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ibutoss
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
Australia341 Posts
May 15 2008 07:33 GMT
#1
With razer sponsoring TSL and all, I feel better about owning a razer mouse so I was just wondering who else owns a razer mouse and what are your thoughts on it?

I used to have a razer diamondback and loved it but the buttons broke and I couldn't buy another one (was not in stock) so I got a DeathAdder instead. Not as good as my old one for sc (it's too big and heavy) but it's still a good mouse.

Anyone tried the krait yet for sc?
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EvilTeletubby
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Baltimore, USA22254 Posts
May 15 2008 07:53 GMT
#2
I have a copperhead, best mouse I've ever had.
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anotak
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States1537 Posts
May 15 2008 07:59 GMT
#3
i bought a diamondback on saturday but it hasn't arrived yet
Klogon
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
MURICA15980 Posts
May 15 2008 07:59 GMT
#4
When SC2 comes out, I might go order a limited edition copy and try to get a new Razer set-up to arrive the at the same time so I'm ready to go crazy.
mdb
Profile Blog Joined February 2003
Bulgaria4059 Posts
May 15 2008 08:04 GMT
#5
In fact I have the same question. Can someone please tell me what are the diffrencies between Diamondback and Copperhead. They are on the same price here, and yesterday I was staring 1 hour at the shop and couldnt decide which one to buy?
Taiche *
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
France1963 Posts
May 15 2008 08:18 GMT
#6
I have a Habu (Microsoft, but the hardware behind it is Razer's). Great mouse. I had (and still have) a Copperhead before and the Habu beats it in terms of ergonomy. Plus, as a SC player, I do not really need the 2000 dpi sensitivity, so...
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Profile Blog Joined April 2003
United States7366 Posts
May 15 2008 09:12 GMT
#7
diamondback

totally awesome
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paper
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
13196 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-05-15 09:14:41
May 15 2008 09:13 GMT
#8
razer since ... for the past 4 years or so

my diamondback's left click got messed up a couple years ago ... it sunk so low that it hit the bottom part and wouldnt click

other than that great mouse :D
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NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
May 15 2008 09:15 GMT
#9
I love Razer for sponsoring TSL but it won't get me to buy a mouse for 85$ .. sorry. Also I pretty much love my standard logitech.
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zdd
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
1463 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-05-15 09:20:26
May 15 2008 09:19 GMT
#10
On May 15 2008 18:15 G.s)NarutO wrote:
I love Razer for sponsoring TSL but it won't get me to buy a mouse for 85$ .. sorry. Also I pretty much love my standard logitech.

you don't have to spend $85, for example here's a diamondback on newegg for $38
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16826153029
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SnowFantasy
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
4173 Posts
May 15 2008 09:43 GMT
#11
On May 15 2008 16:53 EvilTeletubby wrote:
I have a copperhead, best mouse I've ever had.

These are my exact words.
Dreamer]
Profile Joined November 2005
Sweden358 Posts
May 15 2008 09:59 GMT
#12
my diamondback is my best friend
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Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
May 15 2008 12:37 GMT
#13
I remember in one of the "good deals" threads here there were diamondbacks going for 25usd (dunno about shipping)


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QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32073 Posts
May 15 2008 12:42 GMT
#14
Nah, but I'm gonna get one soon so that I don't have to pay to use this site. YOu know that's what razer's doing, right!??!?!

/conspiricy
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Shauni
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
4077 Posts
May 15 2008 12:53 GMT
#15
I have a brand new diamondback but I'm not even using it cause I think it sucks compared to microsoft intellimouse 3.0. Too big hands for a diamondback I think, even though I used one for a month or two I never got a good grasp on it and micro felt very flimsy. Plus they break very easily, the buttons stopped working (wouldn't click) after 2 months and I've heard many people have similiar problems.
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Kickstart
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1941 Posts
May 15 2008 12:56 GMT
#16
I am thinking about getting some new hardware and with Razer sponsoring TSL I would like to buy from them, but is it really going to cost me a fortune Oo? How much would say.. a mouse cost if I just went to the store to pick one up? (I might check to see if some stores have them listed online)
Hollow
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Canada2180 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-05-15 13:00:04
May 15 2008 12:59 GMT
#17
had a diamondback before, loved it but wasn't comfortable enough to my likings so I switched to the deathadder, even better.
Kacas
Profile Joined July 2003
Brazil3143 Posts
May 15 2008 13:04 GMT
#18
i have a copperhead...
for 2 years and a half!! it works brilliant...best mouse i ever had...

BUT....now Im having a problem with the left click too...sometimes it double clicks...sometimes when u drag..it release by itself...and u know...this sux for bw..(even for windows...closing 2 windows...a hell to select files...)

so....the mouse is AWESOME but for the price...last only 2 years? and i read about this problems all the time...so it happen a lot. (there´s a forum about razer...http://razerblueprints.net/ maybe..dont remember) you can see lots of complains about the same issue....

Im on a dillema right now...i cant use a worst mouse than razer now...(that means any other brand...and logitech mouses are way too big for my taste) but i dont think razer last long enought to be cost-effective....
its up to you =)
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Victor
Profile Joined November 2005
New Zealand1016 Posts
May 15 2008 13:06 GMT
#19
I got a Razer Lachesis for my birthday this year :D
Totally love it
Colbi
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States535 Posts
May 15 2008 13:44 GMT
#20
I use to use a diamondback and copperhead, but my favorite thus far is the krait. This is by far the best mouse I have ever had.
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Silent_Marine
Profile Joined April 2005
Vietnam281 Posts
May 15 2008 13:46 GMT
#21
Razer is nice choice . But I still wondering about differences between DB 3G and DB normal except difference in DPI , does standard infarred and 3G infarred have big difference ?
aseq
Profile Joined January 2003
Netherlands3980 Posts
May 15 2008 13:54 GMT
#22
I've got a DeathAdder, and i'm quite happy with it. My brother has a copperhead, and i prefer this one slightly. It's not that heavy or big. I haven't done much gaming with it tho, can't really say much about fast speeds...
Gryffindor_us
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
United States5606 Posts
May 15 2008 15:43 GMT
#23
If I were to buy a Razer mouse coming from a Logitech Mini Optical, which mouse would you guys (Razer owners) think I should purchase? I have large hands but I really do like the Mini Optical which is fairly small.
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Carnac
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
Germany / USA16648 Posts
May 15 2008 15:46 GMT
#24
On May 15 2008 18:12 Day[9] wrote:
diamondback

totally awesome

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intrigue
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Washington, D.C9934 Posts
May 15 2008 15:56 GMT
#25
i've got a krait and i gotta say it's peachyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
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bustaBust
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Canada469 Posts
May 15 2008 16:01 GMT
#26
On May 15 2008 16:53 EvilTeletubby wrote:
I have a copperhead, best mouse I've ever had.

Woyn
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United Kingdom1628 Posts
May 15 2008 16:05 GMT
#27
I have a krait but I also love using a diamondback
No_eL
Profile Joined July 2007
Chile1438 Posts
May 15 2008 16:17 GMT
#28
i have a microsoft comfort 3000 an i have a really good perfomance, but with all that thing about razer i really want a new surface and a new mouse XD
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Vin{MBL}
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
5185 Posts
May 15 2008 16:27 GMT
#29
What's the difference between a krait and a diamondback? The specs look the same to me...
Woyn
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United Kingdom1628 Posts
May 15 2008 16:31 GMT
#30
On May 16 2008 01:27 Vin{MBL} wrote:
What's the difference between a krait and a diamondback? The specs look the same to me...


Size and shape?
gusbear
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
333 Posts
May 15 2008 16:32 GMT
#31
been using the krait since it was launched and ive not felt the need to look for a replacement since then. it replaced my logitec G1 which has glossy buttons i dont like.
RaiZ
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
2813 Posts
May 15 2008 16:57 GMT
#32
Krait if you don't mind about not having side's buttons or else get either a copperhead, diamondback or a deathAdder.
I've a DeathAdder but don't really like it cauz the clicks are somewhat too light that i keep clicking on them unintentionnaly. Could be annoying in bw (i had a mx510 before, maybe that's why i'm too used to lay my finger on the button ?) so yeah takes what it feels the best for you.
If I could change my DeathAdder, i'd probably have gone for a copperhead (Not a Krait wtf ? No side's button is a big NONO for me, and since copperhead and krait are almost the same i don't understand why we would go for a krait unless you click very hard on the buttons and want it to be still functionnal for a (slighty) longer time)
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Showtime!
Profile Joined November 2007
Canada2938 Posts
May 15 2008 17:04 GMT
#33
Yeah, isn't the Razer Lachesis supposed to be the best one for people with big hands?
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RaGe
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Belgium9947 Posts
May 15 2008 17:16 GMT
#34
I have a razer/microsoft habu and it works well for my huge hands
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BrutalMenace
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United States1237 Posts
May 15 2008 17:28 GMT
#35
I think razer is the best at selling mouses. When it comes to looks and appeal to gamers they win because they are smart. Having said that, I think theyr products suck ass performancewise. I have huge, strong hands and it still feels ridiculously uncomfortable(diamondback + copperhead). Not to mention the ridiculous dpi settings; why the hell do they make it so u move 1 mm and the cursor already flies across the screen. Do most gamers play that way?

I dunno if it works for others i guess its just me. But i have 3 friends who own razer copperhead/db and they all stopped using hte mouse. I owned hte DB way back then, gave it a month and gave up.
artofmagic
Profile Blog Joined March 2005
United States1951 Posts
May 15 2008 17:35 GMT
#36
had a razer diamondback before.. but died for some reason. (when plugin.. it glows then.. the glows die off after a second)

currently using logitech g7. I don't pc game much, but i feel most logitech mouse contour is much better than razer(the olds ones, not sure about new ones).
evolve or die
Louder
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States2276 Posts
May 15 2008 18:01 GMT
#37
I have am MX500 that's 8 years old .. best mouse I've ever used. But I'm thinking of getting a Razer, my 500 has no feet left and it's wearing out my ExactMat. I want something similar in size/shape/weight... was eyeballing the DeathAdder. Not sure though o_O
Mindcrime
Profile Joined July 2004
United States6899 Posts
May 15 2008 18:20 GMT
#38
On May 16 2008 02:28 BrutalMenace wrote:
Not to mention the ridiculous dpi settings; why the hell do they make it so u move 1 mm and the cursor already flies across the screen. Do most gamers play that way?


Uh, what? High dpi mice allow you to make your cursor speed higher than low dpi mice, but there is absolutely nothing stopping you from lowering your cursor speed.
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Tropics
Profile Joined August 2007
United Kingdom1132 Posts
May 15 2008 18:44 GMT
#39
Personally, I'd wait and get the salmosa when it comes out.

It's what I'm doing.
BlackStar
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Netherlands3029 Posts
May 15 2008 18:47 GMT
#40
I used my boomslang until it fell apart.
Hollow
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Canada2180 Posts
May 15 2008 19:15 GMT
#41
On May 16 2008 03:01 Louder wrote:
I have am MX500 that's 8 years old .. best mouse I've ever used. But I'm thinking of getting a Razer, my 500 has no feet left and it's wearing out my ExactMat. I want something similar in size/shape/weight... was eyeballing the DeathAdder. Not sure though o_O


go for it. you won't regret it. it's the best razer mouse to switch to when you have been using a logitech before that.
YunhOLee
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Canada2470 Posts
May 15 2008 19:29 GMT
#42
I've been using a Razer Habu and Razer Reclusa for about one year now and i love both of them,
best mouse/keyboard i've ever had.
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Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States5770 Posts
May 15 2008 19:38 GMT
#43
On May 15 2008 22:46 Silent_Marine wrote:
Razer is nice choice . But I still wondering about differences between DB 3G and DB normal except difference in DPI , does standard infarred and 3G infarred have big difference ?


Yes but not for BW

the 3G sensor is capable of much faster accelerations in movements. Thus for people that play FPS games, if you use a low in-game sensitivity, you need to whip your mouse extremely fast across the mouse pad to turn around, or even to turn 90 degrees. Thus it's better to have a 3G sensor for FPS so you can turn faster and still have the mouse register it accurately.

But in BW all your movements are in a small area and are twitchy. You should be fine with the 2G sensor (3G stands for 3rd generation... so all mice on razer's site not labelled with 3G are 2nd generation sensors).

I've never owned a diamondback, but from trying out my friend's, I much prefer my copperhead just for the feel.

Also my lachesis is totally awesome too, tho better for FPS than for BW. I'd definitely recommend a copperhead.
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Heggie
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United Kingdom167 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-05-15 19:39:30
May 15 2008 19:38 GMT
#44
I'm using a Razer Krait and I love it.

It is quite a small mouse, which is perfect for me since I tend to move the mouse using my fingers rather than with a movement of my entire hand. The lack of side buttons is also no concern to me, allthough FPS players may resent this.

The only problem I have had is that the rubber ring that surround the mouse wheel came detached from the mouswheel itself. I was able to fix this with little effort by dismantling the mouse and using a small ammount of glue to stick them back together. No problem, but a little disapointing none the less.

I can use it on my varnished wooden desk without a mouse pad with no problem, allthough I do use one anyway most of the time.

I would definitely recomend it.
pyrogenetix
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
China5094 Posts
May 15 2008 19:50 GMT
#45
yea dont have a razer but ive tried them out and shit it's pretty good. crisp fuckin response.
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Cobalt
Profile Joined April 2008
United States441 Posts
May 15 2008 19:56 GMT
#46
Proud Diamondback owner. Though I'm not exactly sure I'm holding it correctly. I'm left-handed, but I've been brought up to use my right hand for the mouse my entire life.
Ancestral
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States3230 Posts
May 15 2008 20:04 GMT
#47
Patiently awaiting Salmosa?
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Retsukage
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States1002 Posts
May 15 2008 20:05 GMT
#48
Dimondback! w00t!
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iLjh
Profile Joined February 2008
United States160 Posts
May 15 2008 20:23 GMT
#49
satisfied razer copperhead customer for over a year
leviathan400
Profile Joined November 2006
United Kingdom393 Posts
May 15 2008 20:34 GMT
#50
I have a Razer Krait. Its great for FPS games like Quake 3 but im yet to switch to using it for RTS games. Tho I feel I should as in the long run I should be able to play faster. Its a nice speedy mouse.
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Motiva
Profile Joined November 2007
United States1774 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-05-15 20:43:02
May 15 2008 20:40 GMT
#51
I use a DeathAdder and it's the best mouse I've ever used....

I've briefly used a couple of Razer mice, but the feel of the DeathAdder is perfect. (Maybe my hands are bigger than the OP's, or I just prefer bigger, heavier mice [because I do])


^_^ I'd recommend the DeathAdder to anyone anytime. It was worth every penny of the difference between it and a standard "non-gaming" mouse
Psyonic_Reaver
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4336 Posts
May 15 2008 20:43 GMT
#52
Razer Lachesis

I find it perfect for FPS and any RTS game.
So wait? I'm bad? =(
Ack1027
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
United States7873 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-05-15 22:03:34
May 15 2008 22:01 GMT
#53
Razer is nice, but I was always a Logitech mouse fan.

I won a krait and a diamondback from a lan last year and had previously tried out first generation diamondbacks.

I completely dislike the pre-made cushion on the buttons on the diamondback. NOT the material, the material is really nice but they made an indent for your finger on the diamondbacks and the sides actually itch my finger. The arch on the mouse is rather low and far back [ I guess characteristic of razer ] but moreso than other razer mice.

The krait is a real winner. I would definitely have used this over my MX300 back in the day for starcraft. I recommend it only for RTS games. I used it on sc/dota and I was able to click small things in between units [ if you play dota you know what I mean ] that I was unable to with my current mx518. I use the 518 now but only because I mainly play cs:s and dota. I've also become used to using the back and forward buttons. But for pure gaming ability krait was a monster at starcraft and dota. It was decent at cs:s but I would prefer the 518.

I've heard the copperhead is a krait with the extra buttons, I've never used one though.

Also in mouse comparison tests mx518 usually comes out the winner when you tweak your usb port hz, also after accel and mousefixes.


Edit: Also the teflon feet of Razer mice is way better than Logitech mouse feet or even those you can buy. I think it's stupid to ever buy mouse feet unless they die out but the Razer ones were fucking slick.
Gryffindor_us
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
United States5606 Posts
May 16 2008 00:19 GMT
#54
Ugh, I went all over town looking for a diamondback and if a place sold it (best buy, circuit city, Fry's) they didn't have any in stock. I guess I gotta order it online. Maybe I'll order the Krait though if you genuinely prefer it Ack, since I come from a logitech mini optical.
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knyttym
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States5797 Posts
May 16 2008 00:22 GMT
#55
i have a deathadder.
its really kool but kind of big for my hands
anotak
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States1537 Posts
May 16 2008 00:24 GMT
#56
yay my diamondback just arrived
IzzyCraft
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4487 Posts
May 16 2008 00:27 GMT
#57
ill just keep my G9 but i guess their newest mouse is very sc friednly jsut 2 buttons and light with a good optical and feet
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MannerKiss
Profile Joined June 2003
United States2398 Posts
May 16 2008 00:38 GMT
#58
I have a Lachesis and i must say is the absolute best for playing ANY high res game. In order to get the same speed with new large and high res monitors you cant beat this mouse. 4000 DPI ftw :D
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Ack1027
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
United States7873 Posts
May 16 2008 00:46 GMT
#59
On May 16 2008 09:19 Gryffindor_us wrote:
Ugh, I went all over town looking for a diamondback and if a place sold it (best buy, circuit city, Fry's) they didn't have any in stock. I guess I gotta order it online. Maybe I'll order the Krait though if you genuinely prefer it Ack, since I come from a logitech mini optical.


Hey Gryff!
Do you not live in Sweden anymore? I say that because you say you visited very American stores lol.

Anyway, if you are used to a mini optical, I would highly suggest the krait. It's not a big hit on your wallet, and it's small light and really quick. I will warn you though there is no dpi control so it's always set at 1600dpi. For starcraft if you're not used to a FAST sensitivity [ You will have to lower it in-game ] it might be bad for you because even on the second knob I'd still consider it pretty fast.

If you don't mind about the money, the diamondback is a good mouse too I just didn't like it because of the physical aspects. Just hold both mice if you can before you buy!
DamageControL
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States4222 Posts
May 16 2008 00:49 GMT
#60
On May 15 2008 17:04 mdb wrote:
In fact I have the same question. Can someone please tell me what are the diffrencies between Diamondback and Copperhead. They are on the same price here, and yesterday I was staring 1 hour at the shop and couldnt decide which one to buy?

I have both and feel the copperhead offers better control. It has a higher...thing in the middle, where you hold the mouse. I like it more
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XDawn
Profile Blog Joined February 2004
Canada4040 Posts
May 16 2008 01:13 GMT
#61
I have a krait - it's pwnt.
Use it or lose it
funkie
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Venezuela9376 Posts
May 16 2008 01:26 GMT
#62
copperhead-

Best mouse I've ever owned.

If this one dies, I will get another one, but in a different color :D.
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ManaBlue
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Canada10458 Posts
May 16 2008 01:31 GMT
#63
On May 16 2008 00:46 Carnac wrote:
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On May 15 2008 18:12 Day[9] wrote:
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