With razer sponsoring TSL and all, I feel better about owning a razer mouse so I was just wondering who else owns a razer mouse and what are your thoughts on it?
I used to have a razer diamondback and loved it but the buttons broke and I couldn't buy another one (was not in stock) so I got a DeathAdder instead. Not as good as my old one for sc (it's too big and heavy) but it's still a good mouse.
In fact I have the same question. Can someone please tell me what are the diffrencies between Diamondback and Copperhead. They are on the same price here, and yesterday I was staring 1 hour at the shop and couldnt decide which one to buy?
I have a Habu (Microsoft, but the hardware behind it is Razer's). Great mouse. I had (and still have) a Copperhead before and the Habu beats it in terms of ergonomy. Plus, as a SC player, I do not really need the 2000 dpi sensitivity, so...
On May 15 2008 18:15 G.s)NarutO wrote: I love Razer for sponsoring TSL but it won't get me to buy a mouse for 85$ .. sorry. Also I pretty much love my standard logitech.
I have a brand new diamondback but I'm not even using it cause I think it sucks compared to microsoft intellimouse 3.0. Too big hands for a diamondback I think, even though I used one for a month or two I never got a good grasp on it and micro felt very flimsy. Plus they break very easily, the buttons stopped working (wouldn't click) after 2 months and I've heard many people have similiar problems.
I am thinking about getting some new hardware and with Razer sponsoring TSL I would like to buy from them, but is it really going to cost me a fortune Oo? How much would say.. a mouse cost if I just went to the store to pick one up? (I might check to see if some stores have them listed online)
i have a copperhead... for 2 years and a half!! it works brilliant...best mouse i ever had...
BUT....now Im having a problem with the left click too...sometimes it double clicks...sometimes when u drag..it release by itself...and u know...this sux for bw..(even for windows...closing 2 windows...a hell to select files...)
so....the mouse is AWESOME but for the price...last only 2 years? and i read about this problems all the time...so it happen a lot. (there´s a forum about razer...http://razerblueprints.net/ maybe..dont remember) you can see lots of complains about the same issue....
Im on a dillema right now...i cant use a worst mouse than razer now...(that means any other brand...and logitech mouses are way too big for my taste) but i dont think razer last long enought to be cost-effective.... its up to you =)
Razer is nice choice . But I still wondering about differences between DB 3G and DB normal except difference in DPI , does standard infarred and 3G infarred have big difference ?
I've got a DeathAdder, and i'm quite happy with it. My brother has a copperhead, and i prefer this one slightly. It's not that heavy or big. I haven't done much gaming with it tho, can't really say much about fast speeds...
If I were to buy a Razer mouse coming from a Logitech Mini Optical, which mouse would you guys (Razer owners) think I should purchase? I have large hands but I really do like the Mini Optical which is fairly small.
been using the krait since it was launched and ive not felt the need to look for a replacement since then. it replaced my logitec G1 which has glossy buttons i dont like.
Krait if you don't mind about not having side's buttons or else get either a copperhead, diamondback or a deathAdder. I've a DeathAdder but don't really like it cauz the clicks are somewhat too light that i keep clicking on them unintentionnaly. Could be annoying in bw (i had a mx510 before, maybe that's why i'm too used to lay my finger on the button ?) so yeah takes what it feels the best for you. If I could change my DeathAdder, i'd probably have gone for a copperhead (Not a Krait wtf ? No side's button is a big NONO for me, and since copperhead and krait are almost the same i don't understand why we would go for a krait unless you click very hard on the buttons and want it to be still functionnal for a (slighty) longer time)
I think razer is the best at selling mouses. When it comes to looks and appeal to gamers they win because they are smart. Having said that, I think theyr products suck ass performancewise. I have huge, strong hands and it still feels ridiculously uncomfortable(diamondback + copperhead). Not to mention the ridiculous dpi settings; why the hell do they make it so u move 1 mm and the cursor already flies across the screen. Do most gamers play that way?
I dunno if it works for others i guess its just me. But i have 3 friends who own razer copperhead/db and they all stopped using hte mouse. I owned hte DB way back then, gave it a month and gave up.
had a razer diamondback before.. but died for some reason. (when plugin.. it glows then.. the glows die off after a second)
currently using logitech g7. I don't pc game much, but i feel most logitech mouse contour is much better than razer(the olds ones, not sure about new ones).
I have am MX500 that's 8 years old .. best mouse I've ever used. But I'm thinking of getting a Razer, my 500 has no feet left and it's wearing out my ExactMat. I want something similar in size/shape/weight... was eyeballing the DeathAdder. Not sure though o_O
On May 16 2008 02:28 BrutalMenace wrote: Not to mention the ridiculous dpi settings; why the hell do they make it so u move 1 mm and the cursor already flies across the screen. Do most gamers play that way?
Uh, what? High dpi mice allow you to make your cursor speed higher than low dpi mice, but there is absolutely nothing stopping you from lowering your cursor speed.
On May 16 2008 03:01 Louder wrote: I have am MX500 that's 8 years old .. best mouse I've ever used. But I'm thinking of getting a Razer, my 500 has no feet left and it's wearing out my ExactMat. I want something similar in size/shape/weight... was eyeballing the DeathAdder. Not sure though o_O
go for it. you won't regret it. it's the best razer mouse to switch to when you have been using a logitech before that.
On May 15 2008 22:46 Silent_Marine wrote: Razer is nice choice . But I still wondering about differences between DB 3G and DB normal except difference in DPI , does standard infarred and 3G infarred have big difference ?
Yes but not for BW
the 3G sensor is capable of much faster accelerations in movements. Thus for people that play FPS games, if you use a low in-game sensitivity, you need to whip your mouse extremely fast across the mouse pad to turn around, or even to turn 90 degrees. Thus it's better to have a 3G sensor for FPS so you can turn faster and still have the mouse register it accurately.
But in BW all your movements are in a small area and are twitchy. You should be fine with the 2G sensor (3G stands for 3rd generation... so all mice on razer's site not labelled with 3G are 2nd generation sensors).
I've never owned a diamondback, but from trying out my friend's, I much prefer my copperhead just for the feel.
Also my lachesis is totally awesome too, tho better for FPS than for BW. I'd definitely recommend a copperhead.
It is quite a small mouse, which is perfect for me since I tend to move the mouse using my fingers rather than with a movement of my entire hand. The lack of side buttons is also no concern to me, allthough FPS players may resent this.
The only problem I have had is that the rubber ring that surround the mouse wheel came detached from the mouswheel itself. I was able to fix this with little effort by dismantling the mouse and using a small ammount of glue to stick them back together. No problem, but a little disapointing none the less.
I can use it on my varnished wooden desk without a mouse pad with no problem, allthough I do use one anyway most of the time.
Proud Diamondback owner. Though I'm not exactly sure I'm holding it correctly. I'm left-handed, but I've been brought up to use my right hand for the mouse my entire life.
I have a Razer Krait. Its great for FPS games like Quake 3 but im yet to switch to using it for RTS games. Tho I feel I should as in the long run I should be able to play faster. Its a nice speedy mouse.
I use a DeathAdder and it's the best mouse I've ever used....
I've briefly used a couple of Razer mice, but the feel of the DeathAdder is perfect. (Maybe my hands are bigger than the OP's, or I just prefer bigger, heavier mice [because I do])
^_^ I'd recommend the DeathAdder to anyone anytime. It was worth every penny of the difference between it and a standard "non-gaming" mouse
Razer is nice, but I was always a Logitech mouse fan.
I won a krait and a diamondback from a lan last year and had previously tried out first generation diamondbacks.
I completely dislike the pre-made cushion on the buttons on the diamondback. NOT the material, the material is really nice but they made an indent for your finger on the diamondbacks and the sides actually itch my finger. The arch on the mouse is rather low and far back [ I guess characteristic of razer ] but moreso than other razer mice.
The krait is a real winner. I would definitely have used this over my MX300 back in the day for starcraft. I recommend it only for RTS games. I used it on sc/dota and I was able to click small things in between units [ if you play dota you know what I mean ] that I was unable to with my current mx518. I use the 518 now but only because I mainly play cs:s and dota. I've also become used to using the back and forward buttons. But for pure gaming ability krait was a monster at starcraft and dota. It was decent at cs:s but I would prefer the 518.
I've heard the copperhead is a krait with the extra buttons, I've never used one though.
Also in mouse comparison tests mx518 usually comes out the winner when you tweak your usb port hz, also after accel and mousefixes.
Edit: Also the teflon feet of Razer mice is way better than Logitech mouse feet or even those you can buy. I think it's stupid to ever buy mouse feet unless they die out but the Razer ones were fucking slick.
Ugh, I went all over town looking for a diamondback and if a place sold it (best buy, circuit city, Fry's) they didn't have any in stock. I guess I gotta order it online. Maybe I'll order the Krait though if you genuinely prefer it Ack, since I come from a logitech mini optical.
I have a Lachesis and i must say is the absolute best for playing ANY high res game. In order to get the same speed with new large and high res monitors you cant beat this mouse. 4000 DPI ftw :D
On May 16 2008 09:19 Gryffindor_us wrote: Ugh, I went all over town looking for a diamondback and if a place sold it (best buy, circuit city, Fry's) they didn't have any in stock. I guess I gotta order it online. Maybe I'll order the Krait though if you genuinely prefer it Ack, since I come from a logitech mini optical.
Hey Gryff! Do you not live in Sweden anymore? I say that because you say you visited very American stores lol.
Anyway, if you are used to a mini optical, I would highly suggest the krait. It's not a big hit on your wallet, and it's small light and really quick. I will warn you though there is no dpi control so it's always set at 1600dpi. For starcraft if you're not used to a FAST sensitivity [ You will have to lower it in-game ] it might be bad for you because even on the second knob I'd still consider it pretty fast.
If you don't mind about the money, the diamondback is a good mouse too I just didn't like it because of the physical aspects. Just hold both mice if you can before you buy!
On May 15 2008 17:04 mdb wrote: In fact I have the same question. Can someone please tell me what are the diffrencies between Diamondback and Copperhead. They are on the same price here, and yesterday I was staring 1 hour at the shop and couldnt decide which one to buy?
I have both and feel the copperhead offers better control. It has a higher...thing in the middle, where you hold the mouse. I like it more