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dronebabo
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Mayson
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MoRe_mInErAls
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IntoTheWow
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SirKibbleX
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Mayson
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No one here is advocating easy access to firearms. I personally advocate the placement of small "hurdles" in the way of law-abiding citizens seeking firearms ownership to weed out the irresponsible, or otherwise not committed people. I also advocate the enforcement of laws in place, rather than adding new laws to the equation that won't be enforced.  | ||
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boghat
United States2109 Posts
No, because people are already evil, how hard is this to figure out? And I'm not being sarcastic, people are stupid jerks and putting guns in their hands doesn't help. | ||
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Mayson
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- baseball bats - automobiles - gasoline - kerosene - diesel fuel - black powder - lighters - firecrackers - plastic bags (those warnings must be there for a reason) If people are inherently stupid, the gun obviously isn't the problem. | ||
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RowdierBob
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Mayson
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Criminals seek firearms to scare, intimidate, and coerce others through the threat of deadly force. Law-abiding citizens do not. That is the distinction. | ||
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DeadVessel
United States6269 Posts
On December 10 2007 10:01 Mayson wrote: The same argument could be made for: - baseball bats - automobiles - gasoline - kerosene - diesel fuel - black powder - lighters - firecrackers - plastic bags (those warnings must be there for a reason) If people are inherently stupid, the gun obviously isn't the problem. BAGGED! | ||
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Mayson
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http://wacki.wordpress.com/2006/12/17/swimming-pool-is-100-times-more-deadly-than-guns/ | ||
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FrEaK[S.sIR]
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On December 10 2007 10:02 RowdierBob wrote: Guns are made the kill though, those aren't. Should we ban swords? | ||
Manifesto7
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boghat
United States2109 Posts
On December 10 2007 10:01 Mayson wrote: The same argument could be made for: - baseball bats - automobiles - gasoline - kerosene - diesel fuel - black powder - lighters - firecrackers - plastic bags (those warnings must be there for a reason) If people are inherently stupid, the gun obviously isn't the problem. Dude, heed my suggestion in my previous post, don't make stupid comparisons. Guns are able to kill people much much easier than any of those. Yeah I guess you could try to somehow drive a car into a crowd of people or whatever, I don't really want to argue the logistics of it, the point is that's not really a good rebuttal. Same argument as above but I don't give a shit if they are banned, they serve no useful purpose but to kill. This is again a really pointless rebuttal though. [edit] And just to make this clear I am basically just arguing whether guns or any weapons should be banned if for some reason there is little or no crime. I'm not trying to argue the relevant argument. | ||
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Mayson
312 Posts
The fact remains: firearms have never been the problem with regards to stupid behavior or criminal activity. Either remains, whether firearms are present or otherwise. | ||
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FrEaK[S.sIR]
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boghat
United States2109 Posts
On December 10 2007 10:13 FrEaK[S.sIR] wrote: They are able to kill people much more easily? You know most of the stuff he listed is explosive, right? Yeah, I'm aware of that, but as RowdierBob said at least those other things have useful purposes. People aren't suicide bombing here in the United States though, they are shooting up places with guns, so that's kind of a different topic alltogether. | ||
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FrEaK[S.sIR]
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Mayson
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But the problem still is an individual's behavior, not the tool used to commit a crime. | ||
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