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On September 30 2020 12:00 Mohdoo wrote:Show nested quote +On September 30 2020 11:57 Emnjay808 wrote:
Are people still convinced these debates are meant to win the "undecided vote"
lets be real lol When Georgia is competitive, a "win" would have been Biden forgetting where he was. All Biden needed to do was not lose miserably.
Ya i agree, trump is the one who needed this debate to turn around the numbers not biden. When you are struggling to hold onto South Carolina and Georgia you need something big. And this night was not it.
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On September 30 2020 12:03 Mohdoo wrote:Curious how people feel about this on TL: Poll: Should the microphone of who isn't the designated speaker be muted?Yes (35) 78% No (10) 22% 45 total votes Your vote: Should the microphone of who isn't the designated speaker be muted? (Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
Absolutely not, let us see these men for who they are.
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If you give trump the excuse that he got unfairly treated by muting his mic, he'll use it. And his minions will gobble it up, probably retaliating later down the line - potentially at a polling station, armed to the teeth, "ensuring legitimacy".
It's a debate. In a debate both mics are on. The problem is simply that you elected a clown with no manners, no decency or culture, so the real solution is to simply not have a debate, since apparently his behaviour doesn't set off enough alarms for many americans.
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On September 30 2020 12:06 m4ini wrote:
If you give trump the excuse that he got unfairly treated by muting his mic, he'll use it. And his minions will gobble it up, probably retaliating later down the line - potentially at a polling station, armed to the teeth, "ensuring legitimacy".
It's a debate. In a debate both mics are on. The problem is simply that you elected a clown with no manners, no decency or culture, so the real solution is to simply not have a debate, since apparently his behaviour doesn't set off enough alarms for many americans.
That's a lot of Americans when they argue. Get louder than the other person to "break their will". trump deciding to drown out what Biden was saying so that his base and those undecideds didn't get a clear answer was the goal.
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CNN accurately referred to this debate as a shitshow.
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On September 30 2020 12:09 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
CNN accurately referred to this debate as a shitshow.
Does anyone disagree that the debate being a shitshow is anything other than a huge win for Biden?
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On September 30 2020 12:08 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 30 2020 12:06 m4ini wrote:
If you give trump the excuse that he got unfairly treated by muting his mic, he'll use it. And his minions will gobble it up, probably retaliating later down the line - potentially at a polling station, armed to the teeth, "ensuring legitimacy".
It's a debate. In a debate both mics are on. The problem is simply that you elected a clown with no manners, no decency or culture, so the real solution is to simply not have a debate, since apparently his behaviour doesn't set off enough alarms for many americans. That's a lot of Americans when they argue. Get louder than the other person to "break their will". trump deciding to drown out what Biden was saying so that his base and those undecideds didn't get a clear answer was the goal.
While i certainly don't come out and say that often, i do think there's a lot of civilised people left in the USA. It doesn't even matter what was discussed in the first place.
Any normal person should take a long look at this "debate" and behavioural clues, and then ask himself if this is a person you want to vote for. Trump would be too slimy for a shoddy 80s used car salesman, i mean..
I just refuse to believe that the majority of a country, any country, looks at this and actually thinks that yes, that is america, that's how we need to portray us to the world.
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I was very pleased with today's clown show. It's exactly what I tuned in to see, and both candidates basically handled it exactly as you would expect.
In terms of polling, I expect it to be largely a wash. There's no clear winner and plenty of losers here, and overall that will probably reflect as a big fat nothing in the polls.
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On September 30 2020 12:10 Mohdoo wrote:Show nested quote +On September 30 2020 12:09 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
CNN accurately referred to this debate as a shitshow. Does anyone disagree that the debate being a shitshow is anything other than a huge win for Biden?
I do. Biden made a very disappointing showing.
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Epic.
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Okay.
I know the rules and stuff, but i can't really give any context, or my opinion on this. Not without breaking rules. I've mentioned this to Danglars specifically in the politics thread, that Trump is an enabler (remember, you calling people hysteric because they got pissed off about trump priming his base for exactly this kind of bullshit?). I don't think you need any more proof.
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On September 30 2020 12:12 m4ini wrote:Show nested quote +On September 30 2020 12:08 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:On September 30 2020 12:06 m4ini wrote:
If you give trump the excuse that he got unfairly treated by muting his mic, he'll use it. And his minions will gobble it up, probably retaliating later down the line - potentially at a polling station, armed to the teeth, "ensuring legitimacy".
It's a debate. In a debate both mics are on. The problem is simply that you elected a clown with no manners, no decency or culture, so the real solution is to simply not have a debate, since apparently his behaviour doesn't set off enough alarms for many americans. That's a lot of Americans when they argue. Get louder than the other person to "break their will". trump deciding to drown out what Biden was saying so that his base and those undecideds didn't get a clear answer was the goal. While i certainly don't come out and say that often, i do think there's a lot of civilised people left in the USA. It doesn't even matter what was discussed in the first place. Any normal person should take a long look at this "debate" and behavioural clues, and then ask himself if this is a person you want to vote for. Trump would be too slimy for a shoddy 80s used car salesman, i mean.. I just refuse to believe that the majority of a country, any country, looks at this and actually thinks that yes, that is america, that's how we need to portray us to the world.
Americans have the exact same problem with Congress.
Congressional approval ratings have been under 10% for something like a decade, yet most Americans think it's "the other guys" who are the problem and so they just keep supporting their incumbent regardless of the actual situation.
Same exact thing here. Most will agree that this was a disgrace, but they'll just blame it on the other guy and nothing will change.
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On September 30 2020 12:15 Stratos_speAr wrote:Show nested quote +On September 30 2020 12:12 m4ini wrote:On September 30 2020 12:08 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:On September 30 2020 12:06 m4ini wrote:
If you give trump the excuse that he got unfairly treated by muting his mic, he'll use it. And his minions will gobble it up, probably retaliating later down the line - potentially at a polling station, armed to the teeth, "ensuring legitimacy".
It's a debate. In a debate both mics are on. The problem is simply that you elected a clown with no manners, no decency or culture, so the real solution is to simply not have a debate, since apparently his behaviour doesn't set off enough alarms for many americans. That's a lot of Americans when they argue. Get louder than the other person to "break their will". trump deciding to drown out what Biden was saying so that his base and those undecideds didn't get a clear answer was the goal. While i certainly don't come out and say that often, i do think there's a lot of civilised people left in the USA. It doesn't even matter what was discussed in the first place. Any normal person should take a long look at this "debate" and behavioural clues, and then ask himself if this is a person you want to vote for. Trump would be too slimy for a shoddy 80s used car salesman, i mean.. I just refuse to believe that the majority of a country, any country, looks at this and actually thinks that yes, that is america, that's how we need to portray us to the world. Americans have the exact same problem with Congress. Congressional approval ratings have been under 10% for something like a decade, yet most Americans think it's "the other guys" who are the problem and so they just keep supporting their incumbent regardless of the actual situation. Same exact thing here. Most will agree that this was a disgrace, but they'll just blame it on the other guy and nothing will change.
Can't argue with that, i suppose that's the root for many things wrong in the US, and the UK for that matter. Or really, any country that thinks a two party system is where it's at.
As someone who grew up in a country with a few more than two parties, it's just something i'll never understand i think.
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On September 30 2020 12:15 m4ini wrote:Okay. I know the rules and stuff, but i can't really give any context, or my opinion on this. Not without breaking rules. I've mentioned this to Danglars specifically in the politics thread, that Trump is an enabler (remember, you calling people hysteric because they got pissed off about trump priming his base for exactly this kind of bullshit?). I don't think you need any more proof. https://twitter.com/ByMikeBaker/status/1311130735584051201
But he's just joking, you see. The more reasonable Republicans don't take Trump seriously, so don't pay attention to the fanatics who actually commit the violence and kill people over their politics. They're not real.
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On September 30 2020 12:25 NewSunshine wrote:Show nested quote +On September 30 2020 12:15 m4ini wrote:Okay. I know the rules and stuff, but i can't really give any context, or my opinion on this. Not without breaking rules. I've mentioned this to Danglars specifically in the politics thread, that Trump is an enabler (remember, you calling people hysteric because they got pissed off about trump priming his base for exactly this kind of bullshit?). I don't think you need any more proof. https://twitter.com/ByMikeBaker/status/1311130735584051201 But he's just joking, you see. The more reasonable Republicans don't take Trump seriously, so don't pay attention to the fanatics who actually commit the violence and kill people over their politics. They're not real.
Funny.
Or so would i say if this wasn't the actual argument.
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Chris Wallace did as good a job as was possible I think, surprised to see criticism of him.
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On September 30 2020 12:27 m4ini wrote:Show nested quote +On September 30 2020 12:25 NewSunshine wrote:On September 30 2020 12:15 m4ini wrote:Okay. I know the rules and stuff, but i can't really give any context, or my opinion on this. Not without breaking rules. I've mentioned this to Danglars specifically in the politics thread, that Trump is an enabler (remember, you calling people hysteric because they got pissed off about trump priming his base for exactly this kind of bullshit?). I don't think you need any more proof. https://twitter.com/ByMikeBaker/status/1311130735584051201 But he's just joking, you see. The more reasonable Republicans don't take Trump seriously, so don't pay attention to the fanatics who actually commit the violence and kill people over their politics. They're not real. Funny. Or so would i say if this wasn't the actual argument.
Dont you know trump never means what he says, its just talk between the boys.
Also have you heard about the face eating leopards party, great bunch.
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