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I was listening to NPR earlier and they had this guy come on and talk about the rankings of OECD Countries on almost everything (peoplewise). Obesity, Leisure time, eating time, sleeping time, crime, poverty, education, life satisfaction, etc. etc.
There is almost too much information to read. (Mostly PDF and XLS documents.)
http://www.oecd.org/document/17/0,3343,en_2649_34487_42671889_1_1_1_1,00.html
http://www.oecd.org/document/24/0,3343,en_2649_34637_2671576_1_1_1_1,00.html
A few notable stats I skimmed through:
Health,Sleep,Eating:
KOR and JPN are the lowest obesity rates (BMI of <30) at 3% where USA and MEX are over 30%. USA and MEX also have some of the shortest amounts of time eating per day (about 1:30:00) where as FRA spends more than 2 hours a day eating. FRA and USA also have some of the most sleeping at over 8.6 hours while KOR and JAP are the lowest (7.6). and MEX being about 8.3.
Crime:
IRE(land) 21.9%, ICE(land)21.2%, NZL(new zealand)21.5%, and NTL (netherlands)19.7%, have the highest crime rates. What do they all have in common? The word 'land', lol. NTL seems to have the highest Bicycle theft rate of all at 6.6%. IRE has the highest pickpocketing rate at 7.2%,robbery at 2.2%, and rape at 3.8%.
Also to be noted that the UK which also has a high crime rate has the 2nd highest assault rate behind ICE (5.9%) at 5.4%. IRE and NZL tie 3rd and 4th at 4.9%.
US ranks somewhere in the high middle at 17.5% overall. And doesn't have a top stat in anything. 2nd in rape at 3.6%
MEX and GREECE seem to be the most corrupt countries at about 13%. Surprisingly US and most other countries rank below 1%.
I don't see any murder statistics though, which is curious because I would like to see how that is effected by gun laws from country to country.
So as you can see there is a lot of interesting statistics on OECD countries in here from a wide range of different subjects. It will be interesting to hear input from people in these countries about the stats and how they play into their daily lives.
From all the data gathered here we can learn how to be greater or at least equal to other countries to keep the bad out and good in.
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Clearly these stats show that I should sleep more.
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Chalz.. you feelin ok bro?
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Korea and Japan sleep the fewest, with an average of like 8 hours, which I found to be alot more than I thought.
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On May 06 2009 07:59 il0seonpurpose wrote: Korea and Japan sleep the fewest, with an average of like 8 hours, which I found to be alot more than I thought.
FRA and USA also have some of the most sleeping at over 8.6 hours while KOR and JAP are the lowest (7.6). and MEX being about 8.3.
On May 06 2009 08:03 HeavOnEarth wrote:I thought U.S. had the highest crime rate or something. Oh guess not ; it was the incarceration rate. Although you'd think having that, would put them at least in the top ten. http://www.csmonitor.com/2003/0818/p02s01-usju.html
It's because we have ridiculous sentencing (and maybe better police?). We do the crimes and then we are put away for years and years which lowers the overall crime rate because all the criminals are in prison all the time. Especially with drug policies. You get life in prison in CA for having what like an oz. of weed, 3 strikes and you are out law.
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Don't Koreans sleep like 5 hours? There's a saying which translates to "Sleep 5 hours and you fail, sleep 4 hours and you pass." or something like that
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On May 06 2009 08:49 il0seonpurpose wrote: Don't Koreans sleep like 5 hours? There's a saying which translates to "Sleep 5 hours and you fail, sleep 4 hours and you pass." or something like that I dunno, but I only get like 5-6 hours of sleep every night. US stats seem like they would be much lower as well.
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On May 06 2009 08:49 il0seonpurpose wrote: Don't Koreans sleep like 5 hours? There's a saying which translates to "Sleep 5 hours and you fail, sleep 4 hours and you pass." or something like that
I thought that was just for schoolchildren...
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I like the French view on life. Spend it all eating, sleeping and striking yet still be productive enough to be one of the richest countries.
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Physician
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interesting - though one might want to take in account that not all reporting is equally efficient; for example Swiz stats are way more accurate, or u if u don't like the term, let us say then representative, than say, Mexican stats. This will skew any comparative study between nations.
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damn.
so I have a bunch of countries I could go to where people wouldn't tell me to hurry up and eat faster every meal
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this is all fascinating to me
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i thought koreans were lucky because they seemed capable of falling asleep at any time in any circumstances. then i realized it was just because theyre all chronically sleep deprived.
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i sleep like 14 hours a day. ZzZzzzZZ
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And the other 10 you work and eat? :p
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On May 06 2009 09:06 Nytefish wrote: I like the French view on life. Spend it all eating, sleeping and striking yet still be productive enough to be one of the richest countries.
It's not so much that the French are productive as it is everybody outside of France is productive. A significant amount of their economy is in tourism.
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On May 06 2009 09:00 ghostWriter wrote:Show nested quote +On May 06 2009 08:49 il0seonpurpose wrote: Don't Koreans sleep like 5 hours? There's a saying which translates to "Sleep 5 hours and you fail, sleep 4 hours and you pass." or something like that I thought that was just for schoolchildren...
Yeah, well I thought that would account for some of the data
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For the corruption information, take it with a grain of salt. I did a lot of research on corruption for one of my papers a while back and most of the papers I read indicated that corruption is very difficult to measure empirically. I don't know the specifics of the OECD data, but if it is based on what their researchers think are key contributors to corruption, I'd still be skeptical. Researching corruption in the field of economics is still relatively new so the many facets of corruption are still often misunderstood.
As for your surprise at how long the USA is ranked, most Americans are overly cynical about the government. Compared to a lot of countries, we are doing pretty well. Wikipedia has a nice picture representing the perceptions of corruption by different countries and the general trend seems to be distrust of establishment correlates with perception of corruption.
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Oh goodie! Now I can back my new stereotypes with information!!!
This is actually pretty cool find Charlie
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On May 06 2009 09:53 Physician wrote: interesting - though one might want to take in account that not all reporting is equally efficient; for example Swiz stats are way more accurate, or u if u don't like the term, let us say then representative, than say, Mexican stats. This will skew any comparative study between nations.
I'd like to ad to what Physician wrote, In certain areas the definition of murder is different. I know that murder rates in Japan are skewed because a murder suicide of family is only considered a suicide. I'm not so sure on other areas but this would change the results of the study.
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On May 07 2009 06:00 uglymoose89 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 06 2009 09:53 Physician wrote: interesting - though one might want to take in account that not all reporting is equally efficient; for example Swiz stats are way more accurate, or u if u don't like the term, let us say then representative, than say, Mexican stats. This will skew any comparative study between nations. I'd like to ad to what Physician wrote, In certain areas the definition of murder is different. I know that murder rates in Japan are skewed because a murder suicide of family is only considered a suicide. I'm not so sure on other areas but this would change the results of the study. wtf??
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wtf?? Do you understand how gender loaded both definitions are?
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That's a no. Think about it.
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Heh, so we're the biggest criminals. Not really surprising though, the amount of gangland crime here has gone up loads in the last 10-15 years or so. Its gotten really bad, with usually 3-4 murders a week. (Which is a lot considering guns are illegal, and we have a population of only 4mil)
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Could I get an explanation of how this is useful?
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On May 07 2009 07:58 travis wrote: Could I get an explanation of how this is useful?
it feeds your brains hunger for random knowledge
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haha all the men in italy do fuck all while the women work
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I can't remember which class it was(probably psych intro) but we discussed this kind of stuff, basically saying that the more productive countries like you said sleep more(spain anyone?), same with France because in France it's mandatory that each employee gets six weeks paid vacation per year.
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On May 06 2009 08:50 CharlieMurphy wrote:Show nested quote +On May 06 2009 08:49 il0seonpurpose wrote: Don't Koreans sleep like 5 hours? There's a saying which translates to "Sleep 5 hours and you fail, sleep 4 hours and you pass." or something like that I dunno, but I only get like 5-6 hours of sleep every night. US stats seem like they would be much lower as well.
A normal human being needs 7-8 hours of sleep each night, if you sleep 5 or 6 hours every night of every week you're either wrong or you're 80 years old since the older you get the less sleep you need. I suppose it's possible if you sleep longer in the weekends since a lack of sleep can be caught up to incredibly fast but good god I wouldn't want to live like that, how would you even study during the day with 5 hours of sleep every night, I'd just fall asleep in an instant.
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On May 07 2009 07:40 deconduo wrote: Heh, so we're the biggest criminals. Not really surprising though, the amount of gangland crime here has gone up loads in the last 10-15 years or so. Its gotten really bad, with usually 3-4 murders a week. (Which is a lot considering guns are illegal, and we have a population of only 4mil)
is it because of all the polish?
:DDD
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New Zealand may have one of the highest crime rates because we report a lot of our crimes.
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On May 10 2009 07:55 Sadist wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2009 07:40 deconduo wrote: Heh, so we're the biggest criminals. Not really surprising though, the amount of gangland crime here has gone up loads in the last 10-15 years or so. Its gotten really bad, with usually 3-4 murders a week. (Which is a lot considering guns are illegal, and we have a population of only 4mil) is it because of all the polish? :DDD
yeah, if their boots weren't so damn shiny they wouldn't be fighting.
*pause for laughter*
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On May 06 2009 15:02 IdrA wrote: i thought koreans were lucky because they seemed capable of falling asleep at any time in any circumstances. then i realized it was just because theyre all chronically sleep deprived. i always wondered too how japanese and koreans do that :X
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The Netherlands has high crime. Being n0 1 on biketheft is worse then being number two on rape? I like the logic of this list. I like this country apparently every type of crime has the same severity. If the numbers arent weighted these statistics suck monkey balls.
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One time I had my bike stolen... it was just like being raped. Don't marginilize bike theft!
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Koreans stole my bike about 5 months ago but I didn't report it... Assholes
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My bike was raped by a gang of dutchmen
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God, my average sleep time is practically half the national average ~_~ Must get rid of insomnia...
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These are interesting, i guess, but what do they have to do with a real life situation? Because i would rather live in a place with a 2.3% higher chance of getting my bike stolen than an 8% higher chance of getting raped.
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