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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
November 20 2018 15:40 GMT
#18941
I am looking forward to Ivanka testifying before congress about this matter. It will be a great day for twitter.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Biff The Understudy
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France8128 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-11-20 16:22:05
November 20 2018 16:20 GMT
#18942
On November 21 2018 00:28 JimmiC wrote:
Some of these mistakes by the Trump government are amazing. Like How does Ivanka not know that you can't use your personal email. Did she not even understand what the "lock her up chants" were all about? This will be another interesting story to watch because Trump sure got a lot of mileage about Hillary's emails it will be interesting to see what kind of mileage the Dem's can get. I'm not sure that the "I didn't know it was wrong" defense is going to fly.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/11/20/politics/ivanka-trump-email/index.html

I mean the defense of this administration has consistently been along the lines of “we are not criminals, just totally incompetent” and “we are not liars we just have no clue what we are talking about” which flies well with a base that has no idea about anything passed some vague populist resentment.

Ivanka will be fine, most of Trump voters probably have no clue why Hillary had to be locked up for in the first place, beyond the fact she was “establishment” and a woman of power.
The fellow who is out to burn things up is the counterpart of the fool who thinks he can save the world. The world needs neither to be burned up nor to be saved. The world is, we are. Transients, if we buck it; here to stay if we accept it. ~H.Miller
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
November 20 2018 16:28 GMT
#18943
--- Nuked ---
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22453 Posts
November 20 2018 16:46 GMT
#18944
On November 21 2018 01:28 JimmiC wrote:
I get the reactions, but lets not pretend that all Trump supporters are low IQ people that don't care about things. There are a decent amount of educated intelligent Trump supporters. Enough of them to make a difference in many of these close races if the dems court them based on this sort of hypocrisy instead of of insulting them.
If this sort of thing would sway them there is a billion other more stupid things that should have already swayed them.

If they are still ok with Trump and the GOP they don't give a shit about hypocrisy.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
HwangjaeTerran
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Finland5967 Posts
November 20 2018 17:26 GMT
#18945
dems have marxists, it's not like low IQ votes are out of reach


User was warned for this post.
https://steamcommunity.com/id/*tlusernamehere*/
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9915 Posts
November 20 2018 17:32 GMT
#18946
On November 21 2018 02:26 HwangjaeTerran wrote:
dems have marxists, it's not like low IQ votes are out of reach


i know you're trolling but do you have any evidence that marxists have lower than average IQ?
RIP Meatloaf <3
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18866 Posts
November 20 2018 17:35 GMT
#18947
Given its status as a convenient moving target, I'd wager a working definition for Marxist is even more called for.
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
Wulfey_LA
Profile Joined April 2017
932 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-11-20 17:55:02
November 20 2018 17:48 GMT
#18948
EDIT2: this post is in reference to a terrible press release out of the White House explaining the DJT administration's position on Saudi Arabia and the Khashoggi murder.

DJT is going full up reddit troll logic here. This is the kind of stuff 18 year olds say three weeks into their first philosophy course. Maybe he did? Maybe he didn't? We may never know! The Turks bugged the whole embassy and listened to the whole thing go down. Who actually buys this BS? Do any of the resident Trumplickers here actually believe this crap? How do you swallow obvious horseshit like this? DJT is approaching jet fuel can't melt steel beams levels of fantasy.


King Salman and Crown Prince Mohammad bin Salman vigorously deny any knowledge of the planning or execution of the murder of Mr. Khashoggi. Our intelligence agencies continue to assess all information, but it could very well be that the Crown Prince had knowledge of this tragic event – maybe he did and maybe he didn’t!

That being said, we may never know all of the facts surrounding the murder of Mr. Jamal Khashoggi. In any case, our relationship is with the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia. They have been a great ally in our very important fight against Iran.


https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/statement-president-donald-j-trump-standing-saudi-arabia/

EDIT: also, just LOL at everyone who said Trump was some kinda of anti-WW3 peacemaker and Obama was a Yemeni killing savage.


The country of Iran, as an example, is responsible for a bloody proxy war against Saudi Arabia in Yemen,


DJT is fully on board with the idea that everything bad happening in Yemen is Iran's fault. The DJT admin has absorbed and regurgitates the total Saudi line on that ongoing catastrophe. Somehow Saudi Arabia's invasion and continued bombing campaign is Iran's fault.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
November 20 2018 18:19 GMT
#18949
Iran wouldn’t lend Trump money, which seems to be how he assesses the value other nations.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15743 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-11-20 18:25:15
November 20 2018 18:24 GMT
#18950
In light of Trump suggesting the Saudi prince may not have been involved, as seen here: https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/statement-president-donald-j-trump-standing-saudi-arabia/

I am curious how people feel about Trump's handling of the Khashoggi situation.

Poll: Trump's handling of Khashoggi

I lean left - negative (16)
 
70%

I lean left - negative (3)
 
13%

I lean left - positive (2)
 
9%

I lean right - positive (2)
 
9%

23 total votes

Your vote: Trump's handling of Khashoggi

(Vote): I lean left - positive
(Vote): I lean left - negative
(Vote): I lean right - positive
(Vote): I lean left - negative



Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
November 20 2018 18:28 GMT
#18951
On November 21 2018 02:26 HwangjaeTerran wrote:
dems have marxists, it's not like low IQ votes are out of reach

Do they? Do they really? I’m not sure you have a firm grasp of US politics if you are claiming this.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8267 Posts
November 20 2018 18:30 GMT
#18952
What about "I lean center but center in US right now is considered left for some reason but I'm not really as left as a lot of other people who would proclaim themselves left would be"?
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18866 Posts
November 20 2018 18:32 GMT
#18953
On November 21 2018 03:30 Excludos wrote:
What about "I lean center but center in US right now is considered left for some reason but I'm not really as left as a lot of other people who would proclaim themselves left would be"?

Obviously, you'd be a Marxist.
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15743 Posts
November 20 2018 18:35 GMT
#18954
On November 21 2018 03:30 Excludos wrote:
What about "I lean center but center in US right now is considered left for some reason but I'm not really as left as a lot of other people who would proclaim themselves left would be"?


In our modern political climate, 2008 centrist is modern left.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
November 20 2018 19:19 GMT
#18955
All words describing the political spectrum are becoming increasingly meaningless.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15743 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-11-20 19:29:40
November 20 2018 19:29 GMT
#18956
On November 21 2018 04:19 Plansix wrote:
All words describing the political spectrum are becoming increasingly meaningless.

Part of the problem is a lot of people, typically "centrists" or "moderates" like to pat themselves on the back for identifying as a term that has reasonable undertones. They feel like they are being a less bias person or whatever.

Not saying that's what shockey is doing though.
m4ini
Profile Joined February 2014
4215 Posts
November 20 2018 19:48 GMT
#18957
Just out of interest, what do people here think would've been the "appropriate" reaction?
On track to MA1950A.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
November 20 2018 19:54 GMT
#18958
On November 21 2018 04:48 m4ini wrote:
Just out of interest, what do people here think would've been the "appropriate" reaction?

Both parties call for investigations into why the problem persist after being was such a huge factors in the 2016 election. And an investigation into where these government emails went, if anything of value was on said emails and if any laws were broken.

After the Benghazi and email investigations there was supposed to be some report produced by congress and changes in policy. As far as I know, that never happened and nothing changed. So lets take another swing at addressing this pervasive problem with government officials using personal email for their job.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-11-20 20:48:50
November 20 2018 20:48 GMT
#18959
On November 21 2018 03:24 Mohdoo wrote:
In light of Trump suggesting the Saudi prince may not have been involved, as seen here: https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/statement-president-donald-j-trump-standing-saudi-arabia/

I am curious how people feel about Trump's handling of the Khashoggi situation.

Poll: Trump's handling of Khashoggi

I lean left - negative (16)
 
70%

I lean left - negative (3)
 
13%

I lean left - positive (2)
 
9%

I lean right - positive (2)
 
9%

23 total votes

Your vote: Trump's handling of Khashoggi

(Vote): I lean left - positive
(Vote): I lean left - negative
(Vote): I lean right - positive
(Vote): I lean left - negative




There's something wrong with this poll. Unless that's the joke and I'm being a party pooper.
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15743 Posts
November 20 2018 21:09 GMT
#18960
On November 21 2018 05:48 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2018 03:24 Mohdoo wrote:
In light of Trump suggesting the Saudi prince may not have been involved, as seen here: https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/statement-president-donald-j-trump-standing-saudi-arabia/

I am curious how people feel about Trump's handling of the Khashoggi situation.

Poll: Trump's handling of Khashoggi

I lean left - negative (16)
 
70%

I lean left - negative (3)
 
13%

I lean left - positive (2)
 
9%

I lean right - positive (2)
 
9%

23 total votes

Your vote: Trump's handling of Khashoggi

(Vote): I lean left - positive
(Vote): I lean left - negative
(Vote): I lean right - positive
(Vote): I lean left - negative




There's something wrong with this poll. Unless that's the joke and I'm being a party pooper.


The thing wrong with the poll is the time of day. It seems even making a proper poll is difficult for me in the early morning. No joke intended. Just unfiltered stupidity from your pal Mohdoo.
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