAR MID AD BOT WITH SUPPORT YOU FUCKING NEWB"
"OMFG SION GANKS ALL THE TIME AND YOU DONT YOU FUCKING NEWB"
"WE GOT A KILL AND NOW CHASE INSTEAD OF GETTING OBJECTIVES"


PS: Team was like 3-10 once mid tower died, 35-30 after ~40 minutes of slugging.

PPS: Thank you so much for the Corki attitude I copied from you loco.
a) Ignore team, afkfarm mid.
b) "Farm on me > Farm on anyone else kkkkkkk"
c) Rape and make haters stfu.

<3
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
locodoco
Profile Joined July 2010
Korea (South)1615 Posts
May 02 2011 10:21 GMT
#13752
alot of it has to do with in 1400~1600 u usually get 1st pick for a bunch 1400's
once u get above 1600 its pretty rare u get firstpick and u can just tip the game in ur team's favor by doing better than ur "suppose" to
i wish riot would give me better ping
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
May 02 2011 10:23 GMT
#13753
On May 02 2011 18:54 locodoco wrote:
pending luck
i can go 1700~2k in a 2~3 days
i can go 2k~2.1k in a 3~4 days
but 1400~1600 is a fucking week long job
every single time

It probably depends a lot on the champs you play at those elo ranges. I find it almost impossible to carry as ranged AD at ~1500 elo simply because all enemies will focus you and your allies won't protect you at all.
At even lower elo, you can just brute force your way through hordes of baddies due to superior mechanics and farm. At higher elo, you can hope to see some support/peeling.

With semi roaming Janna, ~1500 was a breeze. Generally, champs who have presence on the whole map (clairvoyance so good) seem like a really strong choice for that elo range.

imoimoimo.
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
Pigsquirrel
Profile Joined August 2009
United States615 Posts
May 02 2011 10:45 GMT
#13754
Yeah, the idea is to gradually gain IP.
napo
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Romania622 Posts
May 02 2011 11:11 GMT
#13755
So I was thinking yesterday about this: does the spell vamp heal you for the magic damage inflicted by madreds?
Though we strike at you from the shadows, do not think that we lack the courage to stand in the light.
emucxg
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Finland4559 Posts
May 02 2011 11:34 GMT
#13756
On May 02 2011 20:11 napo wrote:
So I was thinking yesterday about this: does the spell vamp heal you for the magic damage inflicted by madreds?

nope... if so, tank with sunfire and sv will be super OP lol
napo
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Romania622 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-02 12:05:09
May 02 2011 11:56 GMT
#13757
On May 02 2011 20:34 emucxg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2011 20:11 napo wrote:
So I was thinking yesterday about this: does the spell vamp heal you for the magic damage inflicted by madreds?

nope... if so, tank with sunfire and sv will be super OP lol

Carry with madreds would be much more OP, than a tank with sunfire, imo. Just imagine a teemo with 2.0 AS, a hextech plus a will of ancient on one of the teammates.

Assuming that ranged carries/casters never get near tanks, that would mean on avg sunfire does roughly 3*40 damage/sec in a teamfight (for simplicity lets ignore MRes, which would lower it even more). With 20% spell vamp that is around 24 hp/sec - 120/5. Now that is something to consider, but how much do teamfights last? I would say not more than 5-7 seconds, when everybody pops his ulti and spells, then the low hp's try to escape and the champs arent clumped up anymore.
Though we strike at you from the shadows, do not think that we lack the courage to stand in the light.
StuffedTurkey
Profile Joined May 2010
United States859 Posts
May 02 2011 12:25 GMT
#13758
On May 02 2011 20:56 napo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2011 20:34 emucxg wrote:
On May 02 2011 20:11 napo wrote:
So I was thinking yesterday about this: does the spell vamp heal you for the magic damage inflicted by madreds?

nope... if so, tank with sunfire and sv will be super OP lol

Carry with madreds would be much more OP, than a tank with sunfire, imo. Just imagine a teemo with 2.0 AS, a hextech plus a will of ancient on one of the teammates.

Assuming that ranged carries/casters never get near tanks, that would mean on avg sunfire does roughly 3*40 damage/sec in a teamfight (for simplicity lets ignore MRes, which would lower it even more). With 20% spell vamp that is around 24 hp/sec - 120/5. Now that is something to consider, but how much do teamfights last? I would say not more than 5-7 seconds, when everybody pops his ulti and spells, then the low hp's try to escape and the champs arent clumped up anymore.

btw spell vamp for aoe spells is 1/3 of your listed vamp. so if sunfire DID work with vamp, on 3 enemies as in your scenario, it would be 40/5, not 120
You can't milk those!
MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
May 02 2011 13:20 GMT
#13759
On May 02 2011 20:11 napo wrote:
So I was thinking yesterday about this: does the spell vamp heal you for the magic damage inflicted by madreds?

No. Spell vamp does not work off Madred Procs. It also will not work on other magic damage procs such as Wits End or Madreds Bloodrazor.
ModeratorA dream. Do you have one that has cursed you like that? Or maybe... a wish?
Goshawk.
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United Kingdom5338 Posts
May 02 2011 13:34 GMT
#13760
Level 1 tourny or smth would just suck because LoL sucks pretty hard at low levels.
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