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TreKbanned
Sweden50 Posts
its as cheesy as harassing building drones, or taking gas, map exploits or pylons next to facts so they cant addon.. its not like u cant defend vs mannerpylons..u kill the probe and u have workers where the mannerpylons can be built.. Making the game newbie is just what blizzard did with warcraft3  sad love // TreK | ||
Legionnaire
Australia4515 Posts
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PheaRSome
United States584 Posts
and don't use venice's lack of wit as proof of why it should be banned. it's his own stupid fault for chasing the probe and also stopping 3 of his own from mining to kill the one warping in. | ||
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PheaRSome
United States584 Posts
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nEph^Destroyer
Czech Republic105 Posts
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Liquid`Nazgul
22427 Posts
totel newbie | ||
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TreKbanned
Sweden50 Posts
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no1important
557 Posts
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Liquid`Nazgul
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Liquid`Jinro
Sweden33719 Posts
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TreKbanned
Sweden50 Posts
i rarely see mannerpylon...i see it as protoss chance of gaining atleast some kinda control 12 vs 3 and 3 vs 12 ;] but sure..teamliquids tour their rules =( | ||
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BigBalls
United States5354 Posts
dont compare it to stupid shit like worker harassing and rine rush that can be done anywhere. the goal of the game is balance, being a strategy game, imbalances are supposed to be eliminated. spot imbalance is an imbalance and it should be removed. end of discussion. | ||
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nEph^Destroyer
Czech Republic105 Posts
btw u can also ban manner asimilators extractors and so on or dropship micro  it not fair tooT_T | ||
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Ress
Sweden47 Posts
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linternet
United States112 Posts
It's like a "no rush" rule. Don't jump down my throat here just because Nazgul says it's okay. The fact that great players play in the tournament doesn't make it any better. They're eliminating a legitimate tactic that they don't want to deal with. Newbies eliminate rushing, the experts are eliminating manner pylons. | ||
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Dealer
Sweden1368 Posts
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BigBalls
United States5354 Posts
You make the worst comparisons ive ever seen. Lets run down the list. manner assimilators and extractors. Well lets see, is there something preventing you from building gas on any position in LT? No, you can do it everywhere, it is fair. dropship micro. kill yourself. i dont care if it was sarcastic, kill yourself. a no rush rule: is there a certain position that you cant rush? is it ubiquitous? yes it is. you can rush everywhere, anytime you want. MANNER PYLON IS NOT UBIQUITOUS, DONT YOU SEE. the only thing its comparable to is the gay terran push in the valley between 9/6. the fact that its most used in a mirror match makes it worse than this stupid push. dont insult kiddies laziness in stopping a pylon. he is forced because of his position to take 2 probes off working and put them in stop in order to save himself? he is forced to bunch probes and get 1 caught just in order to mine minerals? that is fucking ridiculous. How about we all go play on a server and just install 1.01 there. good idea? lets have a ridiculous zerg larva rate and have everyone go 1 hatch muta. The only two valid points are that if you eliminate manner pylon you should eliminate the gay 9/6 valley push (which none of you came up with) and that it adds variation. the first point is hard to disprove because the gay tank shit is valid, im against that too, but it should be allowed (if i were to make a map, id make that valley water, unlandable and unbuildable) the second point can be argued against easily because its just not fair. a strategy game should not have imbalances, and this is an imbalance. the variation should not include having one side being at a complete disadvantage because of starting position. Its actually worse to have 12v3 pvp than 12v3 pvt. pvt you can take their gas and force something crappy out of them. pvp you have to take probes off minerals to have a chance, or do what i do now and basically manner pylon yourself and have a terrible building infrastructure. the goal of the game is to creat balance and fairness so the player with the best skill wins. something like manner pylon doesnt do that. it detracts from balance and should not be present. why am i the only one who feels so strongly about manner pylon | ||
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TreKbanned
Sweden50 Posts
nice "bigballs" whoever u are dont drag the argument down to ur level just cause ur stupid. My question to u is how u suppose every spot to be equal? its pretty known that terran@6 is ALOT disadvantaged compared to terran@12 and @2 should u BAN 6 pos then? no one has ever succeeded in making a mannerpylon vs me since I make my workers mine where they are buildable but i guess thats too much to ask "bigballs" No hurt feelings, Love // TreK ;] | ||
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TreKbanned
Sweden50 Posts
If u let some1 build mannerpylon at ur base u only have urself to blaime -.-v | ||
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TreKbanned
Sweden50 Posts
U dont need to stop mining with ur probes vs mannerpylons u just let 2 or 3 actually mine where the pylon can be built... ^^ | ||
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