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KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43199 Posts
January 17 2025 20:43 GMT
#901
Wait, so is his time too valuable to play video games or not? Because he’s not saying “I care about this game but I’m super rich and super busy so I bought this cool gear”. He’s saying “I spend all my time playing this game and know a lot about it why is this item so hard to pick up let me keep clicking on it over and over that’s weird also the game won’t let me into level 4 even though I just completed the preceding level which was 2 is this broken”.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
Zambrah
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States7376 Posts
January 17 2025 20:47 GMT
#902
On January 18 2025 05:34 Timebon3s wrote:
Because he’s rich as hell. When you have loads of money, you get people to do stuff for you so you don’t have to.

Just like those wow “pros” back in the day getting world first kills. They bought gold, so they could focus on more important things.


Why did he lie about it
Incremental change is the Democrat version of Trickle Down economics.
Timebon3s
Profile Joined May 2018
Norway747 Posts
January 17 2025 20:51 GMT
#903
Why not? He’s rich and winning at life. He can say whatever he feels like. It’s a video game, everyone talks shit online, he’s just taking that shit to the streets, incorporating it into real life like a true gamer.
Magic Powers
Profile Joined April 2012
Austria4478 Posts
January 17 2025 20:57 GMT
#904
On January 18 2025 05:34 Timebon3s wrote:
Because he’s rich as hell. When you have loads of money, you get people to do stuff for you so you don’t have to.

Just like those wow “pros” back in the day getting world first kills. They bought gold, so they could focus on more important things.


More important things indeed, very true. Such as bragging on JRE about his world class gamer skills and exploding when he gets exposed. Like a well adjusted adult who's got his priorities straight.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/BtxLog1H03w

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/oYy9xxS1U2I
If you want to do the right thing, 80% of your job is done if you don't do the wrong thing.
Timebon3s
Profile Joined May 2018
Norway747 Posts
January 17 2025 21:02 GMT
#905
He’s a genius bro. Mabye he isn’t well adjusted by god damn he gets shit done. Did you see that rocket backing into the launch pad. That was amazing.


KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43199 Posts
January 17 2025 21:11 GMT
#906
On January 18 2025 05:51 Timebon3s wrote:
Why not?

Because it’s absolutely pathetic.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
Byo
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Canada209 Posts
January 17 2025 21:17 GMT
#907
Perhaps it's a 5head move as there's no such thing as bad publicity. But would he uses his own ego as an expense is the part that seems unlikely to me.
Timebon3s
Profile Joined May 2018
Norway747 Posts
January 17 2025 21:23 GMT
#908
On January 18 2025 06:11 KwarK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2025 05:51 Timebon3s wrote:
Why not?

Because it’s absolutely pathetic.

That’s rich coming from a stream cheater xD
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9713 Posts
January 17 2025 21:32 GMT
#909
I dunno what you guys are still arguing about this was solved on the last page.
RIP Meatloaf <3
Magic Powers
Profile Joined April 2012
Austria4478 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-01-17 21:33:55
January 17 2025 21:33 GMT
#910
On January 18 2025 06:02 Timebon3s wrote:
He’s a genius bro. Mabye he isn’t well adjusted by god damn he gets shit done. Did you see that rocket backing into the launch pad. That was amazing.
https://youtu.be/RYUr-5PYA7s?si=nCG7bWjlJkRBg4b6


Elon's entire contribution is delivering paychecks to the engineers who actually accomplished this amazing feat. There are thousands of other rich people who could've paid them. He's entirely replaceable. Fire him from the company and literally nothing changes.
If you want to do the right thing, 80% of your job is done if you don't do the wrong thing.
Dan HH
Profile Joined July 2012
Romania9135 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-01-17 21:53:13
January 17 2025 21:37 GMT
#911
On January 18 2025 06:32 Jockmcplop wrote:
I dunno what you guys are still arguing about this was solved on the last page.

It's low effort bait. When the shoe is on the other foot they never question why lying is bad, or raping is bad, or whether anything matters anyway.
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9713 Posts
January 17 2025 21:49 GMT
#912
On January 18 2025 06:37 Dan HH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2025 06:32 Jockmcplop wrote:
I dunno what you guys are still arguing about this was solved on the last page.

It's low effort bait. When the shoe is on the other foot they never question why lying is bad, or raping is bad, is whether anything matters anyway.

Nah dude he linked us the dictionary definition of loser, that's kind of the killing blow for this discussion really.
RIP Meatloaf <3
Zambrah
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States7376 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-01-17 22:18:07
January 17 2025 22:10 GMT
#913
On January 18 2025 05:51 Timebon3s wrote:
Why not? He’s rich and winning at life. He can say whatever he feels like. It’s a video game, everyone talks shit online, he’s just taking that shit to the streets, incorporating it into real life like a true gamer.


Winners who are secure with themselves dont tell lies about being good at games lmao

Elon's entire contribution is delivering paychecks to the engineers who actually accomplished this amazing feat. There are thousands of other rich people who could've paid them. He's entirely replaceable. Fire him from the company and literally nothing changes.


Nah man, Elon does have one primary talent and its being really, really good at convincing dipshits with money that he's a giga-genius.
Incremental change is the Democrat version of Trickle Down economics.
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43199 Posts
January 17 2025 23:09 GMT
#914
On January 18 2025 06:23 Timebon3s wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2025 06:11 KwarK wrote:
On January 18 2025 05:51 Timebon3s wrote:
Why not?

Because it’s absolutely pathetic.

That’s rich coming from a stream cheater xD

You have me confused with someone else.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland25967 Posts
January 17 2025 23:12 GMT
#915
On January 18 2025 06:17 Byo wrote:
Perhaps it's a 5head move as there's no such thing as bad publicity. But would he uses his own ego as an expense is the part that seems unlikely to me.

Of all the stock phrases in the lexicon, this is one of the more frequently inaccurate ones.

There’s a lot of downside and very little up for some of his recent, or semi-recent nonsense.

Take a guy who already had an ego the size of a planet, and give him millions of fanboys and fangals who’ll suck him off for anything he does and he’ll get an even bigger ego and get even worse.

Not to especially criticise him for this, I think most humans would struggle to maintain some equilibrium with that level of power and adoration.

4D inter-dimensional backgammon and its various variants is one of the great copes of our era. It’s invocation is far more often than not either an anti-Occam’s Razor at best, or at worst deflection and equivocation from folks who won’t, or perhaps can’t admit that they’ll give asinine or malicious behaviour a complete pass.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22086 Posts
January 18 2025 04:04 GMT
#916
Power corrupts without exception. The question is whether you want to believe he isn‘t a hedonist or rather buy the facade of virtue. I‘m a fan of the veiled hedonist hypothesis. Takes one to know one.

My biggest issue is that the government factor is so hollowed out nowadays due to the sanctity of money that folk with enough of it can just buy political influence and entire online platforms and plaster your newsfeed with their mugs on the daily. Who the fuck cares if your rocket just exploded, your country is burning bro.
Biff The Understudy
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France7917 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-01-18 05:24:49
January 18 2025 05:17 GMT
#917
On January 18 2025 07:10 Zambrah wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2025 05:51 Timebon3s wrote:
Why not? He’s rich and winning at life. He can say whatever he feels like. It’s a video game, everyone talks shit online, he’s just taking that shit to the streets, incorporating it into real life like a true gamer.


Winners who are secure with themselves dont tell lies about being good at games lmao

Show nested quote +
Elon's entire contribution is delivering paychecks to the engineers who actually accomplished this amazing feat. There are thousands of other rich people who could've paid them. He's entirely replaceable. Fire him from the company and literally nothing changes.


Nah man, Elon does have one primary talent and its being really, really good at convincing dipshits with money that he's a giga-genius.

Pretty much. He is to business what Trump is to politics. A man child with a huge and fragile ego that has a special talent at convincing mediocre people that he is some kind of genius. At the end they are great salesmen that found a niche in this rather stupid age.
The fellow who is out to burn things up is the counterpart of the fool who thinks he can save the world. The world needs neither to be burned up nor to be saved. The world is, we are. Transients, if we buck it; here to stay if we accept it. ~H.Miller
oBlade
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States5757 Posts
January 18 2025 05:47 GMT
#918
On January 18 2025 06:33 Magic Powers wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2025 06:02 Timebon3s wrote:
He’s a genius bro. Mabye he isn’t well adjusted by god damn he gets shit done. Did you see that rocket backing into the launch pad. That was amazing.
https://youtu.be/RYUr-5PYA7s?si=nCG7bWjlJkRBg4b6


Elon's entire contribution is delivering paychecks to the engineers who actually accomplished this amazing feat. There are thousands of other rich people who could've paid them. He's entirely replaceable. Fire him from the company and literally nothing changes.

If your assertion that he were replaceable held water, then from all the electric car startups

+ Show Spoiler +
Tesla, Inc.
Rivian
Lucid Motors
Faraday Future
Fisker Inc.
Canoo
Lordstown Motors
Arrival
Bollinger Motors
Aptera Motors
Proterra
Workhorse Group
Nikola Corporation
Karma Automotive
ElectraMeccanica
Sono Motors


and from all the space startups

+ Show Spoiler +
Blue Origin
SpaceX
Rocket Lab
Virgin Galactic
Relativity Space
Axiom Space
Sierra Space
Firefly Aerospace
Planet Labs
Rocket Crafters
Vector Launch
SpinLaunch
Momentus
Isar Aerospace
Skyrora
Orbex
Relativity Space
Astra


there would already have been a wildly successful company that shot to the top of its market headed by someone other than him, especially for example Virgin Galactic because Branson was richer when he founded it (presuming that wealth is the requisite). This is the only evidence we could look for, because to hold the controlled experiment of actually replacing him would require shareholder votes that you don't have at the moment. And the evidence isn't there. There's no companies that have done anywhere close to the same thing. If he were replaceable, there would have to be one in the list by chance alone. There isn't. The two meteoric breakouts in each field have only one thing in common.
"I read it. You know how to read, you ignorant fuck?" - Andy Dufresne
Falling
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada11369 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-01-18 18:12:42
January 18 2025 07:18 GMT
#919
On January 18 2025 05:51 Timebon3s wrote:
Why not? He’s rich and winning at life. He can say whatever he feels like. It’s a video game, everyone talks shit online, he’s just taking that shit to the streets, incorporating it into real life like a true gamer.

And he's getting blown up online like any fake pay to play gamer that claimed to have l33t skills but turned out to just be a whale. So there it is. (I'm sure you'd give equal deference and defence to any video game critic that turned out to have barely played the game but instead used other people's footage to build up their cred as a legit critic...)

Your 'why not' really only explains Elon being a whale... truly the apex predator amongst gamers... But it doesn't at all explain how he thought he could stream himself gaming and still maintain the illusion. He's either that dumb or he's that dumb to think we're that dumb. Either way, he's played the fool.

Unforced error on his part. He's winning in wealth, so then win in wealth and brag about how you can pay people to level up your accounts with 'F-you' money so that he can pwn newbs in a hot-tub with hot chicks or whatever when he has 15 minutes to spare. u mad bro?

But no. That's not what he did. He was a poser. He actually thought he could fool us with his fakery and still you fawn over him.

I see your Webster and raise you Boethius on wealth and the good life.
"Then wealth cannot give a man everything and make him entirely self-sufficient, even though this is what money seems to promise... since every day those who are powerful enough snatch it from those who are weaker... well then the situation is upside down; for riches, which are supposed to make men self-sufficient, actually make them dependent on the help of others."
And then
"I do not press the point that, although nature makes very modest demands, avarice is never satisfied. My present point is simply this: if riches cannot eliminate need, but on the contrary make new demands, what makes you suppose that they can provide satisfaction?


Elon has wealth alright but seems to crave a sort of acceptance he cannot buy. Elon did not come to us as some lofty "I'm so rich, when I play video games, I don't even play them." He claimed he was one of the boys, one of the lads, only he's better than us because he's the world's richest man, and then turned to the video gaming world and conquered that too with his l33t skilz.

But he's a sham. A fake. A poser. And so, yes, for all his wealth. Still a loser.
Wealth could not bring him satisfaction.
Moderator"In Trump We Trust," says the Golden Goat of Mars Lago. Have faith and believe! Trump moves in mysterious ways. Like the wind he blows where he pleases...
Elroi
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden5599 Posts
January 18 2025 08:12 GMT
#920
Can't he be both a megalomaniac fake gamer with clear narcissistic tendencies and one of the most successful industrialists in history? I'm sure there are aspects of his almost pathological belief in himself that has lead him to so much success.
"To all eSports fans, I want to be remembered as a progamer who can make something out of nothing, and someone who always does his best. I think that is the right way of living, and I'm always doing my best to follow that." - Jaedong. /watch?v=jfghAzJqAp0
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