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WombaT
Northern Ireland25956 Posts
He’s not being an especially effective wrestling heel shielding the creatives or whatever by putting his foot in it every second press release ‘Oh gee thanks for not just denying our workplace culture was/is bad but also moaning about unions. That really takes the heat off so we can focus on making games’ | ||
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Zambrah
United States7376 Posts
the financial guy always takes the hits for the creative guy. the financial guy is always seen as the "bad cop" and the creative guy who makes the super-cool software is the "good cop". The creative guys want to make cool games, the financial guys want to abuse human psychology to make money, the financial guys do the things that make them take hits, only weird nerds like you believe that its those evil creatives out there to do bad things with those notoriously humanitarian financials out there taking all the blame. Kotick wants people focusing their anger on him and not the creatives who work for him. This is why he said many years ago... "i am going to take the fun out of making video games". He wants the spotlight on him so his creatives have the latitude and freedom that anonymity brings. Kotick is just playing a role. You believing it is real is just playing into Kotick's choreographed game. "Creatives" only have the freedom that the financial psychopaths at the head of the company let them have. Which isn't very much freedom, and often requires creatives to dilute and poison there vision to insert insidious monetization to abuse people into spending more money so the financials can jerk it to their bank accounts. I hope to god that you aren't counting the game monetization specialists as creatives by the way, that'd be a pretty stupid thing to do. | ||
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cha0
Canada506 Posts
On June 03 2023 14:16 JimmyJRaynor wrote: i'm laughing not angry. good to see you laughing as well. Bonfire Games is theatre of the absurd. I must say, ATVI did an impressive job getting great productivity out of Rob Pardo. nah, i don't think he is mentally ill. i think he is over 65 and his career is winding down. he had a great run. the financial guy always takes the hits for the creative guy. the financial guy is always seen as the "bad cop" and the creative guy who makes the super-cool software is the "good cop". It is a paradigm that has been going on since 1979 when Activision was born. The "good guys" were David Crane, Bob Whitehead and the other creatives. No one gets inspired by the legal and accounting teams doing all the admin work in the background. Everyone gets inspired when David Crane can make a game like Pitfall for a Console with incredibly limited power. Kotick wants people focusing their anger on him and not the creatives who work for him. This is why he said many years ago... "i am going to take the fun out of making video games". He wants the spotlight on him so his creatives have the latitude and freedom that anonymity brings. Kotick is just playing a role. You believing it is real is just playing into Kotick's choreographed game. Kotick's yapping is basically a pro wrestling promotional interview. Multiple devs from Team 4(the Overwatch team) coming out and saying that Kotick regularly disrupted their progress by forcing them to work on his own pet projects which would end up abandoned certainly doesn't sound like him taking a hit for the creative guys. But of course you are going to claim that this is all part of the act as well and Kotick is acting as their scapegoat while not having actually disrupted them correct? | ||
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Zambrah
United States7376 Posts
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WombaT
Northern Ireland25956 Posts
On June 12 2023 12:12 cha0 wrote: Multiple devs from Team 4(the Overwatch team) coming out and saying that Kotick regularly disrupted their progress by forcing them to work on his own pet projects which would end up abandoned certainly doesn't sound like him taking a hit for the creative guys. But of course you are going to claim that this is all part of the act as well and Kotick is acting as their scapegoat while not having actually disrupted them correct? Auld Bobby Kotick is obviously the Severus Snape of the company There’ll be some big tearful reveal about how he was actually misunderstood this whole time. Poor Bobby, choosing to take the heat by having to act the cartoon villain the whole time Something tells me that the Overwatch team didn’t make the call to can the PvE modes that were really all that justified that game being a sequel rather than a big patch. Or that the Reforged team wanted to ship a remaster with half the features of the original. On the plus side Diablo 4 seems to have been something of a return to form for Blizz after a relative lean spell. I know some hardcore fans still aren’t 100% sold but as a general product it’s done pretty damn well. Odd that a game launching pretty polished and feature complete does well eh? | ||
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Manit0u
Poland17407 Posts
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada16893 Posts
On June 12 2023 12:40 Zambrah wrote: Its the mindset that assumes a perfect meritorious capitalist society and works backwards from there, Booby is rich therefore what he does has merit in all ways! Kotick started with almost nothing. In 1991, Activision was a shelved brand. The company had no one making games when he bought it and the it was called Mediagenic. The guy is a visionary who built an empire. He leveraged the child hood memories of a demographic of 20-somethings into an empire during the 1990s. When people in their 20s saw the Activision brand on a game it drew their immediate respect. Kinda like Blizzard has at many times in the past... and with Diablo4 ... still does. https://www.nytimes.com/2023/06/12/technology/diablo-iv-video-game-sales.html | ||
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Zambrah
United States7376 Posts
https://www.businessinsider.com/activision-ceo-bobby-kotick-reportedly-threatened-former-assistant-killed-2021-11#:~:text=In 2006, Activision CEO Bobby,been settled out of court. But hey, hes just playing the heel right, he threatens to have people killed because he expects it to make the news ~15 years later to cover for ABK in some way! True genius! A Visionary! | ||
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada16893 Posts
On June 13 2023 21:06 Zambrah wrote: He isn't a visionary, he's part of a caste of people who the US makes virtually incapable of failure because they have so much money and because the US places no value on anything but money. incorrect, Kotick started with nothing but a long dead and buried brand name. Nothing else. | ||
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Sermokala
United States14040 Posts
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada16893 Posts
ATVI has been squabbling with government regulators since 1979. On June 14 2023 11:23 Sermokala wrote: He increased shareholder value greatly. That should totally excuse any kind of abuse he did or allowed to happen. When he bought the brand there were 0 shareholders and 0 employees working on video games. In buying the Activision brand Kotick purchased the fond memories 20-somethings had from playing Pitfall, River Raid and Zork 10+ years earlier. When you are in charge of thousands of people for decades some bad stuff will happen. It is the law of large #s dude. + Show Spoiler + Jean Chretien was the Prime Minister of Canada when a serial rapist and murderer got only 12 years in prison and a free 4 year university education. This does not mean he was a bad PM. Also, the people claiming they know why someone committed suicide have their own private agendas. No one can know for certain the cause of a suicide. | ||
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada16893 Posts
 Deadline extended from July 18 to late August. Deal with MS altered. Larger pull out fee and a $1 dividend. Bobby is on a massive win streak. Jeanette Whipper got canned by the governor of California and the FTC got their budget cut by 25%. Lina Khan got eviscerated. | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland25956 Posts
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Zambrah
United States7376 Posts
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada16893 Posts
"hey Bobby ... King Digital microtransactions from senior citizens this week only made $1.2 billion and we projected for $1.3 billion. We'll get'em next week right Bobby?". There was a violent and super dirty NHL player who , during his playing days, was known as "Bobby Clarke". After he retired the nanosecond he got a management job for a hockey team he became "Robert Clarke". Sorta Bobby Kotick ... in reverse. | ||
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Ryzel
United States535 Posts
Not even commenting on his policies/history, could be a male Mother Teresa but that doesn’t change the face. | ||
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada16893 Posts
On July 20 2023 23:27 Ryzel wrote: Man, that guy has the most punchable face I’ve ever seen. Mission accomplished by the thumbnail creator. Maybe the thumbnail creator should get a job at the WWE. You are reacting to "Bobby"; This is a meticulously crafted fictional character. The thumbnail was changed twice before they settled on that one. Great leaders keep the spotlight shining on themselves so that the very smart people undertaking extremely difficult creative tasks can work in total privacy. I develop software applications and I prefer the Project Manager take all the heat while I work in peace. If the Project Manager has a long track record of great results, is a stickler for detail, and is a total prick that is great as well. Project Managers like that have massive budgets. The only thing I like almost as much as crafting amazing interactive digital solutions .... is money. | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland25956 Posts
On July 29 2023 01:06 JimmyJRaynor wrote: Mission accomplished by the thumbnail creator. Maybe the thumbnail creator should get a job at the WWE. You are reacting to "Bobby"; This is a meticulously crafted fictional character. The thumbnail was changed twice before they settled on that one. Great leaders keep the spotlight shining on themselves so that the very smart people undertaking extremely difficult creative tasks can work in total privacy. I develop software applications and I prefer the Project Manager take all the heat while I work in peace. If the Project Manager has a long track record of great results, is a stickler for detail, and is a total prick that is great as well. Project Managers like that have massive budgets. The only thing I like almost as much as crafting amazing interactive digital solutions .... is money. Why are you so confident that it’s a meticulously crafted fictional persona? | ||
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Zambrah
United States7376 Posts
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada16893 Posts
I can't wait for the next Borderlands game. On July 29 2023 04:34 WombaT wrote: Why are you so confident that it’s a meticulously crafted fictional persona? Because of how common it is for the financial decision makers to PLAY THE ROLE of "bad cop". its standard for the financial people to be the "bad cop" and the software makers to be the "good cop". the financial people do the firing... set the limits and scope of the project. the creatives make a working software solution possible that was impossible only months earlier. the creatives look like miracle workers. Why do you have any confidence that this dynamic, which is going on right now in almost every software creation process, is not happening at Activision? On July 29 2023 04:46 Zambrah wrote: Because his world view is warped around the idea wealth = morality. This is way off topic... but i'll humour you. People have said money is the root of all evil. has any one ever stopped to ask : "what is the root of money?" | ||
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