• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 16:54
CET 22:54
KST 06:54
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview8RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners12
Community News
$21,000 Rongyi Cup Season 3 announced (Jan 22-Feb 7)11Weekly Cups (Dec 29-Jan 4): Protoss rolls, 2v2 returns6[BSL21] Non-Korean Championship - Starts Jan 103SC2 All-Star Invitational: Jan 17-1822Weekly Cups (Dec 22-28): Classic & MaxPax win, Percival surprises3
StarCraft 2
General
Spontaneous hotkey change zerg Chinese SC2 server to reopen; live all-star event in Hangzhou Weekly Cups (Dec 29-Jan 4): Protoss rolls, 2v2 returns SC2 All-Star Invitational: Jan 17-18 Weekly Cups (Dec 22-28): Classic & MaxPax win, Percival surprises
Tourneys
$21,000 Rongyi Cup Season 3 announced (Jan 22-Feb 7) WardiTV Winter Cup WardiTV Mondays SC2 AI Tournament 2026 OSC Season 13 World Championship
Strategy
Simple Questions Simple Answers
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 508 Violent Night Mutation # 507 Well Trained Mutation # 506 Warp Zone Mutation # 505 Rise From Ashes
Brood War
General
I would like to say something about StarCraft Potential ASL qualifier breakthroughs? BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ BW General Discussion StarCraft & BroodWar Campaign Speedrun Quest
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL21] Grand Finals - Sunday 21:00 CET [BSL21] Non-Korean Championship - Starts Jan 10 SLON Grand Finals – Season 2
Strategy
Game Theory for Starcraft Simple Questions, Simple Answers Current Meta [G] How to get started on ladder as a new Z player
Other Games
General Games
Awesome Games Done Quick 2026! Mechabellum Beyond All Reason Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread General RTS Discussion Thread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Trading/Investing Thread
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List TL+ Announced
Blogs
My 2025 Magic: The Gathering…
DARKING
Physical Exercise (HIIT) Bef…
TrAiDoS
Life Update and thoughts.
FuDDx
How do archons sleep?
8882
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 2295 users

Russo-Ukrainian War Thread - Page 442

Forum Index > General Forum
Post a Reply
Prev 1 440 441 442 443 444 910 Next
NOTE: When providing a source, please provide a very brief summary on what it's about and what purpose it adds to the discussion. The supporting statement should clearly explain why the subject is relevant and needs to be discussed. Please follow this rule especially for tweets.

Your supporting statement should always come BEFORE you provide the source.
pmp10
Profile Joined April 2012
3378 Posts
May 27 2023 17:54 GMT
#8821
And in the meantime the US aid budget to Ukraine is slowly running out.
I guess we will see just how unimportant voter opinions are when the time comes for a renewal.
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14073 Posts
May 27 2023 18:15 GMT
#8822
On May 28 2023 02:54 pmp10 wrote:
And in the meantime the US aid budget to Ukraine is slowly running out.
I guess we will see just how unimportant voter opinions are when the time comes for a renewal.

If you read the article you'll find out that its just the annouced budget to ukraine that is slowly running out and that their source, a senator, placed it that they have seven months of funds left. By that time the budget will have to get wacked at and oh boy if you think someones going to go soft on military aid or that the MIC will just not lobby for some reason you don't know much about how bad it is in America.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
sertas
Profile Joined April 2012
Sweden889 Posts
May 27 2023 19:22 GMT
#8823
It's just big russian cope to think that weapon supply will stop going to ukraine.. they even started getting f16 approved recently aswell, it's stepping up, giving more tools for ukraine to win
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17588 Posts
May 27 2023 19:24 GMT
#8824
There seem to be speculations based on recent interview with Prigozhin. It seems that Wagner lost 95% of its troops (counting both KIA and WIA), which would explain why they went from being deployed to 85km front to only being present at 5km front.
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
May 27 2023 19:27 GMT
#8825
--- Nuked ---
Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8230 Posts
May 27 2023 19:59 GMT
#8826
On May 28 2023 04:27 JimmiC wrote:
Maybe his troops deployed in Ukraine, but does he not have lots of troops in Africa? I can’t imagine he left all the gold mines they are looting in exchange for genociding dictators enemies were left unguarded.


I have my doubts he's going to relocate them, since their entire income comes from it. So they might as well not be counted on this theatre
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17588 Posts
May 27 2023 22:17 GMT
#8827
I wonder though. PMC Wagner went from 8k troops in April 2022 to 50+k in December 2022 (I assume that's counting the inmates?), reports say they lost 35-40k (that's KIA only, not wounded). Seems like what's left in Africa would be a skeleton crew at most?
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23563 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-05-28 03:52:10
May 28 2023 03:50 GMT
#8828
On May 28 2023 02:54 pmp10 wrote:
And in the meantime the US aid budget to Ukraine is slowly running out.
I guess we will see just how unimportant voter opinions are when the time comes for a renewal.

Democracy is overrated

Honestly though, If Trump won I'd rather the US cut off aid and force a deal than have him figure out he has a faction of likeminded people in Ukraine he could use the war as cover to empower.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
FeatherPlanes
Profile Joined June 2022
45 Posts
May 28 2023 04:03 GMT
#8829
The problem is what sort of deal would Russia even entertain beyond basically asking for everything? And really, what's there to stop Russia from doing the exact same thing in the near future if they get a favourable outcome? Without US aid, there's really no reason for Russia to not continue to ignore cries for a deal and just try and steamroll Ukraine.
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43431 Posts
May 28 2023 04:21 GMT
#8830
GH, don’t back deals with genocidal fascists. It’s a bad look.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14073 Posts
May 28 2023 05:14 GMT
#8831
On May 28 2023 04:24 Manit0u wrote:
There seem to be speculations based on recent interview with Prigozhin. It seems that Wagner lost 95% of its troops (counting both KIA and WIA), which would explain why they went from being deployed to 85km front to only being present at 5km front.

This number is probably pretty wonky as over the 9+ months there was probably a lot of people recruited, trained, and then brought to the front to die. They could have easily gone over 100% and it would make sense. It may depend on if they count the prisoners they used as cannon fodder as actual wagner members or not.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14073 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-05-28 05:23:30
May 28 2023 05:16 GMT
#8832
On May 28 2023 13:21 KwarK wrote:
GH, don’t back deals with genocidal fascists. It’s a bad look.

Give him a chance, he might mean that NATO should go past aid and actually enter the war instead.

Bonus tweet for those that think that the aid is ever going away. The debt deal has a specific carve out that spending limits will not effect defence spending, And this guy below is going to be doing negotiations for that budget.

https://twitter.com/upholdreality/status/1662556104444846082?s=20
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23563 Posts
May 28 2023 06:39 GMT
#8833
On May 28 2023 13:21 KwarK wrote:
GH, don’t back deals with genocidal fascists. It’s a bad look.

In that scenario it's not if there's a deal being made with genocidal fascists, it's which genocidal fascists and on what terms.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
maybenexttime
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Poland5736 Posts
May 28 2023 07:33 GMT
#8834
On May 28 2023 15:39 GreenHorizons wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2023 13:21 KwarK wrote:
GH, don’t back deals with genocidal fascists. It’s a bad look.

In that scenario it's not if there's a deal being made with genocidal fascists, it's which genocidal fascists and on what terms.

What other genocidal fascists are involved in the conflict besides those in the Kremlin?
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22036 Posts
May 28 2023 08:43 GMT
#8835
On May 28 2023 16:33 maybenexttime wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2023 15:39 GreenHorizons wrote:
On May 28 2023 13:21 KwarK wrote:
GH, don’t back deals with genocidal fascists. It’s a bad look.

In that scenario it's not if there's a deal being made with genocidal fascists, it's which genocidal fascists and on what terms.

What other genocidal fascists are involved in the conflict besides those in the Kremlin?
Well he was talking about a future where Trump wins so... I guess Trump. He is certainly a fascist, currently might be a stretch to call him genocidal but I have no doubt he wouldn't blink an eye over a little genocide is it benefited him personally.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
maybenexttime
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Poland5736 Posts
May 28 2023 08:50 GMT
#8836
On May 28 2023 17:43 Gorsameth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2023 16:33 maybenexttime wrote:
On May 28 2023 15:39 GreenHorizons wrote:
On May 28 2023 13:21 KwarK wrote:
GH, don’t back deals with genocidal fascists. It’s a bad look.

In that scenario it's not if there's a deal being made with genocidal fascists, it's which genocidal fascists and on what terms.

What other genocidal fascists are involved in the conflict besides those in the Kremlin?
Well he was talking about a future where Trump wins so... I guess Trump. He is certainly a fascist, currently might be a stretch to call him genocidal but I have no doubt he wouldn't blink an eye over a little genocide is it benefited him personally.

No, he was talking about a faction of likeminded people in Ukraine.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-05-28 19:19:14
May 28 2023 19:16 GMT
#8837
It appears that Ukraine has launched another Storm Shadow strike this time in occupied Yurivka(sp?).

"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8230 Posts
May 30 2023 09:33 GMT
#8838
https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/05/30/7404446/

Huge sets of drone attacks in Moscow. Since no one is claiming responsibility for them, and it seems most of them were shot down, it's difficult to tell what the exact targets or purpose were. Since this isn't officially by Ukraine, causing terror might very well have been the purpose
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany7023 Posts
May 30 2023 10:05 GMT
#8839
I can imagine the headlines when US would pull out:

USA afraid of Russia // US losing war vs Russia

I don't think the general population in the US would like to read those....
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
Sent.
Profile Joined June 2012
Poland9267 Posts
May 30 2023 10:21 GMT
#8840
Not that Ukraine attacking targets in Moscow is unthinkable, but this could be an inside job to make Russians feel threatened and therefore more likely to support the invasion.
You're now breathing manually
Prev 1 440 441 442 443 444 910 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
BSL 21
20:00
Non-Korean Championship
ZZZero.O265
LiquipediaDiscussion
IPSL
20:00
Ro4 Set 2
DragOn vs Sziky
Airneanach66
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
White-Ra 273
JuggernautJason129
Nathanias 79
Vindicta 28
StarCraft: Brood War
ZZZero.O 265
Dota 2
420jenkins304
LuMiX0
Counter-Strike
fl0m7224
Heroes of the Storm
Liquid`Hasu574
Other Games
FrodaN7731
Grubby4189
Liquid`RaSZi3115
B2W.Neo898
Beastyqt542
mouzStarbuck314
KnowMe170
ArmadaUGS166
ToD140
tarik_tv82
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick5717
EGCTV865
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 16 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• HeavenSC 43
• IndyKCrew
• sooper7s
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• Migwel
• intothetv
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Kozan
StarCraft: Brood War
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• Noizen41
League of Legends
• Nemesis4392
• Doublelift3930
Other Games
• imaqtpie2316
• Shiphtur299
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
11h 6m
Wardi Open
16h 6m
Monday Night Weeklies
19h 6m
WardiTV Invitational
1d 14h
WardiTV Invitational
2 days
The PondCast
3 days
OSC
3 days
OSC
4 days
All Star Teams
5 days
INnoVation vs soO
sOs vs Scarlett
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
5 days
[ Show More ]
All Star Teams
6 days
MMA vs DongRaeGu
Rogue vs Oliveira
Sparkling Tuna Cup
6 days
OSC
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-01-10
Big Gabe Cup #3
META Madness #9

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Proleague 2026-01-11
OSC Championship Season 13
Underdog Cup #3
NA Kuram Kup
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025

Upcoming

CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
Escore Tournament S1: W4
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
HSC XXVIII
Rongyi Cup S3
Thunderfire SC2 All-star 2025
Nations Cup 2026
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League Season 23
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.