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On November 05 2020 09:50 Belisarius wrote:
With the amount of votes that Trump's personal brand has carried, surely one of his children remains likely?
Biden might be looking much more comfortable than last night, but it seems clear the GOP is chained to alternative facts politics for the foreseeable future.
Don Jr, is, to put it politely, a moron. He was found not guilty of collusion by Mueller because he was judged to be too stupid to understand his own actions. Eric makes Don Jr look like a member of mensa.
They're basically Donald without the charisma or conman talents.
Ivanka has a bit too much baggage. Female, has portrayed herself as a moderate to get nice media coverage, and a jewish husband.
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On November 05 2020 09:47 Toadesstern wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2020 09:39 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Fox News is slowly backing away from Trump. If they announce GA tonight it would either be during Hannity, or Ingrhams show.
We might actually get a real time reaction from Trump if he phones in to talk to either of them. related to this: Show nested quote +Gabriel Sherman: A civil war is raging between Fox News and Donald Trump over Fox's controversial decision to be the first media outlet to call Arizona for Joe Biden just before 11:30 p.m. last night. According to a source, Trump phoned Fox owner Rupert Murdoch to scream about the call and demand a retraction. Murdoch refused, and the call stood. Trump and Murdoch have been at odds for months over election coverage. In September, I reported that Trump complained to Murdoch about Fox's polling. Murdoch has been telling associates for months that Trump would lose the election.
There is this show about fox which has been on tv here "the loudest voice". Its very good,definitely worth watching.
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I thought Trump needed like a 15% advantage to keep his Arizona chances alive? Only a 3% lead sounds pretty poor.
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On November 05 2020 09:46 mikedebo wrote:
Ignorant question: When we look to the future of the Democrats, the potential next-in-lines are relatively clear (if dismal) to me. They've been mentioned a lot in this thread already.
If you're looking to potential next presidential candidates in 2024 for the Republicans, is there anyone who really sticks out right now? Who would be the "new blood" equivalents to like, AOC et al? Aside from Kanye 2024 of course.
None of them. Then again they are all part of the old guard. Both parties need a dire reform. I forgot the Republican's name but I agree with him. There needs to be a third option.
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I think it's still tea leaves until we get the full 9PM dump. Maricopa is what will make or break Trump's chances in AZ.
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On November 05 2020 09:58 PhoenixVoid wrote:
I thought Trump needed like a 15% advantage to keep his Arizona chances alive? Only a 3% lead sounds pretty poor.
That's purely assuming the rest of the Maricopa vote is gonna be the +21 for Trump that the voter reg implies but these numbers don't show the full picture. Biden is winning indies in Arizona, and the registered Rs in arizona are more moderate, old school like McCain/Romney
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On November 05 2020 09:48 PhoenixVoid wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2020 09:46 mikedebo wrote:
Ignorant question: When we look to the future of the Democrats, the potential next-in-lines are relatively clear (if dismal) to me. They've been mentioned a lot in this thread already.
If you're looking to potential next presidential candidates in 2024 for the Republicans, is there anyone who really sticks out right now? Who would be the "new blood" equivalents to like, AOC et al? Aside from Kanye 2024 of course. I've seen Cruz, Cotton, Crenshaw, Gaetz, Liz Cheney and Haley pop up quite frequently as the new leadership for Republicans in a post-Trump world.
Cruz WOULD NEVER GET THE VOTE.
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If Trump loses, and somehow manages to avoid legal charges when he loses presidential immunity, the 2024 candidate could just be Trump again. Powered by 4 years of twitter rage and OANN punditry.
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On November 05 2020 09:53 Belisarius wrote:
I assume the state legislatures themselves, given the gerrymandering context.
Ya those have dems broken any trifectias to make more fair maps or are we looking at another 10 years with heavy unfair maps
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On November 05 2020 09:59 TheTenthDoc wrote:
I think it's still tea leaves until we get the full 9PM dump. Maricopa is what will make or break Trump's chances in AZ.
All I can say is that dump is a funny word to have used for this election lol
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On November 05 2020 09:22 PhoenixVoid wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2020 09:19 Zambrah wrote:
does anyone wonder if Trump regrets becoming president? Only if he's in prison and facing hundreds of millions to repay to Deutsche Bank and other creditors.
I wonder if he would have as many lawsuits and shit waiting for him if he didn't run. Probably not as bad but considering how long he's been in the spotlight. His family is going to be dealing with a whole lot of shit for a very very long time.
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On November 05 2020 10:01 FlaShFTW wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2020 09:59 TheTenthDoc wrote:
I think it's still tea leaves until we get the full 9PM dump. Maricopa is what will make or break Trump's chances in AZ. All I can say is that dump is a funny word to have used for this election lol
I've never been so eager for two dumps in Arizona. Not even after eating at a Vegas Denny's. Wait that's Nevada. SHIT.
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On November 05 2020 10:03 TheTenthDoc wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2020 10:01 FlaShFTW wrote:On November 05 2020 09:59 TheTenthDoc wrote:
I think it's still tea leaves until we get the full 9PM dump. Maricopa is what will make or break Trump's chances in AZ. All I can say is that dump is a funny word to have used for this election lol I've never been so eager for two dumps in Arizona. Not even after eating at a Vegas Denny's. Wait that's Nevada. SHIT.
After a Philly cheesesteak, I also need that dump
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I ate Taco Bell to spite Texas
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NYT updated PA. Trump ahead by only 200k with 88% counted
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PA UPDATE: Another Allagheny batch, another push for Biden, who now only trails by 200k exactly.
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On November 05 2020 10:07 Toadesstern wrote:
NYT updated PA. Trump ahead by only 200k with 88% counted
who the fuck is this imposter? VOTE UPDATES IS MY JOB
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