EPTOh that is not much of an honor, really. I'll have better things to show my grandkids.
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SpaCe)Ment-rA
Canada389 Posts
Oh that is not much of an honor, really. I'll have better things to show my grandkids. | ||
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Wizard
Poland5055 Posts
On July 13 2008 07:16 SpaCe)Ment-rA wrote: So everyone's opinions are bullshit and worthless? How kind of you. Oh that is not much of an honor, really. I'll have better things to show my grandkids. opinions are generally worthless | ||
Klogon
MURICA15980 Posts
But don't be a little kid about it. "Oh but you said this!" Well don't take things out of context and don't pretend to be overly offended by it. | ||
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SpaCe)Ment-rA
Canada389 Posts
On July 13 2008 07:22 Klogon wrote: If you knew anything about the English language and how it is used to communicate ideas, you wouldn't be nit-picking my words like that and isolating it. Oh, I know that langage pretty well and I do know how ideas are communicated. I know french (which is my main langage) damn well and that doesn't keep me from "nit-picking", when arguing in french, about words that don't belong in a polite debate. Be mannered and I will be glad to hear your ideas, whether I agree with them or not " I may disaprove of what you say but I will always defend your right to say it " (personal note: If they aren't insults.) - Voltaire Well don't take things out of context and don't pretend to be overly offended by it. I am offended by unnecessary flaming. I am offended by people who prefer insults above all, especially above mannered arguments (see first quote from your post). I'm sorry but I don't share that opinion. I rather believe they always are useful. One only has to listen. " Courage is what it takes to stand up and speak, but courage is also what it takes to sit down and listen." - Winston Churchill The key is to listen... and put that godamn pride away. | ||
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Daveed
United States236 Posts
Anyway, this discussion of yours has strayed quite far from where it had set out, and is heading towards a few flames. | ||
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SpaCe)Ment-rA
Canada389 Posts
On July 13 2008 07:42 Daveed wrote: That's funny, because I feel that there's a lot more "goddamn pride" coming from your corner. Anyway, this discussion of yours has strayed quite far from where it had set out, and is heading towards a few flames. Oh Klogon has already begun flaming. And my pride kicks in when I'm being insulted. I have no problem agreeing with a divergent opinion when it is said politely. See? You didn't flame me and I'm not being an ass to you. As simple as that. It's called respect. | ||
KwarK
United States44190 Posts
These are the rules of tl, deal with it. Fortunately the moderators are extremely competent people and therefore you can rely on them to act maturely, even if users are twisting what they say completely out of context, getting their panties in a twist over nothing and unequivocably wrong over the point they are arguing. | ||
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SpaCe)Ment-rA
Canada389 Posts
On July 13 2008 08:32 Kwark wrote: The only right on teamliquid is the right to act as they see fit given to the moderators. I've already agreed with that, see earlier posts. So yes, your ability to speak freely is being infringed upon. That's all I was saying. I wasn't saying no one should ever be censored, neither no one ever be banned. This has gotten out of the original context and that's pretty nasty. [...] even if users are twisting what they say completely out of context, getting their panties in a twist over nothing and unequivocably wrong over the point they are arguing. That wasn't much out of context. When someone says: "your opinion is bullshit and worthless" and then says "that 'you' was addressing everyone", that's quite clear. That repeated argument has no value. Over nothing? Oh I don't think so. Unequivocably wrong? So who are you to decide what's right and what's wrong? Fortunately the moderators are extremely competent people and therefore you can rely on them to act maturely We'll see that. | ||
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KwarK
United States44190 Posts
On September 13 2004 22:42 mensrea wrote: This also means you should think twice before calling that guy with 5000+ posts a jackass. If the guy's been with us that long, chances are YOU'RE the one being an idiot. Some battles are just not worth fighting - just move on. I don't know why I'm bothering tbh because you're clearly a retard and will keep arguing for absolutely no reason and then get banned and then go "zomg tl so imba, banned me for arguing with a mod when i was liek totally liek in the liek right ya know?". I've seen it before. But I guess I'm in a generous mood so I'll try again. Just drop it. Walk away. | ||
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Wizard
Poland5055 Posts
On July 13 2008 08:59 SpaCe)Ment-rA wrote: I've already agreed with that, see earliest posts. That's all I was saying. I wasn't saying no one should ever be censored, neither no one ever be banned. This has gotten out of the original context and that's pretty nasty. That wasn't much out of context. When someone says: "your opinion is bullshit and worthless" and then says "that 'you' was addressing everyone", that's quite clear. That repeated argument has no value. Over nothing? Oh I don't think so. Unequivocably wrong? So who are you to decide what's right and what's wrong? We'll see that. Like I said before, you don't even know what your arguing about. | ||
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SpaCe)Ment-rA
Canada389 Posts
On July 13 2008 09:10 Wizard wrote: Like I said before, you don't even know what your arguing about. How totally irrevelant when without a single word of explaination. Very useful to the debate, thank you very much for your detailed post. On July 13 2008 09:06 Kwark wrote: I don't know why I'm bothering tbh because you're clearly a retard Thank you. I'm flattered. | ||
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Chuiu
3470 Posts
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Nyovne
Netherlands19141 Posts
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SpaCe)Ment-rA
Canada389 Posts
On July 13 2008 09:27 Chuiu wrote: Space, I think you should be thankful you haven't been banned yet. I'm actually wondering why. Maybe mods are like all sleeping or gaming. But I honestly don't think I deserve a ban. | ||
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dronebabo
10866 Posts
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ShaLLoW[baY]
Canada12499 Posts
On July 13 2008 09:29 Nyovne wrote: This guy is posting more quotes then even Ragnar Birko can pull out of his ass. That is a lot of quotes. | ||
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Nyovne
Netherlands19141 Posts
You should see him on IRC. And now: [02:49] <ThE_AdvoCaTe> listen nyonve [02:49] <ThE_AdvoCaTe> I'll say it one more time [02:49] <ThE_AdvoCaTe> listen carefully *drumroll* | ||
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Nyovne
Netherlands19141 Posts
[02:52] * dronebabo sets mode: +b *!*@ip097.254-51-69.sogetel.net [02:52] * ThE_AdvoCaTe was kicked by dronebabo (Boo-hoo) [02:52] <@dronebabo> man [02:52] <@dronebabo> i always gotta do the dirty work BBBAAABBOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!! | ||
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Nyovne
Netherlands19141 Posts
Let alone the fact that Freedom of Speech is a personal right and under no circumstance constitutes an obligation for someone else. Hence kicking someone out of your house of banning someone for saying something can in no way be conceived as an infringement upon said right. It's merely exercising the right not to have to listen to other peoples crap. Oh wait, according to his freedom of speech there are no limits and as such it also imposes an obligation upon others to behave conform the speakers intention to actively hearken to it because without it he supposedly cannot in full effectiveness exercise his right to freedom of speech. Do you even know how rediculous that sounds lol. Get a proper grasp of things, let alone "general principles" before you start firing them at everyone. Any and all rights are inherently limited, there arguably is only one totalitarian right which would be the right to life. Which I don't even support myself as it in no way can be possibly and fully backed up by argument and would entail certain... assumptions. | ||
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Klogon
MURICA15980 Posts
On July 13 2008 07:39 SpaCe)Ment-rA wrote: I am offended by unnecessary flaming. I am offended by people who prefer insults above all, especially above mannered arguments (see first quote from your post). Lol I don't feel like banning you 'cause you seem like a good guy. But let's read my first post again, shall we? On July 13 2008 06:59 Klogon wrote: Actually I can do whatever I want. That's my right. That's my "freedom of banning" that I get directly from the supreme government of TeamLiquid.net. As far as I'm concerned, my rights > your rights here  EDIT: We're not stopping you from spewing your bullshit elsewhere, just not here. It's just like you can't just walk into the Senate and start shouting your worthless opinion in the middle of a meeting. They can make you shut up there without infringing on your freedom of speech, because frankly, you can go outside and bitch all you want, just not there. So first of all, keep in mind that none of this is directed straight at you. The "you" I'm using is for all general readers. So knowing that: The "bullshit" that you quoted to try to take offense to has no reference WHATSOEVER to what YOU, spaCe)Ment-rA, have said or will say. It's just saying saying that TEAMLIQUID.NET DOESN'T CARE WHAT BULLSHIT HAPPENS ANYWHERE ELSE. Comprende? And the "worthless opinion" part when in regards to some random dude walking into the Senate... yeah, if you did that your opinion would be regarded as absolutely worthless. But the diction I used to get that point across may sound harsh, but its justifiably condescending if you feel its appropriate to walk into the Senate floor to give your opinion (because "I have freedom of speech!"). As far as me appearing to be an arrogant, egotistical mod who thinks he rules the world because he can ban people on an internet forum? Well, I was obviously joking when I talked about the "framing my post" and other non-sense because I'm playfully reaffirming the TL.net policy #1 that THIS IS OUR HOUSE, so I thought it appropriate and fun to exude such pompous attitude when addressing dissent. Basically, chill dude and remember that THIS IS MY HOUSE =D EDIT: It shows maturity to say "I'm wrong" and back down. Most people here can't do it. Doing that will not make me look down on you at all, but quite the contrary. So you don't need to keep fighting for fighting's sake. | ||
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