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NOTE: When providing a source, please provide a very brief summary on what it's about and what purpose it adds to the discussion. The supporting statement should clearly explain why the subject is relevant and needs to be discussed. Please follow this rule especially for tweets.

Your supporting statement should always come BEFORE you provide the source.
pmp10
Profile Joined April 2012
3389 Posts
May 27 2023 17:54 GMT
#8821
And in the meantime the US aid budget to Ukraine is slowly running out.
I guess we will see just how unimportant voter opinions are when the time comes for a renewal.
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14104 Posts
May 27 2023 18:15 GMT
#8822
On May 28 2023 02:54 pmp10 wrote:
And in the meantime the US aid budget to Ukraine is slowly running out.
I guess we will see just how unimportant voter opinions are when the time comes for a renewal.

If you read the article you'll find out that its just the annouced budget to ukraine that is slowly running out and that their source, a senator, placed it that they have seven months of funds left. By that time the budget will have to get wacked at and oh boy if you think someones going to go soft on military aid or that the MIC will just not lobby for some reason you don't know much about how bad it is in America.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
sertas
Profile Joined April 2012
Sweden890 Posts
May 27 2023 19:22 GMT
#8823
It's just big russian cope to think that weapon supply will stop going to ukraine.. they even started getting f16 approved recently aswell, it's stepping up, giving more tools for ukraine to win
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17685 Posts
May 27 2023 19:24 GMT
#8824
There seem to be speculations based on recent interview with Prigozhin. It seems that Wagner lost 95% of its troops (counting both KIA and WIA), which would explain why they went from being deployed to 85km front to only being present at 5km front.
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
May 27 2023 19:27 GMT
#8825
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Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8234 Posts
May 27 2023 19:59 GMT
#8826
On May 28 2023 04:27 JimmiC wrote:
Maybe his troops deployed in Ukraine, but does he not have lots of troops in Africa? I can’t imagine he left all the gold mines they are looting in exchange for genociding dictators enemies were left unguarded.


I have my doubts he's going to relocate them, since their entire income comes from it. So they might as well not be counted on this theatre
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17685 Posts
May 27 2023 22:17 GMT
#8827
I wonder though. PMC Wagner went from 8k troops in April 2022 to 50+k in December 2022 (I assume that's counting the inmates?), reports say they lost 35-40k (that's KIA only, not wounded). Seems like what's left in Africa would be a skeleton crew at most?
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23675 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-05-28 03:52:10
May 28 2023 03:50 GMT
#8828
On May 28 2023 02:54 pmp10 wrote:
And in the meantime the US aid budget to Ukraine is slowly running out.
I guess we will see just how unimportant voter opinions are when the time comes for a renewal.

Democracy is overrated

Honestly though, If Trump won I'd rather the US cut off aid and force a deal than have him figure out he has a faction of likeminded people in Ukraine he could use the war as cover to empower.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
FeatherPlanes
Profile Joined June 2022
45 Posts
May 28 2023 04:03 GMT
#8829
The problem is what sort of deal would Russia even entertain beyond basically asking for everything? And really, what's there to stop Russia from doing the exact same thing in the near future if they get a favourable outcome? Without US aid, there's really no reason for Russia to not continue to ignore cries for a deal and just try and steamroll Ukraine.
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43649 Posts
May 28 2023 04:21 GMT
#8830
GH, don’t back deals with genocidal fascists. It’s a bad look.
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Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14104 Posts
May 28 2023 05:14 GMT
#8831
On May 28 2023 04:24 Manit0u wrote:
There seem to be speculations based on recent interview with Prigozhin. It seems that Wagner lost 95% of its troops (counting both KIA and WIA), which would explain why they went from being deployed to 85km front to only being present at 5km front.

This number is probably pretty wonky as over the 9+ months there was probably a lot of people recruited, trained, and then brought to the front to die. They could have easily gone over 100% and it would make sense. It may depend on if they count the prisoners they used as cannon fodder as actual wagner members or not.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14104 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-05-28 05:23:30
May 28 2023 05:16 GMT
#8832
On May 28 2023 13:21 KwarK wrote:
GH, don’t back deals with genocidal fascists. It’s a bad look.

Give him a chance, he might mean that NATO should go past aid and actually enter the war instead.

Bonus tweet for those that think that the aid is ever going away. The debt deal has a specific carve out that spending limits will not effect defence spending, And this guy below is going to be doing negotiations for that budget.

https://twitter.com/upholdreality/status/1662556104444846082?s=20
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23675 Posts
May 28 2023 06:39 GMT
#8833
On May 28 2023 13:21 KwarK wrote:
GH, don’t back deals with genocidal fascists. It’s a bad look.

In that scenario it's not if there's a deal being made with genocidal fascists, it's which genocidal fascists and on what terms.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
maybenexttime
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Poland5757 Posts
May 28 2023 07:33 GMT
#8834
On May 28 2023 15:39 GreenHorizons wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2023 13:21 KwarK wrote:
GH, don’t back deals with genocidal fascists. It’s a bad look.

In that scenario it's not if there's a deal being made with genocidal fascists, it's which genocidal fascists and on what terms.

What other genocidal fascists are involved in the conflict besides those in the Kremlin?
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22125 Posts
May 28 2023 08:43 GMT
#8835
On May 28 2023 16:33 maybenexttime wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2023 15:39 GreenHorizons wrote:
On May 28 2023 13:21 KwarK wrote:
GH, don’t back deals with genocidal fascists. It’s a bad look.

In that scenario it's not if there's a deal being made with genocidal fascists, it's which genocidal fascists and on what terms.

What other genocidal fascists are involved in the conflict besides those in the Kremlin?
Well he was talking about a future where Trump wins so... I guess Trump. He is certainly a fascist, currently might be a stretch to call him genocidal but I have no doubt he wouldn't blink an eye over a little genocide is it benefited him personally.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
maybenexttime
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Poland5757 Posts
May 28 2023 08:50 GMT
#8836
On May 28 2023 17:43 Gorsameth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2023 16:33 maybenexttime wrote:
On May 28 2023 15:39 GreenHorizons wrote:
On May 28 2023 13:21 KwarK wrote:
GH, don’t back deals with genocidal fascists. It’s a bad look.

In that scenario it's not if there's a deal being made with genocidal fascists, it's which genocidal fascists and on what terms.

What other genocidal fascists are involved in the conflict besides those in the Kremlin?
Well he was talking about a future where Trump wins so... I guess Trump. He is certainly a fascist, currently might be a stretch to call him genocidal but I have no doubt he wouldn't blink an eye over a little genocide is it benefited him personally.

No, he was talking about a faction of likeminded people in Ukraine.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-05-28 19:19:14
May 28 2023 19:16 GMT
#8837
It appears that Ukraine has launched another Storm Shadow strike this time in occupied Yurivka(sp?).

"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8234 Posts
May 30 2023 09:33 GMT
#8838
https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/05/30/7404446/

Huge sets of drone attacks in Moscow. Since no one is claiming responsibility for them, and it seems most of them were shot down, it's difficult to tell what the exact targets or purpose were. Since this isn't officially by Ukraine, causing terror might very well have been the purpose
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany7101 Posts
May 30 2023 10:05 GMT
#8839
I can imagine the headlines when US would pull out:

USA afraid of Russia // US losing war vs Russia

I don't think the general population in the US would like to read those....
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
Sent.
Profile Joined June 2012
Poland9284 Posts
May 30 2023 10:21 GMT
#8840
Not that Ukraine attacking targets in Moscow is unthinkable, but this could be an inside job to make Russians feel threatened and therefore more likely to support the invasion.
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