On July 25 2022 18:27 Simberto wrote: Also, i don't understand why you bring your personal judgement of the people from Taiwan in here, that is 0 percent relevant. Judging people by nationality is always problematic. And using sentences like "their boys are sissy" tends to reflect negatively only onto you.
yes I am not a serious man, do not judge me I think I not a very typical Chinese.
I don't know, i don't judge people based on their nationality.
oops,here's jumps out another misunderstanding. I didn't mean "do not judge me (by my nationality)", I mean "do not judge me (by my words) . Though I don't think we Chinese are right on everything, I am still very pround of my nationality.
If you were to openly voice that sentiment that you think Taiwan is a different country from the PRC, and the best solution would be to just sign a treaty where Taiwan renounces any claims on PRC territory and the PRC renounces any claims on Taiwan territory, in China and on the chinese internet, how well do you think that would go for you? Would this have negative impacts on your life, safety and future career?
if you want to murder me you can speak it out directly lol
So why are you trying to convince us that China is the best and nothing shady is going on when you believe you can be killed for voicing the wrong opinion ?
haha it was a cold joke. It's actually not practical. Such action will be like committing a social suicide. what should you plan to do? Yelling slogans on the street with a banner?- before police come to you you will be abused by people, old people pick a random brick knock on your head? Or people pushed you to police, they will ask you if you are mentally disordered or something? If you insist on doing so.... there is a "Anti-secession Law" waiting for you. So you decide to show your thoughts on the web, you keep posting and posting, nomatter how many your post deleted, then someday will be someone call you to "have a cup of tea". But BEFORE all official things happens, you will be choking in the spit of millions. Believe me you won't like to do this, worse than being killed. I know there are always some chinese people protesting in foreign lands holding a banner of political persecution or even dressed in bloodstain shirts at trainstations, trying to swindle some money from people's sympathy. It's really fking disgusting that some people do fking anything for money, didn't even have the grace to look embarrassed for insulting the land that breeded him.
On July 25 2022 18:27 Simberto wrote: Also, i don't understand why you bring your personal judgement of the people from Taiwan in here, that is 0 percent relevant. Judging people by nationality is always problematic. And using sentences like "their boys are sissy" tends to reflect negatively only onto you.
yes I am not a serious man, do not judge me I think I not a very typical Chinese.
I don't know, i don't judge people based on their nationality.
oops,here's jumps out another misunderstanding. I didn't mean "do not judge me (by my nationality)", I mean "do not judge me (by my words) . Though I don't think we Chinese are right on everything, I am still very pround of my nationality.
If you were to openly voice that sentiment that you think Taiwan is a different country from the PRC, and the best solution would be to just sign a treaty where Taiwan renounces any claims on PRC territory and the PRC renounces any claims on Taiwan territory, in China and on the chinese internet, how well do you think that would go for you? Would this have negative impacts on your life, safety and future career?
if you want to murder me you can speak it out directly lol
So why are you trying to convince us that China is the best and nothing shady is going on when you believe you can be killed for voicing the wrong opinion ?
haha it was a cold joke. It's actually not practical. Such action will be like committing a social suicide. what should you plan to do? Yelling slogans on the street with a banner?- before police come to you you will be abused by people, old people pick a random brick knock on your head? Or people pushed you to police, they will ask you if you are mentally disordered or something? If you insist on doing so.... there is a "Anti-secession Law" waiting for you. So you decide to show your thoughts on the web, you keep posting and posting, nomatter how many your post deleted, then someday will be someone call you to "have a cup of tea". But BEFORE all official things happens, you will be choking in the spit of millions. Believe me you won't like to do this, worse than being killed. I know there are always some chinese people protesting in foreign lands holding a banner of political persecution or even dressed in bloodstain shirts at trainstations, trying to swindle some money from people's sympathy. It's really fking disgusting that some people do fking anything for money, didn't even have the grace to look embarrassed for insulting the land that breeded him.
And that sounds like a reasonable reaction to someone with a reasonable political position?
On July 25 2022 18:27 Simberto wrote: Also, i don't understand why you bring your personal judgement of the people from Taiwan in here, that is 0 percent relevant. Judging people by nationality is always problematic. And using sentences like "their boys are sissy" tends to reflect negatively only onto you.
yes I am not a serious man, do not judge me I think I not a very typical Chinese.
I don't know, i don't judge people based on their nationality.
oops,here's jumps out another misunderstanding. I didn't mean "do not judge me (by my nationality)", I mean "do not judge me (by my words) . Though I don't think we Chinese are right on everything, I am still very pround of my nationality.
If you were to openly voice that sentiment that you think Taiwan is a different country from the PRC, and the best solution would be to just sign a treaty where Taiwan renounces any claims on PRC territory and the PRC renounces any claims on Taiwan territory, in China and on the chinese internet, how well do you think that would go for you? Would this have negative impacts on your life, safety and future career?
if you want to murder me you can speak it out directly lol
So why are you trying to convince us that China is the best and nothing shady is going on when you believe you can be killed for voicing the wrong opinion ?
haha it was a cold joke. It's actually not practical. Such action will be like committing a social suicide. what should you plan to do? Yelling slogans on the street with a banner?- before police come to you you will be abused by people, old people pick a random brick knock on your head? Or people pushed you to police, they will ask you if you are mentally disordered or something? If you insist on doing so.... there is a "Anti-secession Law" waiting for you. So you decide to show your thoughts on the web, you keep posting and posting, nomatter how many your post deleted, then someday will be someone call you to "have a cup of tea". But BEFORE all official things happens, you will be choking in the spit of millions. Believe me you won't like to do this, worse than being killed. I know there are always some chinese people protesting in foreign lands holding a banner of political persecution or even dressed in bloodstain shirts at trainstations, trying to swindle some money from people's sympathy. It's really fking disgusting that some people do fking anything for money, didn't even have the grace to look embarrassed for insulting the land that breeded him.
"If you stray from the one and only acceptable opinion you will be an outcast because people in China are intolerant jerks. Why would you want to leave and/or protest this? How disgusting of you."
Seriously difficult not to consider this pure trolling.
Sometimes I don't understand what's the exact meaning of trolling, Have I thrown out something irrational ? No. I shared my personal oppions and and I don't understand why they are mad about it.
On July 25 2022 18:27 Simberto wrote: Also, i don't understand why you bring your personal judgement of the people from Taiwan in here, that is 0 percent relevant. Judging people by nationality is always problematic. And using sentences like "their boys are sissy" tends to reflect negatively only onto you.
yes I am not a serious man, do not judge me I think I not a very typical Chinese.
I don't know, i don't judge people based on their nationality.
oops,here's jumps out another misunderstanding. I didn't mean "do not judge me (by my nationality)", I mean "do not judge me (by my words) . Though I don't think we Chinese are right on everything, I am still very pround of my nationality.
If you were to openly voice that sentiment that you think Taiwan is a different country from the PRC, and the best solution would be to just sign a treaty where Taiwan renounces any claims on PRC territory and the PRC renounces any claims on Taiwan territory, in China and on the chinese internet, how well do you think that would go for you? Would this have negative impacts on your life, safety and future career?
if you want to murder me you can speak it out directly lol
So why are you trying to convince us that China is the best and nothing shady is going on when you believe you can be killed for voicing the wrong opinion ?
haha it was a cold joke. It's actually not practical. Such action will be like committing a social suicide. what should you plan to do? Yelling slogans on the street with a banner?- before police come to you you will be abused by people, old people pick a random brick knock on your head? Or people pushed you to police, they will ask you if you are mentally disordered or something? If you insist on doing so.... there is a "Anti-secession Law" waiting for you. So you decide to show your thoughts on the web, you keep posting and posting, nomatter how many your post deleted, then someday will be someone call you to "have a cup of tea". But BEFORE all official things happens, you will be choking in the spit of millions. Believe me you won't like to do this, worse than being killed. I know there are always some chinese people protesting in foreign lands holding a banner of political persecution or even dressed in bloodstain shirts at trainstations, trying to swindle some money from people's sympathy. It's really fking disgusting that some people do fking anything for money, didn't even have the grace to look embarrassed for insulting the land that breeded him.
You say it's a joke, then you say you'll be killed by the population before the state kills you. Okay. You've more or less affirmed everything negative we've said about china in this single post, thanks.
I wonder where this will go. If we'll get a global crash on top of that China is in for some rough times ahead of them. There's also news of China having trouble managing its international debt.
Yes, not surprising that continuing with the insane covid zero strategy almost 3 years on and even now locking down massive cities for months on end is having huge economic impact.Seems like a very dangerous time, China could do something unpredictable.
On July 31 2022 00:16 iPlaY.NettleS wrote: Yes, not surprising that continuing with the insane covid zero strategy almost 3 years on and even now locking down massive cities for months on end is having huge economic impact. Seems like a very dangerous time, China could do something unpredictable.
Is Pelosi still going to visit Taiwan?
From the latest news, it looks like she will skip Taiwan and visit other Asian countries. At least no mentions of Taiwan from her office:
On July 31 2022 22:14 WestTaiwan wrote: Interesting. For the non-Chinese people discussing in this thread, has anyone been to mainland China before? I'm curious about your experience.
China isn't really a place where I'd like to go. I'd love to do some sightseeing but having your facial recognition in their database and using weechat or some other app for everything is a big no for me. If my own country introduced such measures I'd be forced to move out to a different country I guess.
On July 31 2022 22:14 WestTaiwan wrote: Interesting. For the non-Chinese people discussing in this thread, has anyone been to mainland China before? I'm curious about your experience.
China isn't really a place where I'd like to go. I'd love to do some sightseeing but having your facial recognition in their database and using weechat or some other app for everything is a big no for me. If my own country introduced such measures I'd be forced to move out to a different country I guess.
On July 31 2022 22:14 WestTaiwan wrote: Interesting. For the non-Chinese people discussing in this thread, has anyone been to mainland China before? I'm curious about your experience.
China isn't really a place where I'd like to go. I'd love to do some sightseeing but having your facial recognition in their database and using weechat or some other app for everything is a big no for me. If my own country introduced such measures I'd be forced to move out to a different country I guess.
What countries have you been to before?
Does it really matter? I've been all over Europe and lived for 3 years in Lybia.
On July 31 2022 22:14 WestTaiwan wrote: Interesting. For the non-Chinese people discussing in this thread, has anyone been to mainland China before? I'm curious about your experience.
China isn't really a place where I'd like to go. I'd love to do some sightseeing but having your facial recognition in their database and using weechat or some other app for everything is a big no for me. If my own country introduced such measures I'd be forced to move out to a different country I guess.
What countries have you been to before?
Does it really matter? I've been all over Europe and lived for 3 years in Lybia.
I think this is the part where you get told your opinions on China are irrelevant since you've never lived there, just like the other 0-post accounts did before them. I'd love to be wrong though
On July 31 2022 00:16 iPlaY.NettleS wrote: Is Pelosi still going to visit Taiwan?
This is a very important question. China has set a "red line" and said that they're going to take measures if Pelosi does visit Taiwan. They've also been undergoing military drills and sending tanks and other equipment to provinces facing Taiwan.
On July 31 2022 22:14 WestTaiwan wrote: Interesting. For the non-Chinese people discussing in this thread, has anyone been to mainland China before? I'm curious about your experience.
China isn't really a place where I'd like to go. I'd love to do some sightseeing but having your facial recognition in their database and using weechat or some other app for everything is a big no for me. If my own country introduced such measures I'd be forced to move out to a different country I guess.
What countries have you been to before?
Does it really matter? I've been all over Europe and lived for 3 years in Lybia.
I think this is the part where you get told your opinions on China are irrelevant since you've never lived there, just like the other 0-post accounts did before them. I'd love to be wrong though
Yeah, I would assume so. I guess my experience living behind the Iron Curtain when the wall in Berlin was still standing and literally witnessing countries go from communism to democracy live as it was unfolding doesn't count for anything.
Even without that I think everyone should be able to express their opinions even on stuff they haven't experienced themselves. I have thoughts on many countries I've never been to, not all of them are good thoughts either.
On July 31 2022 00:16 iPlaY.NettleS wrote: Is Pelosi still going to visit Taiwan?
This is a very important question. China has set a "red line" and said that they're going to take measures if Pelosi does visit Taiwan. They've also been undergoing military drills and sending tanks and other equipment to provinces facing Taiwan.
On July 31 2022 22:14 WestTaiwan wrote: Interesting. For the non-Chinese people discussing in this thread, has anyone been to mainland China before? I'm curious about your experience.
China isn't really a place where I'd like to go. I'd love to do some sightseeing but having your facial recognition in their database and using weechat or some other app for everything is a big no for me. If my own country introduced such measures I'd be forced to move out to a different country I guess.
What countries have you been to before?
Does it really matter? I've been all over Europe and lived for 3 years in Lybia.
I think this is the part where you get told your opinions on China are irrelevant since you've never lived there, just like the other 0-post accounts did before them. I'd love to be wrong though
Yeah, I would assume so. I guess my experience living behind the Iron Curtain when the wall in Berlin was still standing and literally witnessing countries go from communism to democracy live as it was unfolding doesn't count for anything.
Even without that I think everyone should be able to express their opinions even on stuff they haven't experienced themselves. I have thoughts on many countries I've never been to, not all of them are good thoughts either.
Weird. Basically no one here has lived in Nazi Germany (I think the amount of people over the age of 78 in this forum is miniscule), and yet people still have an opinion on it. It is almost as if one can get an opinion of other places and times even without being there.
I have been to China (Chengdu, Leshan, Dujiangyan, Beijing): - I have felt safe walking around alone in city center -There are police/party men in uniform/military everywhere (especially on plazas with Mao statues ) -A lot of two language signs (english/mandarin) but hardly anyone speaks english (even when it says so on the sign! lol ) -I guess it can be a nice place to live if You dont care about politics and are ok with having no influence on main decisions of Your country/city etc.
On August 01 2022 18:15 Silvanel wrote: I have been to China (Chengdu, Leshan, Dujiangyan, Beijing): - I have felt safe walking around alone in city center -There are police/party men in uniform/military everywhere (especially on plazas with Mao statues ) -A lot of two language signs (english/mandarin) but hardly anyone speaks english (even when it says so on the sign! lol ) -I guess it can be a nice place to live if You dont care about politics and are ok with having no influence on main decisions of Your country/city etc.
About the crime rate: Pickpockets have all but disappeared in the big cities. There's cameras at every corner, so petty thieves get caught really quickly. Criminals nowadays make money by running scams instead, so at least the streets are safe now.
I have heard however that in smaller towns and villages, thieves exist to steal only from outsiders. They don't steal from villagers, probably because they'd get beaten up bad for it.
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I think I not a very typical Chinese.
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