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Tempest
Profile Joined October 2015
United States147 Posts
November 13 2018 18:44 GMT
#18701
On November 13 2018 23:56 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
Here Trump lays out his grand scheme for NATO. Pay the US, or the Germans will come for you. Or something. I don't even know.



Oh man. I haven't cringed this hard in a long time.
Quick, think of some pithy cliche and toss it here
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands21685 Posts
November 13 2018 18:55 GMT
#18702
On November 13 2018 23:56 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
Here Trump lays out his grand scheme for NATO. Pay the US, or the Germans will come for you. Or something. I don't even know.

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1062311785787744256
Its simple. Trump has the intelligence of an 8 year old schoolyard bully. When confronted by 2 people working together to stop him the bully tries to drive them apart by making shit up about how they are not really friends.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
November 13 2018 19:01 GMT
#18703
CNN has filed a lawsuit against the WH for revoking Jim Acosta's press pass because their reason for doing so it made up and he was not denied access for good cause. Apparently there is a bunch of good case law supporting this, that the secret service pass cannot be used to arbitrarily deny someone access.

A lot of unforced errors by Trump recently. This one is only going to cause them headaches.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/11/13/media/cnn-sues-trump/index.html
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8075 Posts
November 13 2018 19:02 GMT
#18704
On November 14 2018 03:44 Tempest wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 13 2018 23:56 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
Here Trump lays out his grand scheme for NATO. Pay the US, or the Germans will come for you. Or something. I don't even know.

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1062311785787744256


Oh man. I haven't cringed this hard in a long time.


"Pay for NATO or not!"? So he's saying "not" is ok then?
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
November 13 2018 19:09 GMT
#18705
That Amazon deal in NYC sounds like the shadiest shit ever, completely bypassing the City council. I think Amazon is going to find out that the New York to be a bit of a problem since the November election. The democrats control the state legislature now and are already moving to block the deal because they know nothing about it.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11507 Posts
November 13 2018 19:12 GMT
#18706
On November 14 2018 04:02 Excludos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 14 2018 03:44 Tempest wrote:
On November 13 2018 23:56 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
Here Trump lays out his grand scheme for NATO. Pay the US, or the Germans will come for you. Or something. I don't even know.

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1062311785787744256


Oh man. I haven't cringed this hard in a long time.


"Pay for NATO or not!"? So he's saying "not" is ok then?


If you want to get invaded by Germans, sure.
IyMoon
Profile Joined April 2016
United States1249 Posts
November 13 2018 19:18 GMT
#18707
On November 14 2018 04:12 Simberto wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 14 2018 04:02 Excludos wrote:
On November 14 2018 03:44 Tempest wrote:
On November 13 2018 23:56 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
Here Trump lays out his grand scheme for NATO. Pay the US, or the Germans will come for you. Or something. I don't even know.

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1062311785787744256


Oh man. I haven't cringed this hard in a long time.


"Pay for NATO or not!"? So he's saying "not" is ok then?


If you want to get invaded by Germans, sure.


I just cant help but picture a lot of Germans rubbing their hands together going 'soon.....soon france will be ours!'
Something witty
iamthedave
Profile Joined February 2011
England2814 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-11-13 19:27:16
November 13 2018 19:25 GMT
#18708
On November 13 2018 23:58 TheDwf wrote:
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1062311785787744256

Note that this living disgrace who serves as your president bashes France the day it commemorates the 3 years of the 13/11 terror attacks in Paris. Imagine some foreign leader tweeting on the 11/09 to mock/attack your country. Extremely classy, isn't it?


Oh of course it isn't. But they don't care about offending other people. It's only when they're offended that they give a shit. Republicans, that is. For Democrats it's another tweet where they die slightly inside.

On November 14 2018 04:18 IyMoon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 14 2018 04:12 Simberto wrote:
On November 14 2018 04:02 Excludos wrote:
On November 14 2018 03:44 Tempest wrote:
On November 13 2018 23:56 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
Here Trump lays out his grand scheme for NATO. Pay the US, or the Germans will come for you. Or something. I don't even know.

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1062311785787744256


Oh man. I haven't cringed this hard in a long time.


"Pay for NATO or not!"? So he's saying "not" is ok then?


If you want to get invaded by Germans, sure.


I just cant help but picture a lot of Germans rubbing their hands together going 'soon.....soon france will be ours!'


That's probably how Trump literally perceives China, going by how he talks about them in economic terms.
I'm not bad at Starcraft; I just think winning's rude.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
November 13 2018 19:28 GMT
#18709
Trump picking on France about NATO funding is sort of ironic. The US straight up does not exist without France aiding us against the Crown.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
plasmidghost
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgium16168 Posts
November 13 2018 20:23 GMT
#18710
Is there any previous example of a first lady calling for a government official to be ousted? Melania Trump just called for one of Bolton's deputies to be canned

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-11-13/melania-trump-says-bolton-deputy-ricardel-should-be-ousted
Yugoslavia will always live on in my heart
Womwomwom
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
5930 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-11-13 20:29:50
November 13 2018 20:27 GMT
#18711
On November 13 2018 18:24 iPlaY.NettleS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 13 2018 16:09 WolfintheSheep wrote:
Keep in mind that this weekend was Veteran's Day. National holidays tend to be when people post celebrations as opposed to angry yelling.

Yup, and now it's like 90% election conspiracy on the front page.

It’s a conspiracy but the woman in charge of counting the votes in Broward was actually found guilty by a judge of destroying ballots in 2016 Wasserman-Schulz vote?
https://www.sun-sentinel.com/local/broward/fl-sb-broward-elections-supervisor-broke-law-snipes-canova-20180514-story,amp.html

Why was she even still there after being found guilty? Possibly just to make it easier for republicans to bring up the prior ruling and cancel the recount.


Because people there keep voting her in for whatever reason. She was shoved into the position by Jeb Bush ages ago and keeps holding onto her position via sheer internia.

Basically: it’s Florida, they’re incompetent at running elections and people there are incompetent at actually voting properly.
Nouar
Profile Joined May 2009
France3270 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-11-13 20:42:30
November 13 2018 20:41 GMT
#18712
On November 14 2018 05:27 Womwomwom wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 13 2018 18:24 iPlaY.NettleS wrote:
On November 13 2018 16:09 WolfintheSheep wrote:
Keep in mind that this weekend was Veteran's Day. National holidays tend to be when people post celebrations as opposed to angry yelling.

Yup, and now it's like 90% election conspiracy on the front page.

It’s a conspiracy but the woman in charge of counting the votes in Broward was actually found guilty by a judge of destroying ballots in 2016 Wasserman-Schulz vote?
https://www.sun-sentinel.com/local/broward/fl-sb-broward-elections-supervisor-broke-law-snipes-canova-20180514-story,amp.html

Why was she even still there after being found guilty? Possibly just to make it easier for republicans to bring up the prior ruling and cancel the recount.


Because people there keep voting her in for whatever reason. She was shoved into the position by Jeb Bush ages ago and keeps holding onto her position via sheer internia.

Basically: it’s Florida, they’re incompetent at running elections and people there are incompetent at actually voting properly.

To be fair, that lady seems like she doesn't give a **** about proper election handling, so she should probably have been gone for a while now... However, I would like to point out that this "destroying of votes" was about a retention period, destroying them a year before the legal deadline or something along those lines. It is not as if she had destroyed them just after an election... As well, she was appointed by Jeb Bush as it was said, and Scott has been controlling and overseeing elections for a while now so.... Maybe he could have done something before that ? Honestly...

Hey, Dems are in charge, blame them !
Hey, we are in charge and didn't do anything to fix it.... Hmmm.... Blame Dems !
NoiR
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
November 13 2018 20:49 GMT
#18713
That is one of the two districts in FL that leans democrat, so Rick Scott made a calculated decision by leaving her in place. After all, if she is bad at her job, there is a good change democrats won’t get to vote or their votes won’t be counted correctly. And she is a easy punching bag if the democrats come out ahead in the district.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
ReditusSum
Profile Joined September 2018
79 Posts
November 13 2018 21:02 GMT
#18714
On November 14 2018 04:01 Plansix wrote:
CNN has filed a lawsuit against the WH for revoking Jim Acosta's press pass because their reason for doing so it made up and he was not denied access for good cause. Apparently there is a bunch of good case law supporting this, that the secret service pass cannot be used to arbitrarily deny someone access.

A lot of unforced errors by Trump recently. This one is only going to cause them headaches.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/11/13/media/cnn-sues-trump/index.html

Hopefully the precedent is overturned.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
November 13 2018 21:28 GMT
#18715
On November 14 2018 06:02 ReditusSum wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 14 2018 04:01 Plansix wrote:
CNN has filed a lawsuit against the WH for revoking Jim Acosta's press pass because their reason for doing so it made up and he was not denied access for good cause. Apparently there is a bunch of good case law supporting this, that the secret service pass cannot be used to arbitrarily deny someone access.

A lot of unforced errors by Trump recently. This one is only going to cause them headaches.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/11/13/media/cnn-sues-trump/index.html

Hopefully the precedent is overturned.

Because you hate the press and freedom of speech? You worship at a strong leaders feet and allow him to dictate who can bring you information?

You really need to bring more to the table than this, otherwise folks are going to be left wondering why you would want the president to pick which reporters get to cover the White House.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18826 Posts
November 13 2018 21:31 GMT
#18716
Anyone who reads the thread can identify strained apologetics when they see it
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
plasmidghost
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgium16168 Posts
November 13 2018 21:33 GMT
#18717
Didn't Alex Jones at one point have a WH press pass? Imagine everyone in the press corps is just like him, I can barely stomach the thought
Yugoslavia will always live on in my heart
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-11-13 21:38:06
November 13 2018 21:35 GMT
#18718
On November 14 2018 06:31 farvacola wrote:
Anyone who reads the thread can identify strained apologetics when they see it


We have mastered that craft, for sure. But I enjoy seeing how far they will strain themselves. These days, it’s not that far.

On November 14 2018 06:33 plasmidghost wrote:
Didn't Alex Jones at one point have a WH press pass? Imagine everyone in the press corps is just like him, I can barely stomach the thought

Yes. And the press is used to clowns and yellow journalists anyways. It is part of the job and sort of the point of the press.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
IgnE
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7681 Posts
November 13 2018 22:14 GMT
#18719
is acosta not a yellow journalist and a clown?
The unrealistic sound of these propositions is indicative, not of their utopian character, but of the strength of the forces which prevent their realization.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35147 Posts
November 13 2018 22:17 GMT
#18720
On November 14 2018 05:23 plasmidghost wrote:
Is there any previous example of a first lady calling for a government official to be ousted? Melania Trump just called for one of Bolton's deputies to be canned

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-11-13/melania-trump-says-bolton-deputy-ricardel-should-be-ousted

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