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GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States24211 Posts
September 30 2020 03:35 GMT
#301
On September 30 2020 12:31 Shingi11 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 30 2020 12:27 m4ini wrote:
On September 30 2020 12:25 NewSunshine wrote:
On September 30 2020 12:15 m4ini wrote:
Okay.

I know the rules and stuff, but i can't really give any context, or my opinion on this. Not without breaking rules. I've mentioned this to Danglars specifically in the politics thread, that Trump is an enabler (remember, you calling people hysteric because they got pissed off about trump priming his base for exactly this kind of bullshit?). I don't think you need any more proof.


But he's just joking, you see. The more reasonable Republicans don't take Trump seriously, so don't pay attention to the fanatics who actually commit the violence and kill people over their politics. They're not real.


Funny.

Or so would i say if this wasn't the actual argument.


Dont you know trump never means what he says, its just talk between the boys.

Also have you heard about the face eating leopards party, great bunch.


Joe Exotic/Carole Baskin 2024?
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
CorsairHero
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada9491 Posts
September 30 2020 03:36 GMT
#302
On September 30 2020 12:06 Introvert wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 30 2020 12:03 Mohdoo wrote:
Curious how people feel about this on TL:

Poll: Should the microphone of who isn't the designated speaker be muted?

Yes (35)
 
78%

No (10)
 
22%

45 total votes

Your vote: Should the microphone of who isn't the designated speaker be muted?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No





Absolutely not, let us see these men for who they are.

Why not law and order for a debate that has rules?
© Current year.
Lmui
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada6223 Posts
September 30 2020 03:36 GMT
#303
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From 538's coverage there was this tracker which aggregated sentiment about both candidates. General sentiment about both candidates dropped off sharply aft the beginning of the debate, and I guess Biden had a couple more positive bumps than Trump, but it was as much a condemnation of the debate format and shitshow than the candidatest themselves.

As far as my opinion on the debate itself, Biden isn't as sharp as he was, but he's good enough. I think it solidifies the opinions of leaning Bidens that he's not going to keel over in the first months of office. I have no clue if Trumps ranting plays well with his base, but I guess that kind of incivility resonates. What we saw in any of the previous debates this year as far as chaos goes pretty much doesn't compare to this.
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15743 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-09-30 03:41:19
September 30 2020 03:40 GMT
#304
FYI as a Portland resident


NewSunshine
Profile Joined July 2011
United States5938 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-09-30 03:45:21
September 30 2020 03:43 GMT
#305
On September 30 2020 12:36 CorsairHero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 30 2020 12:06 Introvert wrote:
On September 30 2020 12:03 Mohdoo wrote:
Curious how people feel about this on TL:

Poll: Should the microphone of who isn't the designated speaker be muted?

Yes (35)
 
78%

No (10)
 
22%

45 total votes

Your vote: Should the microphone of who isn't the designated speaker be muted?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No





Absolutely not, let us see these men for who they are.

Why not law and order for a debate that has rules?

Wondering the same thing. Why can't a presidential debate be focused on the content of ideas and ability to express oneself, like a normal debate, instead of focusing on which one can shout everyone down the most? Sounds like the best way to see them for who they are in my book. Being an obnoxious asshole who doesn't let other people speak does reveal something about a man, but it's probably something best kept a secret.
"If you find yourself feeling lost, take pride in the accuracy of your feelings." - Night Vale
NrG.Bamboo
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States2756 Posts
September 30 2020 03:48 GMT
#306
On September 30 2020 12:43 NewSunshine wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 30 2020 12:36 CorsairHero wrote:
On September 30 2020 12:06 Introvert wrote:
On September 30 2020 12:03 Mohdoo wrote:
Curious how people feel about this on TL:

Poll: Should the microphone of who isn't the designated speaker be muted?

Yes (35)
 
78%

No (10)
 
22%

45 total votes

Your vote: Should the microphone of who isn't the designated speaker be muted?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No





Absolutely not, let us see these men for who they are.

Why not law and order for a debate that has rules?

Being an obnoxious asshole who doesn't let other people speak does reveal something about a man, but it's probably something best kept a secret.

Exactly, which is why his choice to act in such a manner revealed more about character than him pretending to be civil would. It's his right to make a fool of himself, let them say what they want.
I need to protect all your life you can enjoy the vibrant life of your battery
Starlightsun
Profile Blog Joined June 2016
United States1405 Posts
September 30 2020 03:54 GMT
#307
On September 30 2020 12:48 NrG.Bamboo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 30 2020 12:43 NewSunshine wrote:
On September 30 2020 12:36 CorsairHero wrote:
On September 30 2020 12:06 Introvert wrote:
On September 30 2020 12:03 Mohdoo wrote:
Curious how people feel about this on TL:

Poll: Should the microphone of who isn't the designated speaker be muted?

Yes (35)
 
78%

No (10)
 
22%

45 total votes

Your vote: Should the microphone of who isn't the designated speaker be muted?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No





Absolutely not, let us see these men for who they are.

Why not law and order for a debate that has rules?

Being an obnoxious asshole who doesn't let other people speak does reveal something about a man, but it's probably something best kept a secret.

Exactly, which is why his choice to act in such a manner revealed more about character than him pretending to be civil would. It's his right to make a fool of himself, let them say what they want.


That's been on prominent display for four years though... nothing to "reveal" there. I was very depressed at how fumbling Biden seemed, it was really his time to reveal something. I wish we had someone young and sharp rather than this appeal to going back to pre-Trump business as usual. But sadly this is the choice we get because Trump has to go.
NewSunshine
Profile Joined July 2011
United States5938 Posts
September 30 2020 03:55 GMT
#308
It's his right to make an ass of himself, but the moderator of a debate should have the power to actually moderate the conversation in turn so the other person can participate in the debate. If there is going to be any value in the debates, there needs to be a mechanism for someone to get a word in when it's their turn to respond to a question or point. Period.
"If you find yourself feeling lost, take pride in the accuracy of your feelings." - Night Vale
Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-09-30 03:56:25
September 30 2020 03:55 GMT
#309
On September 30 2020 12:06 Introvert wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 30 2020 12:03 Mohdoo wrote:
Curious how people feel about this on TL:

Poll: Should the microphone of who isn't the designated speaker be muted?

Yes (35)
 
78%

No (10)
 
22%

45 total votes

Your vote: Should the microphone of who isn't the designated speaker be muted?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No





Absolutely not, let us see these men for who they are.

Part of me thinks each side should have a button which mutes opposition for up to 20 seconds, with 3 charges.

Would be hilarious, and strategic use of the mute button to either interrupt the opponent while they're making a point, or shutting them up to get your point across could be a fun change.
Porouscloud - NA LoL
Fleetfeet
Profile Blog Joined May 2014
Canada2803 Posts
September 30 2020 03:59 GMT
#310
We're very far from a point where the entertainment value of the debates should be a primary concern.
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
September 30 2020 04:18 GMT
#311
--- Nuked ---
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32754 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-09-30 05:34:16
September 30 2020 04:29 GMT
#312
The most immediate polling on the debate results suggest Biden ended up the winner. Comparing Trump's debates against Hillary, he didn't do that much better against Biden. Polling showed that Trump was expected to win, so Biden must have really outperformed expectations. Apparently Trump's rhetoric and bluster didn't play so well outside of his baseline, people are mostly blaming him for the lack of decorum and I guess Biden's favourability advantage and appeals to the viewers paid off even with a dull showing.

CBS
+ Show Spoiler +
Biden 48% (+7) - Trump 41% - 10% tie

Tonight Debate made you think...

Biden:
Better of him 38% (+6)
Worse of him 32%

Trump:
Better of him 24% (-18)
Worse of him 42%


CNN
+ Show Spoiler +
Biden 60% (+32) - Trump 28% (Hillary did 62-27 on the first debate)

Who was more truthful in his answers? (Viewers split 36% Dem, 35% ind, 25% GOP)

Biden 65% (+36)
Trump 29%

"Did the debate make you more likely to vote for"

Biden 32%
Trump 11%
Neither 57%

Who had a better plan for solving the country's problems?

Biden 63% (+33)
Trump 30%


Data Progress: Biden 51% (+11) - Trump 39%

The poll that best represents how we all feel after that travesty
+ Show Spoiler +
How did the Debate make you feel?

Annoyed 69%
Entertained 31%
Pessimistic 19%
Informed 17%




Looooool. This was actually a better than expected day for Biden maybe.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10046 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-09-30 04:41:29
September 30 2020 04:41 GMT
#313
clown fiesta, they were both terrible

truly embarrassing to watch
ab = tl(i) + tl(pc), the grand answer to every tl.net debate
NrG.Bamboo
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States2756 Posts
September 30 2020 04:47 GMT
#314
How did the Debate make you feel?

Annoyed 69%
Entertained 31%
Pessimistic 19%
Informed 17%

+ Show Spoiler +
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-09-30 05:04:55
September 30 2020 05:04 GMT
#315
On September 30 2020 13:18 JimmiC wrote:
Trump touting law and order while breaking every rule, and just after the tax info was hilarious. Biden was right albeit cheesy to say only with Justice.

Trump had the memorable bad moments, Biden had the memorable lines and better close. If drone is right and this was for the 8% I cant imagine what Trump would have done to impress them.

He did lock down the far right white supremacist vote with the shout out though.


Which is barely anybody. This past weekend in Portland, the proud boys were apparently going to show up with “10K” strong and terrorize Portland. Only 200 or so showed up, from across the country mind you, multiple of them got arrested, and/or fined. The counter protests were in the thousands. Their little “attack” on Portland literally fizzled immediately.
Life?
Dante08
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Singapore4179 Posts
September 30 2020 05:46 GMT
#316
Would be interesting to see some level headed thoughts after people go to sleep and have the chance to analyze this debate again. I don't know what to think!
evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8916 Posts
September 30 2020 05:52 GMT
#317
i just watched some "highlights" of the debate and i was honestly laughing for a good minute because the whole thing was a joke. then i realised it wasnt funny at all, its just incredibly sad and pathetic that the "leader of the free world" has become a circus. america needs to take a good long look at themselves for being unable to produce a better candidate and a better president. what an absolute farce
Zambrah
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States7393 Posts
September 30 2020 05:57 GMT
#318
On September 30 2020 14:52 evilfatsh1t wrote:
i just watched some "highlights" of the debate and i was honestly laughing for a good minute because the whole thing was a joke. then i realised it wasnt funny at all, its just incredibly sad and pathetic that the "leader of the free world" has become a circus. america needs to take a good long look at themselves for being unable to produce a better candidate and a better president. what an absolute farce


America and introspection have never mixed well
Incremental change is the Democrat version of Trickle Down economics.
Doublemint
Profile Joined July 2011
Austria8760 Posts
September 30 2020 06:12 GMT
#319
On September 30 2020 14:52 evilfatsh1t wrote:
i just watched some "highlights" of the debate and i was honestly laughing for a good minute because the whole thing was a joke. then i realised it wasnt funny at all, its just incredibly sad and pathetic that the "leader of the free world" has become a circus. america needs to take a good long look at themselves for being unable to produce a better candidate and a better president. what an absolute farce


Yeah the (cultural) damage accrued by that crazy Trump ride are vast. As with all good things, you will mainly miss them when they are gone. Conversely you are ok with all that and saying "WORTH IT".

Well, let's keep your fingers crossed Nov. 3rd will show a clear path forward.
Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before the fall.
iPlaY.NettleS
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Australia4435 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-09-30 08:10:12
September 30 2020 08:04 GMT
#320
On September 30 2020 12:14 Starlightsun wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 30 2020 12:10 Mohdoo wrote:
On September 30 2020 12:09 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
CNN accurately referred to this debate as a shitshow.


Does anyone disagree that the debate being a shitshow is anything other than a huge win for Biden?


I do. Biden made a very disappointing showing.

Nobody expected Biden to do well.He came off as weak.Imagine him doing deals with world leaders in his current state? not going to happen.

66 Percent of Spanish-Speaking Americans in Telemundo Poll Think Trump Just Won the Debate

https://www.newsweek.com/66-percent-spanish-speaking-americans-telemundo-poll-think-trump-just-won-debate-1535176

Also people claiming Trump enabled white supremacy? He just announced a $500 Billion program to help Black owned businesses and formally labelled the KKK as a terrorist organisation literally last week.Any word from Richard Spencer on whether he's still backing Biden after the debate though? clue me in.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/absolutely-repugnant-biden-s-campaign-forcefully-disavows-an-endorsement-from-neo-nazi-richard-spencer/ar-BB18ktto

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