On May 29 2008 06:17 ilj.psa wrote: human can't kill a 160 chimp now THATS ridiculous, you can't kill a dog unless you miracously got him in a headlock which is "so easy", pisses me off, i'd like to see any of you fight a fucking dog. If you got him in a headlock he will bite the fuck out of your arms, and you woudlnt be able to do your "deadly" headlock
When i mean a trained human can beat a chimp, i mean Fedor .
And for the Siberian tiger vs bear, according to wikipedia,
Like all other cats, the Siberian tiger is a carnivorous predator. It preys primarily on wild boar and red deer, which make up 65-90% of its diet in the Russian Far East. Other important prey species are moose, roe deer, sika deer, musk deer, and goral. Even dangerous animals like adult brown bears are among the prey species of the Siberian tiger. Asiatic black bears and brown bears constitute 5-8% of the Siberian tigers diet,]. In particular, the brown bears input is estimated as 1-1.5%. Certain tigers have been reported to imitate the calls of Asiatic black bears to attract them. It will also take smaller prey like lagomorphs (hares, rabbits, and pikas) and fish, including salmon. Because its main prey are red deer and wild boar, protecting these and other prey animals from illegal hunting may be just as important to the tiger's survival as preventing the direct killing of the big cats. In areas where Siberian tigers and wolves share ranges, the tigers depress the number of wolves, either to the point of localized extinction or to such low numbers as to make them a functionally insignificant component of the ecosystem. Wolves appear capable of escaping competitive exclusion only when human persecution decreases the number of tigers
So tigers can kill and eat bears althought they have high probability to be killed if they attack a large brown bear.
On May 29 2008 06:17 ilj.psa wrote: human can't kill a 160 chimp now THATS ridiculous, you can't kill a dog unless you miracously got him in a headlock which is "so easy", pisses me off, i'd like to see any of you fight a fucking dog. If you got him in a headlock he will bite the fuck out of your arms, and you woudlnt be able to do your "deadly" headlock
When i mean a trained human can beat a chimp, i mean Fedor .
He would still get raped, chimps don't play by the rules. Did I mention that they go for the balls?
On May 29 2008 07:32 ilj.psa wrote: Nope, i dont think any human regarding how good they are phisically can take out a 160 chimp, lets get back to Dog.
Yea lets get back to the dog ^^. Endless arguments can be boring and we have already one .
On May 29 2008 07:32 ilj.psa wrote: btw am i the only one that thinks im doing something illegal by posting in this thread?
And yea Fedor doesnt look impressive when he isnt fighting. But when you see him fight you understand why he is a MMA genius and a robot. http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=1NIDp7ul6Q0
I dont think many human would have survived to this and won the fights.
On May 29 2008 07:29 Boblion wrote: Fedor can go for the balls / eyes too ....
He wont fight with gloves and " no elbow " rules.
Is this guy Fedor?
LOL?
Guess again:
Oh and I think Mike Tyson would knock a chimp the fuck out. I'd wager to bet that he could even beat a medium sized bear. (Assuming he wanted to eat its children).
I'd take an average male over the dog. Ultimately, the weight difference is too big and the dog can only bite.
If you have good reflexes, you have a small chance at getting him when he jumps at you, either with a kick or, against a smaller dog, by grabbing one of his legs and throwing. Most probably though, that will fail, so you need to avoid getting bitten on your face or your throat.
Giving a leg would leave you with both your arms to fight back, but keeping your balance will probably be tricky. You'll still have both of your arms to eyegouge, or grab the dog to go to the ground on top of him, or hit him on the neck. Giving your weak arm, you have only one left to fight, but you can hit the throat or the neck pretty hard, and you still have the eyes to go for. Your legs or knees can also hit the thorax or his crotch.
Terry Bryan, who worked in the military as a scout dog handler, contributed a similar observation: "When we were attacked (in the military) by one of our own dogs and we had nothing in our hands, we would feed them our arm and let them bite. That kept them from going to the legs and dragging us to the ground or jumping up and going for the throat."
And of course, if a dog has hold of you, the dog's eyes and throat are usually vulnerable. I hate the idea of attacking the eyes, but if you're endangered, the eyes might make a credible target. Although I have never had to do this, I would use my thumbs just as I would on a human aggressor. A sharp blow into the throat/larynx would also have effect.
Terry contributed another technique from his military training. "Once the dog locked on the arm we could choke the dog until he passed out. In a life or death situation, you can feed your arm to the dog and then by placing the other arm behind the head you can snap their neck. This is what we taught as a defense to military attack dogs."
Horse stance is to build leg strength and because it's a transitional stance. It's a base stance that shifts into others. The other stance, meanwhile, is pure trash. Boxers are among the worst fighters compared to other martial arts. The least angles of attack of nearly any style.
If you want to see horse stance in action, go get some clips of Jet Li
Wow, dumbest post in the whole thread. I'll give you that horse stance can build leg strength, but calling boxers the worst fighters compared to other martial arts? Are you delusional? Seriously, do you just open your ass and talk out of it? I'm not gonna even ask about your fighting background and experience, etc. You probably believe in chi balls and no-touch K.O.s too.
LOL it is a banana tree. Nothing really impressive because it is an herbaceous plant. A human can break a small banana tree too with bare hands. ( ok, it is 10X easier for the gorilla, but still ).
On May 29 2008 12:31 Boblion wrote: LOL it is a banana tree. Nothing really impressive because it is an herbaceous plant. A human can break a small banana tree too with bare hands. ( ok, it is 10X easier for the gorilla, but still ).
It doesnt show the gorilla real strenght.
Have you ever even touched or seen a banana tree in real life? =_=
And yea Fedor doesnt look impressive when he isnt fighting. But when you see him fight you understand why he is a MMA genius and a robot. http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=1NIDp7ul6Q0
I dont think many human would have survived to this and won the fights.
I know this is off-topic kinda, but from the related links in your video I found this Fedor highlight..
400k views, 1200 votes and a perfect 5 stars. Not surprised, damn good video :D
As for the man vs chimp debate, how different are they in terms of getting knocked out? I mean, we do have sort of a decent reach advantage and a decent power in hands/legs. I'm not talking average chimp vs average human here as I'm assuming that would be a total destruction of the human xD, but say Crocop vs a normal chimp.
EPT
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