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DarkPlasmaBall
United States45922 Posts
Not let Trump walk all over him? Not let Trump hijack Biden's responses? Been more stern with Trump? I know that Trump would have gone into his usual pearl-clutching "you're out to get me / you're biased / woe is me" rant if he actually got shut down, but Wallace would have been praised quite highly if he actually had the balls to do something about Trump's absurd interrupting streak. | ||
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Ben...
Canada3485 Posts
This is not behaviour of someone who thinks they can win an election legitimately. | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States45922 Posts
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LegalLord
United States13779 Posts
On September 30 2020 11:52 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: Not let Trump walk all over him? Not let Trump hijack Biden's responses? Been more stern with Trump? I know that Trump would have gone into his usual pearl-clutching "you're out to get me / you're biased / woe is me" rant if he actually got shut down, but Wallace would have been praised quite highly if he actually had the balls to do something about Trump's absurd interrupting streak. Honestly, he did all three of those things. And while it helped, it wasn't really enough to handle a full-on tantrum. | ||
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m4ini
4215 Posts
This is not behaviour of someone who thinks they can win an election legitimately. Does he strike you as the legit guy, having enough integrity to admit defeat? Or more like the guy who'd pay for people to make shit up about a political opponent? I mean.. None of this is surprising. I'm surprised people are surprised or shocked. This isn't a new characteristic of trump. He's always been like that, from day one. | ||
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ZerOCoolSC2
9057 Posts
On September 30 2020 11:53 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: I think the VP debate (10/7) will be more level-headed, fwiw. If they even have it. If I was Harris, I'd just decline and make bullshit excuses to not do it. Let this debate be the last one and run ads until election of trump throwing a tantrum. | ||
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Fleetfeet
Canada2720 Posts
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PhoenixVoid
Canada32747 Posts
I don't think this was the night where Biden convinced the remaining undecided voters, and Trump should probably walk away happy he didn't exactly lose the debate either. If no one's mind is changed, that's still an acceptable result for Biden and a mediocre one for Trump, given that he's slipping heavily in key swing states like PA, MI, WI and even NC, OH and GA lately. Biden was making a lot of appeals to the Midwest and Rust Belt states that Clinton lost from Obama during that debate, and we'll see if it resonated or was lost in Trump's shouting. | ||
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Shingi11
290 Posts
I would say biden came out better though. HE had his ups and downs but he toed a accepted line if unimpressive. I could maybe see someone on the fence going for joe after this. Trump on the other was a mess, all the sound bits are going to be from him and non of them good. Telling armed militia groups they need watch voters is bull. Yes his base wants to hear that but trump does not need to win his base. He needs to win everyone else that is fleeing from him. Also going after bidens son addiction was low even for him. Even some republicans are calling him out on that | ||
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Mohdoo
United States15743 Posts
On September 30 2020 11:52 Ben... wrote: What a fucking shitshow of a debate. Trump's answers at the end are genuinely concerning. Openly telling people to watch the polls and telling the proud boys to stand by. This is not behaviour of someone who thinks they can win an election legitimately. This to me says that Trump's data scientists are telling him he has nothing to lose. He is well on track to lose and anything he can do to make that not happen is a good idea. | ||
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Emnjay808
United States10665 Posts
lets be real lol | ||
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Starlightsun
United States1405 Posts
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vult
United States9400 Posts
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ZerOCoolSC2
9057 Posts
On September 30 2020 11:58 vult wrote: CNN saying Wallace had no control as a moderator. Like... what was he supposed to do?? "Mr. President. Shut the fuck up or I will have your mic confiscated. You have been warned." ? I dunno. | ||
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Shingi11
290 Posts
On September 30 2020 11:54 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote: If they even have it. If I was Harris, I'd just decline and make bullshit excuses to not do it. Let this debate be the last one and run ads until election of trump throwing a tantrum. Harris is 1000X times the debater that pence is though. She is going to tear him a new hole. I see no reason she should not debate. In all honesty i wish she could debate trump too. | ||
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Mohdoo
United States15743 Posts
On September 30 2020 11:57 Emnjay808 wrote: Are people still convinced these debates are meant to win the "undecided vote" lets be real lol When Georgia is competitive, a "win" would have been Biden forgetting where he was. All Biden needed to do was not lose miserably. | ||
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vult
United States9400 Posts
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Amui
Canada10567 Posts
On September 30 2020 12:00 Shingi11 wrote: Harris is 1000X times the debater that pence is though. She is going to tear him a new hole. I see no reason she should not debate. In all honesty i wish she could debate trump too. Part of me wishes there was a cross debate of some sort where VP candidate vs P and vice versa. | ||
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Mohdoo
United States15743 Posts
Poll: Should the microphone of who isn't the designated speaker be muted? Yes (35) No (10) 45 total votes Your vote: Should the microphone of who isn't the designated speaker be muted? | ||
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Fleetfeet
Canada2720 Posts
On September 30 2020 12:00 Shingi11 wrote: Harris is 1000X times the debater that pence is though. She is going to tear him a new hole. I see no reason she should not debate. In all honesty i wish she could debate trump too. I honestly don't think there's any debating Trump unless you have an above-average intelligence audience (not intended as a shot at the US) and come armed with a binder of data set to counter the bullshit he spouts (which is where your above average intelligence audience comes in, capable of understanding and appreciating the data). You can't go "This is the truth, and here is the proof" because he'll just say "No no no no all lies didnt happen fake news" and respond with "Crystal clear air, crystal clear water" without any actual substance or reference to any actual plan. | ||
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