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I recently saw "I Am Legend", and afterwards i got to thinking. There has been a bunch of movies with similar plot like "28 Days Later" etc. In these movies humans gets infected by some kinda virus and it spreads really fast and soon most of the population is either dead or has turned into zombies.
During the zombie virus spreading, I assume people with different disabilities are the first to go. For example people with physical disabilities and also people with mental disabilities. This is related to darwinism and so on.
What im wondering is what happens to people with disabilities that turns into zombies. For example what happens to a person that is paralyzed from the waist down. It seems highly illogical that this person is suddenly cured when turned into a zombie.
Another thing that I'm wondering about is people with mental "problems". With this I mean different diseases like scizo, depressesion etc. But also people with brain damage, downs people etc.
Well what I would like to know more about is what happens to all the "abnormal" people that gets turned into zombies. How do they relate to "normal" zombies. Behavioural issues. Everything.
Can anyone shed some light on this?
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Lol, what a surreal topic, why don't you ask a scientist who specializes in zombies?
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Belgium8305 Posts
yes people can shed light on this because of the vast body of research that exists in this particular domain
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Well it says in The Zombie Survival Guide by Max Brooks (borrowed from a friend) that zombies are not going to gain any super powers and unless the person had super powers, he would not get it as a zombie.
But we have to look at the anatomy of a zombie, all but their brsain shuts down, which says that they can send messages to the spine, which seems to suggest that they wouldn't be healed. Although I think that they wouldn't know how to push a wheelchair if they were paralyzed face down
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hahahah
well, for mental disabilities, most of these abnormal "dark seekers" were reduced to basic mental abilities anyways, so i would say majority of these psychological disorders would simply go away. they simply run around trying to eat/kill everything that moves. they did display emotions such as anger tho, despite what will smith said in the movie.
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Well I have a phd in zombology, so let me explain this to you.
Zombies=
28 days later*********************I am legend
----------------------------- / --------------------------------------- X box office to COS A
Awesome rage virus**Cure for cancer gone wrong
What the above chart means is that I am Legend was stupid, and 28 days later had awesome zombies that had red eyes and ripped you apart limb from limb
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gakkgakk why don't you inhale that virus and tell us what happened to your mental disability?
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Zombies die before they awake. The don't simply turn into Zombies. Dead cells will be reactivated.. thats how I think it works.
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I'm no expert but I'd assume they simply carry on their disabilities into zombie-hood. Hollywood tends not to focus on these individuals since, relative to their healthy counterparts, their lives are not quite as exciting and thus in general do not make for good antagonists in action/horror movies. Great idea for a zombie-based soap opera though
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no zombies are zombies walking pieces of rotten flesh that like to eat you, they dont go no powers no mental capabilities, just walking hungry hobos ;(
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You are all fukin retarded lol
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I think the real question here is why are zombies faster and stronger than humans? How can a disease that destroys your body cause you gain physical abilities? I makes no sense.
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I've always had a concern about zombies:
Zombies are practically the same in every movie. They are the same even in fantasy books.
Ok, there are minor differences, such as the speed of move etc.
So, in a fantasy environment, zombies are reanimated with some kind of black magic. Ok. They move, eat, kill.
But in a modern environment, zombies are reanimated with viruses.. usually. After they die, they move, eat, kill. But they aren't moved by magic! Lol. They use the same organs, organsystems like before their death. But, if this is the case, how can they survive ripping off their hands, or other limbs. I never understand, why is only headshot effective against them.
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Scizo zombie... well that would be an interesting thing. Zombie do not feel pain and have very limited intelligence though(i know this from watching alot of zombie movies!) so dont know, maybe it wont be a problem for them seeing as well... they're plain dumb anyway?
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The zombiez in I am Legend weren't reanimated. The Viruses took over the people's bodies. Remember, Neville said it had a XX% kill rate, a XX% zombie rate, and a X% immunity rate.
Therefore, I assume that the retarded people, & people with disabilities would have been killed off, as their bodies may not have been able to handle the virus, etc.
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On December 31 2007 00:33 freelander wrote:
I've always had a concern about zombies:
Zombies are practically the same in every movie. They are the same even in fantasy books.
Ok, there are minor differences, such as the speed of move etc.
So, in a fantasy environment, zombies are reanimated with some kind of black magic. Ok. They move, eat, kill.
But in a modern environment, zombies are reanimated with viruses.. usually. After they die, they move, eat, kill. But they aren't moved by magic! Lol. They use the same organs, organsystems like before their death. But, if this is the case, how can they survive ripping off their hands, or other limbs. I never understand, why is only headshot effective against them.
I think it is because Zombies do not exist.
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You sir are a nonbeliever.
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On December 30 2007 23:43 20thCenturyBoy wrote:
Well I have a phd in zombology, so let me explain this to you.
Zombies=
28 days later*********************I am legend
----------------------------- / --------------------------------------- X box office to COS A
Awesome rage virus**Cure for cancer gone wrong
What the above chart means is that I am Legend was stupid, and 28 days later had awesome zombies that had red eyes and ripped you apart limb from limb
agreed 28days later is a great movie, I am legend is total garbage and i am a big fan of the zombie terror subgenre.
i also have a PHD in zombology and i give speeches on several universities about the latest results on the research of the field of the undead.
a body cannot move withouth electric impulses through the nerves no matter what controls the brain, so even if a virus controls the primitive brain of the human, the information wouldnt pass any kind of severed nerve, so NO, a person who cannot walk alive cannot walk as a zombie.
Mental diseases are however \"cured\" because as mentioned before, zombies work only on a very basic primitive brain, the maximium intelligence they show is using some primitive weaponary like axes, so something like downs syndrome wouldnt affect them at all.
What remains unanswered is if zombies can actually procreate.
We can assume that some of their organs are still working, otherwise the blood would solidfy and they would be unable to move... if we assume that then their reproductive organs might still work... so what comes out of a pregnant female zombie... o_oa
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On December 31 2007 01:01 FragKrag wrote:
The zombiez in I am Legend weren't reanimated. The Viruses took over the people's bodies. Remember, Neville said it had a XX% kill rate, a XX% zombie rate, and a X% immunity rate.
Therefore, I assume that the retarded people, & people with disabilities would have been killed off, as their bodies may not have been able to handle the virus, etc.
Well it could be that the extra chromosome makes downs people immune to death by the virus. So if its correct what he states then 90% of the earths population dies. Then this means the regular/downs ratio of the zombie population will be skewed compared to the regular/downs population among non-zombies.
But this is ofcourse only if the downs people are more resistant to zombie viruses than regular people.
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On December 31 2007 01:41 gakkgakk wrote:Show nested quote +On December 31 2007 01:01 FragKrag wrote:
The zombiez in I am Legend weren't reanimated. The Viruses took over the people's bodies. Remember, Neville said it had a XX% kill rate, a XX% zombie rate, and a X% immunity rate.
Therefore, I assume that the retarded people, & people with disabilities would have been killed off, as their bodies may not have been able to handle the virus, etc. Well it could be that the extra chromosome makes downs people immune to death by the virus. So if its correct what he states then 90% of the earths population dies. Then this means the regular/downs ratio of the zombie population will be skewed compared to the regular/downs population among non-zombies. But this is ofcourse only if the downs people are more resistant to zombie viruses than regular people.
Well, there isn't enough evidence to support any of our theories, so I'll just call you wrong ^_________^.
I just assumed the Virus took control of the brain, shut down most of the 'more' human functions, and replaced them with 'viral' functions. So, in essence, the viruses act through the zombiez.
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For starters, the creatures in I am Legend are not zombies, they are vampires.
Second, retards and cripples have their disabilities canceled out when infected with the T-virus.
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I think the people with mental disabilities would still technically have them, but it's canceled out by the fact everyone is retarded all of a sudden. If they were healed they would probably still have the disease.
Now that being said, people who are disabled zombies probably get picked on a lot, because really, no self respecting hero is going to fear a zombie without the use of their legs, or a zombie that can't walk straight, so those zombies are like useless.
As for why they can survive much more than an average human when it comes to getting chopped up or something. I think this is because their brain is so screwed up, they have only basic animal instincts which basically make them get even crazier when they are hurt. Seriously, ever seen a bear or a wolf or something wounded? They go crazy, they attack everything near them. And zombies don't care about their livelihood, so they might as well keep attacking no matter what.
more research needs to be done in this area.
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The creatures in I Am Legend are neither vampires nor zombies, since they aren't dead, yea? -_-
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On December 31 2007 03:47 sith wrote:
Now that being said, people who are disabled zombies probably get picked on a lot, because really, no self respecting hero is going to fear a zombie without the use of their legs, or a zombie that can't walk straight, so those zombies are like useless.
dozens, nay thousands, of would-be heroes have fallen prey to the dreaded ankle biter zombies. a zombie is to be feared, gimpy or not.
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Norway28667 Posts
okay really
28 days later and i am legend do not have zombies. they have virus infected people. in 28 days later they kind of behave like super quick zombies, but they're not DEAD. and in i am legend, it's more like vampyrism, but without any of the sophistication associated with vampires.
zombies are something entirely different. zombies are animated by necromancers and are living dead. none of their internal organs, nor brains, function past the most rudimentary functions, that is : they're able to identify and attack a non-zombie, and run away from a priest wielding a cross trying to turn them. as well as take simple commands such as "guard this place" or "don't attack white-cloaked people" if those commands are given by the necromancer that created them.
a zombie is created by the remnains of a body. it can even be several bodies tied together or whatever. any mental retardation would essentially be gone because a zombie is dumber than a retard. zombie-ism is kind of a way to even things out, cause everyone infected becomes equally dumb. physical retardation would depend. first of all real zombies, not the ones in 28 days later and i am legend, are slow moving and usually have some kind of limp anyway, and they are incapable of running. if a zombie lacked an arm when created, it lacks an arm as a zombie. if it was in a wheelchair because it was lame, but had all body parts as a person, it is able to move as a zombie, because what makes a zombie move is merely a connection between the body parts combined with dark magiks.
so i dont know what would happen with a rage or KV infected wheelchairie. but I have just explained what would happen with a real zombie.
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Zombies in the black magick sense are somewhat real. They are a part of Haitian culture and the process to create them is described by a Harvard professor doing research in the region in the 80's:
http://science.howstuffworks.com/zombie1.htm
Note that the zombies created are fairly retarded - there is no aggression - in fact some portion of their brain has deteriorated (think walking vegetable).
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Zombies from 28 Days/Months Later and from George Romero Movies=Awesome, scary, humanlike zombies that tear you apart from limb to limb. You never expect wats going to happen next, they come out of nowhere.
Zombies from I am Legend=Pitiful, unscary, Lord of the Rings orcishlike douchebags. They could have made it into an awesome movie and Smith did a great job in his role, but instead they royally fucked it up with a horrible script and dumblooking "zombies." You always see the "darkseekers" long before they do anything, and their just so inhuman that its lame.
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I love this thread, really. ^^
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could you suggest me good zombie movies?
this thread made me feel like watching some ^^
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Mental handicaps will not have an affect on zombies, as their brain capacity is already at a bare minimum.
Not only that, but physical handicaps don't really have an affect either. The virus will repair dead or damage cells, and it will heal whatever handicap.
Now I'm not saying that if a zombie had a limp chopped off, it would grow it back. That is gone forever.
All of a zombies organs are inert except for the brain. Cutting off a zombie's head would kill it pretty much, but its head could still bite. That's why only head shots work. It's where the virus is and it is what controls the zombie.
(Also the dark seekers are mutants  )
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On December 31 2007 04:43 freelander wrote:
I love this thread, really. ^^
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could you suggest me good zombie movies?
this thread made me feel like watching some ^^
Sure, look for any George A. Romero films. Try Night of the Living Dead, Dawn of the Dead,
Day of the Dead, and Land of the dead.
There are also some other films like Shaun of the Dead and the Resident Evil movies.
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I'm kind of agnostic towards zombism
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On December 31 2007 05:40 Rev0lution wrote:
I'm kind of agnostic towards zombism
Repent, for the day of zombie rapture will come and our Lord will descend from the heavens with shotguns and assault rifles to save the faithful.
Though the faithful will probably already have shotguns and assault rifles...oh well, the more the merrier.
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when will smith walked in to the dark building to chase sam i was fully expecting a great fucking zombie pop in ur face scene but no they had to fuck it up with a crappy 3d renedering of a piss weak zombie + the dog warns you before the zombie make his move.
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On December 31 2007 06:02 haduken wrote:
when will smith walked in to the dark building to chase sam i was fully expecting a great fucking zombie pop in ur face scene but no they had to fuck it up with a crappy 3d renedering of a piss weak zombie + the dog warns you before the zombie make his move.
I had the exact same expectation, I expected one of those awesome zombie nearly rips your face off and injures you before you kill it scenes, but instead we just have Will Smith running out of a window with retarded looking bitches behind him.
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thx for the film suggestions ! 
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Whether a zombie who previously had disabilities would be magically "healed" or not really depends on the type of zombie.
For example, in Resident Evil (at least the movie, I think the game has a slightly different explanation) where the T-virus was initially being developed as a cure for disability (by reanimating dead tissue, i.e. spinal nerves that no longer function), zombies that had disabilities would presumably be healed. (As would people exposed to the virus in small doses who weren't yet dead, like the girl in the second movie, who would otherwise have been crippled like her father.)
But in something like Dawn of the Dead (which never explains the origin of the zombies), it seems that the virus only affects the brain like a true zombie virus should, and so probably wouldn't result in magical "healing".
And then 28days/weeks later shouldn't really count, because they weren't true zombies as they never died. However, the virus did give the "zombies" superhuman endurance.
(I haven't seen I am Legend yet, but from what I've heard, it seems like the zombies are similar to those in 28 days)
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i haven't read any of the thread but it really depends on the type of zombie. for instance, the resident evil zombies would most likely keep their human disability, as that virus makes them slow but persistant. this depends on the disability, of course, because this virus is known to cure paralysis. disability other than that is up in the air, but i doubt it would help much. the rage zombies from 28 days later would likely have their disability cured as the virus makes them violent and pushes their physical capabilities over the limit.
as for mental disabilities, most types of zombies have very little cognitive function, and a disability would really have very little impact on that function. the zombies from i am legend pose a dilemma here though, as they retain quite a bit of cognitive function. it's likely that their basic needs (to feed, to avoid sunlight, etc) would be pervelent in even a mentally impaired i am legend zombie, but the ability to sick dogs on their prey (as in the movie) would be limitted to the zombies with higher cognitive ability.
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Zombie is not a medical disease , thus this is pointless
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I just saw 28 days later and 28 months later, AWESOME SHIT!!!!!
RAWR!!!!! ZOMBIES EVERYWHERE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111
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On December 31 2007 08:26 ilj.psa wrote:
Zombie is not a medical disease , thus this is pointless
I'll be laughing when I'm watching the zombies eat your brains.
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All zombies will soon be killed by Rekrul, I guess.
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