On December 06 2007 20:08 micronesia wrote: Ugh I hope this doesn't actually turn into another argument about whether or not a change in gun legislation would prevent this kind of incident.
On a related note, I wonder why so many more kids nowadays are suffering from adult mental health issues than in the past. Is it just because they are better diagnosed now?
Well its hard to paper cut 9 people to death in a mall.
The problem is they need to not sell weapons in general to people with depression or taking drugs for certain things.
so you suggest a psychological evaluation before purchasing a gun lol... yeah those are reaaaally hard to cheat on.
The problem is that only a retard would think you need an AK47 or a hand grenade for self defense!.
also statistically a gun in a house hold causes more death to family that owns it than from buglars, so there is no logical argument backing the possesion of such high powered weapons except the 1st amendment... a document wich clearly talks about the people's right to bear arm to defend from a potentionaly dangerous government (revolution).
however its not fucking 1800, some people with guns cannot overthrow the government of the united states, thats now how the world works anymore the constitution is clearly outdated.
I don't know the laws in Nebraska, but Here in Cali you can't own an automatic weapon.
And about your statistic claim about the burglars and family, Thats because people don't take care of their things properly (or teach their kids etc). That and the fact that its not that likely to have a burglar rob your home (out of millions). Thats like banning golfing because you can get hit by lightning.
Yes obviously the reason more people die is because they dont take care of their guns properly duh.... but if something that is supoused to STOP deaths is actually causing more... then common sense says WTF... that shit aint working, lets not do it.
On December 06 2007 20:17 FrEaK[S.sIR] wrote: I think it's because parent's don't beat their kids enough and children are taught that they are special and that their thoughts and views are more important than everybody else's. It leaves them with an extremely bloated sense of self worth and entitlement.
Then it all blows up in their face as the real world shows them what they're really worth. Realizing that you're a pathetic waste of skin is a hard pill to swallow. Beat your kids people. It's for their own good.
EDIT: There is a huge difference between physical discipline and physical abuse by the way.
On December 06 2007 20:12 Plexa wrote: enter one of; - fuck george bush - fuck NRA - fuck rednecks - its society's fault - witty comment
its shit like this which depresses me -.-; oh and don't forget the followup drama thats associated with this shit. I'm reminded of bowling for columbine, well more precisely marilyn manson, why can we have more people like him =[
Marilyn Manson rightfully did blame society :p
Not to derail the thread or anything but hes talking about the kind of shit that was used post 9/11 in 1999. Everyone was afraid of terrorists and shit and they allowed all this war crap to happen because of it. Its no wonder conspiracy theorists believe in this stuff so much.
On December 06 2007 20:08 micronesia wrote: Ugh I hope this doesn't actually turn into another argument about whether or not a change in gun legislation would prevent this kind of incident.
On a related note, I wonder why so many more kids nowadays are suffering from adult mental health issues than in the past. Is it just because they are better diagnosed now?
Well its hard to paper cut 9 people to death in a mall.
The problem is they need to not sell weapons in general to people with depression or taking drugs for certain things.
so you suggest a psychological evaluation before purchasing a gun lol... yeah those are reaaaally hard to cheat on.
The problem is that only a retard would think you need an AK47 or a hand grenade for self defense!.
also statistically a gun in a house hold causes more death to family that owns it than from buglars, so there is no logical argument backing the possesion of such high powered weapons except the 1st amendment... a document wich clearly talks about the people's right to bear arm to defend from a potentionaly dangerous government (revolution).
however its not fucking 1800, some people with guns cannot overthrow the government of the united states, thats now how the world works anymore the constitution is clearly outdated.
I don't know the laws in Nebraska, but Here in Cali you can't own an automatic weapon.
And about your statistic claim about the burglars and family, Thats because people don't take care of their things properly (or teach their kids etc). That and the fact that its not that likely to have a burglar rob your home (out of millions). Thats like banning golfing because you can get hit by lightning.
Yes obviously the reason more people die is because they dont take care of their guns properly duh.... but if something that is supoused to STOP deaths is actually causing more... then common sense says WTF... that shit aint working, lets not do it.
No, you don't ban something because a few idiots fuck it up. Besides with all the America bashing (us being stupid) maybe its better that these stupid asses kill themselves and others.
On December 06 2007 20:08 micronesia wrote: Ugh I hope this doesn't actually turn into another argument about whether or not a change in gun legislation would prevent this kind of incident.
On a related note, I wonder why so many more kids nowadays are suffering from adult mental health issues than in the past. Is it just because they are better diagnosed now?
Well its hard to paper cut 9 people to death in a mall.
The problem is they need to not sell weapons in general to people with depression or taking drugs for certain things.
so you suggest a psychological evaluation before purchasing a gun lol... yeah those are reaaaally hard to cheat on.
The problem is that only a retard would think you need an AK47 or a hand grenade for self defense!.
also statistically a gun in a house hold causes more death to family that owns it than from buglars, so there is no logical argument backing the possesion of such high powered weapons except the 1st amendment... a document wich clearly talks about the people's right to bear arm to defend from a potentionaly dangerous government (revolution).
however its not fucking 1800, some people with guns cannot overthrow the government of the united states, thats now how the world works anymore the constitution is clearly outdated.
Please enlighten us baal with how the world works, obviously you were not beat as a child. You cant just end with such a broad statement. I choose to place the blame on bush... why you say? Because there were no emo kids before he came into office thats why.
On December 06 2007 20:12 Plexa wrote: enter one of; - fuck george bush - fuck NRA - fuck rednecks - its society's fault - witty comment
its shit like this which depresses me -.-; oh and don't forget the followup drama thats associated with this shit. I'm reminded of bowling for columbine, well more precisely marilyn manson, why can we have more people like him =[
Not to derail the thread or anything but hes talking about the kind of shit that was used post 9/11 in 1999. Everyone was afraid of terrorists and shit and they allowed all this war crap to happen because of it. Its no wonder conspiracy theorists believe in this stuff so much.
On December 06 2007 20:12 Plexa wrote: enter one of; - fuck george bush - fuck NRA - fuck rednecks - its society's fault - witty comment
its shit like this which depresses me -.-; oh and don't forget the followup drama thats associated with this shit. I'm reminded of bowling for columbine, well more precisely marilyn manson, why can we have more people like him =[
Not to derail the thread or anything but hes talking about the kind of shit that was used post 9/11 in 1999. Everyone was afraid of terrorists and shit and they allowed all this war crap to happen because of it. Its no wonder conspiracy theorists believe in this stuff so much.
1999 ?
Oh, well the movie came out in 2002 but the shooting took place in 1999. Not sure when the interview took place though. Nevermind it if I'm wrong.
On December 06 2007 20:08 micronesia wrote: Ugh I hope this doesn't actually turn into another argument about whether or not a change in gun legislation would prevent this kind of incident.
On a related note, I wonder why so many more kids nowadays are suffering from adult mental health issues than in the past. Is it just because they are better diagnosed now?
Well its hard to paper cut 9 people to death in a mall.
The problem is they need to not sell weapons in general to people with depression or taking drugs for certain things.
so you suggest a psychological evaluation before purchasing a gun lol... yeah those are reaaaally hard to cheat on.
The problem is that only a retard would think you need an AK47 or a hand grenade for self defense!.
also statistically a gun in a house hold causes more death to family that owns it than from buglars, so there is no logical argument backing the possesion of such high powered weapons except the 1st amendment... a document wich clearly talks about the people's right to bear arm to defend from a potentionaly dangerous government (revolution).
however its not fucking 1800, some people with guns cannot overthrow the government of the united states, thats now how the world works anymore the constitution is clearly outdated.
Please enlighten us baal with how the world works, obviously you were not beat as a child. You cant just end with such a broad statement. I choose to place the blame on bush... why you say? Because there were no emo kids before he came into office thats why.
you are really lol i don't even know what to say to that. what kind of ridiculous argument is that and how do you even support that
On December 06 2007 20:12 Plexa wrote: enter one of; - fuck george bush - fuck NRA - fuck rednecks - its society's fault - witty comment
its shit like this which depresses me -.-; oh and don't forget the followup drama thats associated with this shit. I'm reminded of bowling for columbine, well more precisely marilyn manson, why can we have more people like him =[
Not to derail the thread or anything but hes talking about the kind of shit that was used post 9/11 in 1999. Everyone was afraid of terrorists and shit and they allowed all this war crap to happen because of it. Its no wonder conspiracy theorists believe in this stuff so much.
1999 ?
Oh, well the movie came out in 2002 but the shooting took place in 1999. Not sure when the interview took place though. Nevermind it if I'm wrong.
i suppose the overall message is, you can't sedate todays problems with drugs - be it weed or anti-depressents
I can't believe the retards talking about beating kids being acceptable...wtf are you smoking? If you can't teach discipline without having to use your hands for beating, you suck man. Bigtime.
Im sad that this thread is even made, i was hoping that people didn't need public opinion to know if what this kid did was right or wrong or funny. Just beat your kids stfu (and also keep a 45 around incase the 4th Reich is reined in or some insane robber with a knife or gun comes at you), and maybe just maybe the next generation will be better... Only in America.
On December 06 2007 20:12 Plexa wrote: enter one of; - fuck george bush - fuck NRA - fuck rednecks - its society's fault - witty comment
its shit like this which depresses me -.-; oh and don't forget the followup drama thats associated with this shit. I'm reminded of bowling for columbine, well more precisely marilyn manson, why can we have more people like him =[
Not to derail the thread or anything but hes talking about the kind of shit that was used post 9/11 in 1999. Everyone was afraid of terrorists and shit and they allowed all this war crap to happen because of it. Its no wonder conspiracy theorists believe in this stuff so much.
Anti-consumerism isnt something new. Try Karl Marx, 19th century.
On December 06 2007 20:57 Naib wrote: I can't believe the retards talking about beating kids being acceptable...wtf are you smoking? If you can't teach discipline without having to use your hands for beating, you suck man. Bigtime.
On December 06 2007 20:57 Naib wrote: I can't believe the retards talking about beating kids being acceptable...wtf are you smoking? If you can't teach discipline without having to use your hands for beating, you suck man. Bigtime.
I didn't say acceptable. I said necessary.
My mother (who graduates into calculated moments of insanity every now and then) still physically attacks me when I am in my twenties. Is it all right if I slug her one to show her discipline?
The point is, I was as more reasonable than her at 12 as I am at 22. She clobbered me then because I was weaker and I can clobber her now because I am stronger. It would be nice if force were linked to powers of reason and virtue, but most of the time force is used for no better reason than someone being stronger than someone else.
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