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Conservatives Waterboarded - Voluntarily.

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chobopeon
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States7342 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-22 22:50:01
May 22 2009 22:06 GMT
#1
A few weeks ago, Sean Hannity made a comment about waterboarding.


GRODIN: You're for torture.
HANNITY: I am for enhanced interrogation.
GRODIN: You don't believe it's torture. Have you ever been waterboarded?
HANNITY: No, but Ollie North has.
GRODIN: Would you consent to be waterboarded? We can waterboard you?
HANNITY: Sure.
GRODIN: Are you busy on Sunday?
HANNITY: I'll do it for charity. I'll let you do it. I'll do it for the troops' families.


Since then, offers have been made to pay $1,000 per second Hannity endured the technique and to double the price if he admitted he feared for his life. Hannity hasn't said a thing since this offer has been made - it's been a while, he's not likely to say anything.

BUT other conservatives have stepped up to the plate:

Conservative Radio Host Has Himself Waterboard to Prove It’s Not Torture, Realizes He Was Wrong




Believe Me, It's Torture



These guys did it just to prove a point (and managed to prove another one). Let's hope Sean Hannity does it with the incentive of money for charity. It's hard to imagine it taking more than 10 seconds for him to completely change his tune.

It's pretty terrifying to see these guys so shaken. It really drives home the point that this is not just "pouring water" - it's drowning. It's torture.

edit:
a video from last month of a US military trained man conducting the technique: http://link.brightcove.com/services/player/bcpid1579920046?bctid=20047560001
:O
Xeofreestyler
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
Belgium6775 Posts
May 22 2009 22:12 GMT
#2
Whoa. That mancow guy looked seriously messed up
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Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
May 22 2009 22:13 GMT
#3
I don't think either Hitchens' or Mancow's (who Wikipedia says is a FM DJ, not conservative talk show host) testimonies mean that much, but I would LOVE to see Sean Hannity waterboarded for 30 seconds.
ModeratorNow I'm distant, dark in this anthrobeat
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
May 22 2009 22:14 GMT
#4
On May 23 2009 07:12 Xeofreestyler wrote:
Whoa. That mancow guy looked seriously messed up

Yeah, but he also had psychological issues with drowning from when he was a little boy.
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KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43820 Posts
May 22 2009 22:14 GMT
#5
Always good to see someone have the balls to test on themselves in order to validate what they believe to be true. Respect.
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Diomedes
Profile Joined March 2009
464 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-22 22:18:27
May 22 2009 22:17 GMT
#6
On May 23 2009 07:13 Jibba wrote:
but I would LOVE to see Sean Hannity waterboarded for 30 seconds.


I bet no one can last 30 seconds the first time they get water tortured.

I think it's pretty stupid to do. There shouldn't be any doubt that it isn't torture. The mental damage is permanent.
ProTech_MediC
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States498 Posts
May 22 2009 22:18 GMT
#7
Fascinating, thanks for the write-up.
MC Fighting!~
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
May 22 2009 22:20 GMT
#8
On May 23 2009 07:17 Diomedes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2009 07:13 Jibba wrote:
but I would LOVE to see Sean Hannity waterboarded for 30 seconds.


I bet no one can last 30 seconds the first time they get water tortured.
Oh, I believe that, but they could strap him down and keep going.
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iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
May 22 2009 22:23 GMT
#9
I watched the video.. fascinating. Didn't really know what constitutes "water boarding."

So I guess it basically feels like drowning?
chobopeon
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States7342 Posts
May 22 2009 22:26 GMT
#10
On May 23 2009 07:23 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
I watched the video.. fascinating. Didn't really know what constitutes "water boarding."

So I guess it basically feels like drowning?


it is drowning. your head is low, water being poured all over your face. you're breathing water.

really scary stuff.
:O
fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
May 22 2009 22:26 GMT
#11
On May 23 2009 07:23 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
I watched the video.. fascinating. Didn't really know what constitutes "water boarding."

So I guess it basically feels like drowning?


I'm not sure feels is a strong enough word
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iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
May 22 2009 22:28 GMT
#12
ah controlled drowning basically.. fucked up.
BalliSLife
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
1339 Posts
May 22 2009 22:28 GMT
#13
Can we call it water drowning instead
Ya well, at least I don't fuck a fleshlight with a condom on and cry at the same time.
chobopeon
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States7342 Posts
May 22 2009 22:30 GMT
#14
can we call it torture instead?
:O
Diomedes
Profile Joined March 2009
464 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-22 22:32:51
May 22 2009 22:31 GMT
#15
They force you to breathe water causing you to drown. This triggers a very strong fear of drowning since apparently that's what was hard wired into mammals to make them more successful at surviving drowning.

If you don't know where you are and blindfolded knowing people want to do some real bad things with you, it is possible you will break your own bones.

In the end you die if they don't stop. If you survive, it causes psychological damage. You will have nightmares.


It is a common form of water torture probably known as long as people torture. But once it was discovered the US used this form of torture NYT changed the name to 'waterboarding'.
chobopeon
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States7342 Posts
May 22 2009 22:32 GMT
#16
yes, hitchens mentions how he awakes up days later and feels suffocated and afraid.

fucking terrifying.
:O
Diomedes
Profile Joined March 2009
464 Posts
May 22 2009 22:35 GMT
#17
Not strange if your body tells you you are about to die. That's how the instincts work. It's been documented it can cause PTSD.
PanN
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2828 Posts
May 22 2009 22:35 GMT
#18
Imagine not speaking their language, imagine them not stopping when you want.

Fucked up.
We have multiple brackets generated in advance. Relax . (Kennigit) I just simply do not understand how it can be the time to play can be 22nd at 9:30 pm PST / midnight the 23rd at the same time. (GGzerg)
chobopeon
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States7342 Posts
May 22 2009 22:36 GMT
#19
On May 23 2009 07:13 Jibba wrote:
I don't think either Hitchens' or Mancow's (who Wikipedia says is a FM DJ, not conservative talk show host) testimonies mean that much, but I would LOVE to see Sean Hannity waterboarded for 30 seconds.


wikipedia is right - he is a fm dj. and he is a conservative talk show host.

his show, afaik, is a morning talk show on from 9-11am.
:O
fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
May 22 2009 22:38 GMT
#20
King James I personally described the process in The Kings Booke (1606). He would, on the advice of his officers, “approve no new torture,” but he would certainly avail himself of the existing practices. In ascending order of severity they were: thumbscrews, the rack and waterboarding. That’s right. Waterboarding was considered the most severe of the official forms of torture. Worse than the rack and thumbscrews.
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