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Introvert
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United States5029 Posts
September 26 2018 19:54 GMT
#14761
On September 27 2018 03:32 m4ini wrote:
I still am not entirely sure how "republicans" here can simply straight faced say that these women are planted assassins by democrats, trying to complete their immoral "hit" on Kavanaugh.

Not understanding that these women also have something to lose. I'd like Danglars etc to explicitly and unmistakably make clear that they are convinced that these three women are liars. And why it isn't possible to investigate the claims properly, but have to be ignored so he can be confirmed. Why beat around the bush? It's obnoxiously evident that you do, and i understand that beating around the bush and trying to point at hillary (or something another democrat did at some point in the US history) is the common defense, but let it hear clear and proud. Be a "man" and make clear that these women are lying. Because there's no "grey". Either you think it should be investigated, or you think it shouldn't be investigated - the latter being equal to calling them liars, so just do it directly. In regards to "it's so long ago, who gives a shit" - might want to call 999-JAILBEHERE and ask for Bill Cosby.

Sidenote, i loved reading that "conservative" ranting about UK free speech laws, when 99% of republicans were moronically screeching for jail sentences for people who burned the US flag. Including every single one here.


Hold on there. There's too much hot garbage flying through here right now to respond with limited time, but where on earth you come up with that last claim about flag burning I have no idea. I do not advocate jail sentances for flag burning, and I dare you find somewhere that I did.

And not a single person seemed to dispute this. Good stuff.
"But, as the conservative understands it, modification of the rules should always reflect, and never impose, a change in the activities and beliefs of those who are subject to them, and should never on any occasion be so great as to destroy the ensemble."
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
September 26 2018 19:58 GMT
#14762
On September 27 2018 04:54 Introvert wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2018 03:32 m4ini wrote:
I still am not entirely sure how "republicans" here can simply straight faced say that these women are planted assassins by democrats, trying to complete their immoral "hit" on Kavanaugh.

Not understanding that these women also have something to lose. I'd like Danglars etc to explicitly and unmistakably make clear that they are convinced that these three women are liars. And why it isn't possible to investigate the claims properly, but have to be ignored so he can be confirmed. Why beat around the bush? It's obnoxiously evident that you do, and i understand that beating around the bush and trying to point at hillary (or something another democrat did at some point in the US history) is the common defense, but let it hear clear and proud. Be a "man" and make clear that these women are lying. Because there's no "grey". Either you think it should be investigated, or you think it shouldn't be investigated - the latter being equal to calling them liars, so just do it directly. In regards to "it's so long ago, who gives a shit" - might want to call 999-JAILBEHERE and ask for Bill Cosby.

Sidenote, i loved reading that "conservative" ranting about UK free speech laws, when 99% of republicans were moronically screeching for jail sentences for people who burned the US flag. Including every single one here.


Hold on there. There's too much hot garbage flying through here right now to respond with limited time, but where on earth you come up with that last claim about flag burning I have no idea. I do not advocate jail sentances for flag burning, and I dare you find somewhere that I did.

And not a single person seemed to dispute this. Good stuff.

We wanted to give you the chance to respond to your favorite type of post, hyperbolic depictions of republicans. Otherwise you wouldn’t visit the thread and we would miss you.

Very few people in the US want to see flag burning turned into a criminal offense, Republican or otherwise.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Introvert
Profile Joined April 2011
United States5029 Posts
September 26 2018 20:04 GMT
#14763
On September 27 2018 04:58 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2018 04:54 Introvert wrote:
On September 27 2018 03:32 m4ini wrote:
I still am not entirely sure how "republicans" here can simply straight faced say that these women are planted assassins by democrats, trying to complete their immoral "hit" on Kavanaugh.

Not understanding that these women also have something to lose. I'd like Danglars etc to explicitly and unmistakably make clear that they are convinced that these three women are liars. And why it isn't possible to investigate the claims properly, but have to be ignored so he can be confirmed. Why beat around the bush? It's obnoxiously evident that you do, and i understand that beating around the bush and trying to point at hillary (or something another democrat did at some point in the US history) is the common defense, but let it hear clear and proud. Be a "man" and make clear that these women are lying. Because there's no "grey". Either you think it should be investigated, or you think it shouldn't be investigated - the latter being equal to calling them liars, so just do it directly. In regards to "it's so long ago, who gives a shit" - might want to call 999-JAILBEHERE and ask for Bill Cosby.

Sidenote, i loved reading that "conservative" ranting about UK free speech laws, when 99% of republicans were moronically screeching for jail sentences for people who burned the US flag. Including every single one here.


Hold on there. There's too much hot garbage flying through here right now to respond with limited time, but where on earth you come up with that last claim about flag burning I have no idea. I do not advocate jail sentances for flag burning, and I dare you find somewhere that I did.

And not a single person seemed to dispute this. Good stuff.

We wanted to give you the chance to respond to your favorite type of post, hyperbolic depictions of republicans. Otherwise you wouldn’t visit the thread and we would miss you.

Very few people in the US want to see flag burning turned into a criminal offense, Republican or otherwise.


I assume that was sarcastic, though sometimes you have to take the freebies to remind people that they are actually freebies.
"But, as the conservative understands it, modification of the rules should always reflect, and never impose, a change in the activities and beliefs of those who are subject to them, and should never on any occasion be so great as to destroy the ensemble."
On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
September 26 2018 20:05 GMT
#14764
FYI Grassley said the hearing is still on tomorrow. Also, the vote for Friday has yet to be canceled. So I guess we'll get these old fucks on record being terrible, which is something.
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
September 26 2018 20:09 GMT
#14765
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
September 26 2018 20:12 GMT
#14766
On September 27 2018 05:04 Introvert wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2018 04:58 Plansix wrote:
On September 27 2018 04:54 Introvert wrote:
On September 27 2018 03:32 m4ini wrote:
I still am not entirely sure how "republicans" here can simply straight faced say that these women are planted assassins by democrats, trying to complete their immoral "hit" on Kavanaugh.

Not understanding that these women also have something to lose. I'd like Danglars etc to explicitly and unmistakably make clear that they are convinced that these three women are liars. And why it isn't possible to investigate the claims properly, but have to be ignored so he can be confirmed. Why beat around the bush? It's obnoxiously evident that you do, and i understand that beating around the bush and trying to point at hillary (or something another democrat did at some point in the US history) is the common defense, but let it hear clear and proud. Be a "man" and make clear that these women are lying. Because there's no "grey". Either you think it should be investigated, or you think it shouldn't be investigated - the latter being equal to calling them liars, so just do it directly. In regards to "it's so long ago, who gives a shit" - might want to call 999-JAILBEHERE and ask for Bill Cosby.

Sidenote, i loved reading that "conservative" ranting about UK free speech laws, when 99% of republicans were moronically screeching for jail sentences for people who burned the US flag. Including every single one here.


Hold on there. There's too much hot garbage flying through here right now to respond with limited time, but where on earth you come up with that last claim about flag burning I have no idea. I do not advocate jail sentances for flag burning, and I dare you find somewhere that I did.

And not a single person seemed to dispute this. Good stuff.

We wanted to give you the chance to respond to your favorite type of post, hyperbolic depictions of republicans. Otherwise you wouldn’t visit the thread and we would miss you.

Very few people in the US want to see flag burning turned into a criminal offense, Republican or otherwise.


I assume that was sarcastic, though sometimes you have to take the freebies to remind people that they are actually freebies.

Sometimes people use a bit of hyperbole to emphasize the point they are trying to make, with varying levels of success. In the matter at hand, m4ini is responding to the ham fisted attempt to depict the UK as this authoritarian state of repressed speech from earlier today; in which the poster lacked basic knowledge about the UK and what makes up an authoritarian state.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Introvert
Profile Joined April 2011
United States5029 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-09-26 20:12:50
September 26 2018 20:12 GMT
#14767
On September 27 2018 05:05 On_Slaught wrote:
FYI Grassley said the hearing is still on tomorrow. Also, the vote for Friday has yet to be canceled. So I guess we'll get these old fucks on record being terrible, which is something.


ok this is easy enough. They gave notice of a vote. Rules require 3 days notice, that's why Grassley did that. If Ford doesn't appear they go on. They did not officially call the vote, as I understand it.
"But, as the conservative understands it, modification of the rules should always reflect, and never impose, a change in the activities and beliefs of those who are subject to them, and should never on any occasion be so great as to destroy the ensemble."
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
September 26 2018 20:15 GMT
#14768
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
September 26 2018 20:21 GMT
#14769
On September 27 2018 05:12 Introvert wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2018 05:05 On_Slaught wrote:
FYI Grassley said the hearing is still on tomorrow. Also, the vote for Friday has yet to be canceled. So I guess we'll get these old fucks on record being terrible, which is something.


ok this is easy enough. They gave notice of a vote. Rules require 3 days notice, that's why Grassley dis that. I'd Ford doesn't appear they go on. They did not officially call the vote, as I understand it.

There are new allegations today that are far more serious, were signed under oath and were made by an federal attorney. I doubt they are going to charge forward even if Ford does not appear.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15743 Posts
September 26 2018 20:22 GMT
#14770
On September 27 2018 05:15 JimmiC wrote:
Fords team is bringing up the report from the polygraph she took. Again I think it is pointless because people who don't believe her will continue to not and vice versa. I guess it stops the, it never happened because she won't reveal it, but it will just move to the, it is fake or junk science or whatever (and it basically is). They have said they won't release her medical records. Which I think is fair, people don't need their therapy notes gone through with the intent of proving her wrong. I'm sure there must be a way to prove/disprove that she said this without opening up her medical records.

Show nested quote +
Ford's lawyers provide polygraph report to Senate Judiciary Committee
From CNN's Phil Mattingly

Debra Katz and Lisa Banks, attorney's for Dr. Christine Blasey Ford, have sent a letter to Senate Judiciary Committee staff that contains Ford's polygraph test results showing the probability that she is being deceptive in her accusations was revealed to be close to zero in three separate tests.


The lawyers also say in the letter they won’t provide Ford’s medical records to the committee.


Sure, release whatever bullshit she wants. But she better still show up. I am still not convinced she is going to show up.
On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-09-26 20:22:41
September 26 2018 20:22 GMT
#14771
On September 27 2018 05:12 Introvert wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2018 05:05 On_Slaught wrote:
FYI Grassley said the hearing is still on tomorrow. Also, the vote for Friday has yet to be canceled. So I guess we'll get these old fucks on record being terrible, which is something.


ok this is easy enough. They gave notice of a vote. Rules require 3 days notice, that's why Grassley did that. If Ford doesn't appear they go on. They did not officially call the vote, as I understand it.


Lol ok let's just ignore the other two women then. Not like they could possibly justify announcing that the vote wont be able to happen in light of the other women's accusations. Maybe they are afraid more women will come out.

Apparently Kavanaugh denied Swetnicks accusations under oath himself. So now we have 2 employees of the federal government accusing each other of crimes (one for sexual misconduct and the other for lying under oath) under threat of perjury. Sounds to me like good cause to slow things down.
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
September 26 2018 20:27 GMT
#14772
On September 27 2018 05:22 On_Slaught wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2018 05:12 Introvert wrote:
On September 27 2018 05:05 On_Slaught wrote:
FYI Grassley said the hearing is still on tomorrow. Also, the vote for Friday has yet to be canceled. So I guess we'll get these old fucks on record being terrible, which is something.


ok this is easy enough. They gave notice of a vote. Rules require 3 days notice, that's why Grassley did that. If Ford doesn't appear they go on. They did not officially call the vote, as I understand it.


Lol ok let's just ignore the other two women then. Not like they could possibly justify announcing that the vote wont be able to happen in light of the other women's accusations. Maybe they are afraid more women will come out.

Apparently Kavanaugh denied Swetnicks accusations under oath himself. So now we have 2 employees of the federal government accusing each other of crimes (one for sexual misconduct and the other for lying under oath) under threat of perjury. Sounds to me like good cause to slow things down.


So what you're saying is we need a complete and utter shutdown till we can figure out what the hell is going on.
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44311 Posts
September 26 2018 20:32 GMT
#14773
On September 27 2018 05:27 ticklishmusic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2018 05:22 On_Slaught wrote:
On September 27 2018 05:12 Introvert wrote:
On September 27 2018 05:05 On_Slaught wrote:
FYI Grassley said the hearing is still on tomorrow. Also, the vote for Friday has yet to be canceled. So I guess we'll get these old fucks on record being terrible, which is something.


ok this is easy enough. They gave notice of a vote. Rules require 3 days notice, that's why Grassley did that. If Ford doesn't appear they go on. They did not officially call the vote, as I understand it.


Lol ok let's just ignore the other two women then. Not like they could possibly justify announcing that the vote wont be able to happen in light of the other women's accusations. Maybe they are afraid more women will come out.

Apparently Kavanaugh denied Swetnicks accusations under oath himself. So now we have 2 employees of the federal government accusing each other of crimes (one for sexual misconduct and the other for lying under oath) under threat of perjury. Sounds to me like good cause to slow things down.


So what you're saying is we need a complete and utter shutdown till we can figure out what the hell is going on.

If there was a legitimate rape the legislative body has ways of shutting this all down.
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JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
September 26 2018 20:34 GMT
#14774
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On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-09-26 21:12:56
September 26 2018 21:03 GMT
#14775
Trump is giving a live press conference right now. He is expected to talk about both Rosenstein and Kavanaugh after he gets past all the economic hyperbole.

Edit: LOL Trump just said he doesn't know why Obama left so many judgeships open when he left office. Said he assumes he must have been tired. Nobody is this stupid, are they?

Also, Acosta is annoying.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
September 26 2018 21:14 GMT
#14776
There is a section of the population that is that stupid and has no concept of civics or government. But they alone cannot win elections. But they do sometimes bomb into this thread with some amazingly misinformed posting.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
September 26 2018 21:25 GMT
#14777
God our reporters suck. No wonder he gets away with so much.
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15743 Posts
September 26 2018 21:25 GMT
#14778
On September 27 2018 06:25 On_Slaught wrote:
God our reporters suck. No wonder he gets away with so much.


Complete trash.
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
September 26 2018 21:27 GMT
#14779
Couple good questions, but Trump is staying relatively in control. But also lying his ass off and its hard to fact check in these sessions.
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15743 Posts
September 26 2018 21:28 GMT
#14780
Why the fuck is no one asking why he won't let the other women speak??
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