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On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
September 26 2018 17:11 GMT
#14721
On September 27 2018 02:07 NewSunshine wrote:
The idea that the only person with anything to lose here is Kavanaugh is pretty messed up. Women who come forward with allegations, even true ones, can be harassed for a long time afterward, just by rocking the boat. Therefore, the idea that these women are speaking up only because they found a politically convenient opportunity is equally laughable. It belittles the experience that women have gone through, and it likewise belittles the wager they themselves make by coming forward.

Add on top that Kavanaugh is far from some innocent victim here. Republicans are trying to anoint him to the highest court in the land. The fact that the entire Republican leadership are trying to go through with this with so little scrutiny into their candidate is depressing. This isn't some retail job where any warm body will do.


Dont forget that the accusers are asking for an investigation while the accused is not. Not exactly something you do if you're lying and any evidence found contradicting your statements would put your careers, if not your lives, at risk.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
September 26 2018 17:13 GMT
#14722
On September 27 2018 02:11 On_Slaught wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2018 02:07 NewSunshine wrote:
The idea that the only person with anything to lose here is Kavanaugh is pretty messed up. Women who come forward with allegations, even true ones, can be harassed for a long time afterward, just by rocking the boat. Therefore, the idea that these women are speaking up only because they found a politically convenient opportunity is equally laughable. It belittles the experience that women have gone through, and it likewise belittles the wager they themselves make by coming forward.

Add on top that Kavanaugh is far from some innocent victim here. Republicans are trying to anoint him to the highest court in the land. The fact that the entire Republican leadership are trying to go through with this with so little scrutiny into their candidate is depressing. This isn't some retail job where any warm body will do.


Dont forget that the accusers are asking for an investigation while the accused is not. Not exactly something you do if you're lying and any evidence found contradicting your statements would put your careers, if not your lives, at risk.

And none of them have appeared on TV to say they were good girls, like the Virgin Mary but nicer.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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NewSunshine
Profile Joined July 2011
United States5938 Posts
September 26 2018 17:15 GMT
#14723
On September 27 2018 02:13 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2018 02:11 On_Slaught wrote:
On September 27 2018 02:07 NewSunshine wrote:
The idea that the only person with anything to lose here is Kavanaugh is pretty messed up. Women who come forward with allegations, even true ones, can be harassed for a long time afterward, just by rocking the boat. Therefore, the idea that these women are speaking up only because they found a politically convenient opportunity is equally laughable. It belittles the experience that women have gone through, and it likewise belittles the wager they themselves make by coming forward.

Add on top that Kavanaugh is far from some innocent victim here. Republicans are trying to anoint him to the highest court in the land. The fact that the entire Republican leadership are trying to go through with this with so little scrutiny into their candidate is depressing. This isn't some retail job where any warm body will do.


Dont forget that the accusers are asking for an investigation while the accused is not. Not exactly something you do if you're lying and any evidence found contradicting your statements would put your careers, if not your lives, at risk.

And none of them have appeared on TV to say they were good girls, like the Virgin Mary but nicer.

I'm going to have to see a calendar they kept from the time, showing that they did nothing wrong ever and were virgins until the time of the assault.

I hope that sounds ridiculous.
"If you find yourself feeling lost, take pride in the accuracy of your feelings." - Night Vale
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
September 26 2018 17:16 GMT
#14724
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NewSunshine
Profile Joined July 2011
United States5938 Posts
September 26 2018 17:19 GMT
#14725
On September 27 2018 02:16 JimmiC wrote:
Perhaps Kavanaugh should push for the investigation so that he can clear his name and protect his very important reputation. If he is as squeaky clean as he says he is, which is pretty impressive. Than he should want a full investigation so that this dirty cloud isn't hanging above him dirtying his pristine reputation.

If he wants to go back on his "what happens in prep school stays in prep school" garbage and ask for such an investigation, I think that would be a welcome sight. Keep in mind that there are two sides in this argument, and they aren't each doing the same thing. One side is calling for all the allegations to be dropped and for Kavanaugh to assume his position, the other is merely calling for investigation and scrutiny in the face of some pretty serious allegations before we do anything else. That lack of parity is pretty telling.
"If you find yourself feeling lost, take pride in the accuracy of your feelings." - Night Vale
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
September 26 2018 17:20 GMT
#14726
On September 27 2018 02:15 NewSunshine wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2018 02:13 Plansix wrote:
On September 27 2018 02:11 On_Slaught wrote:
On September 27 2018 02:07 NewSunshine wrote:
The idea that the only person with anything to lose here is Kavanaugh is pretty messed up. Women who come forward with allegations, even true ones, can be harassed for a long time afterward, just by rocking the boat. Therefore, the idea that these women are speaking up only because they found a politically convenient opportunity is equally laughable. It belittles the experience that women have gone through, and it likewise belittles the wager they themselves make by coming forward.

Add on top that Kavanaugh is far from some innocent victim here. Republicans are trying to anoint him to the highest court in the land. The fact that the entire Republican leadership are trying to go through with this with so little scrutiny into their candidate is depressing. This isn't some retail job where any warm body will do.


Dont forget that the accusers are asking for an investigation while the accused is not. Not exactly something you do if you're lying and any evidence found contradicting your statements would put your careers, if not your lives, at risk.

And none of them have appeared on TV to say they were good girls, like the Virgin Mary but nicer.

I'm going to have to see a calendar they kept from the time, showing that they did nothing wrong ever and were virgins until the time of the assault.

I hope that sounds ridiculous.

God, I want there to be an investigation where they look at those calendars and find them to be forgeries. This has all been so dumb up to this point with his good little school boy act on Fox, I can't help but feel those things are complete bullshit.
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Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States7542 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-09-26 17:33:11
September 26 2018 17:30 GMT
#14727
On September 27 2018 02:20 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2018 02:15 NewSunshine wrote:
On September 27 2018 02:13 Plansix wrote:
On September 27 2018 02:11 On_Slaught wrote:
On September 27 2018 02:07 NewSunshine wrote:
The idea that the only person with anything to lose here is Kavanaugh is pretty messed up. Women who come forward with allegations, even true ones, can be harassed for a long time afterward, just by rocking the boat. Therefore, the idea that these women are speaking up only because they found a politically convenient opportunity is equally laughable. It belittles the experience that women have gone through, and it likewise belittles the wager they themselves make by coming forward.

Add on top that Kavanaugh is far from some innocent victim here. Republicans are trying to anoint him to the highest court in the land. The fact that the entire Republican leadership are trying to go through with this with so little scrutiny into their candidate is depressing. This isn't some retail job where any warm body will do.


Dont forget that the accusers are asking for an investigation while the accused is not. Not exactly something you do if you're lying and any evidence found contradicting your statements would put your careers, if not your lives, at risk.

And none of them have appeared on TV to say they were good girls, like the Virgin Mary but nicer.

I'm going to have to see a calendar they kept from the time, showing that they did nothing wrong ever and were virgins until the time of the assault.

I hope that sounds ridiculous.

God, I want there to be an investigation where they look at those calendars and find them to be forgeries. This has all been so dumb up to this point with his good little school boy act on Fox, I can't help but feel those things are complete bullshit.



I enjoy the fact that there's a good chance a personal calendar of his would be covered in crude drawings of dongs (or something equally stupid) just because that's the sort of dumb stuff people get up to in high school.
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pmh
Profile Joined March 2016
1366 Posts
September 26 2018 17:33 GMT
#14728
Trade war anyone? lol.
I see there is little interest in discussing it and I can understand it a bit with kavanaugh now in the news.
But the trade war is very important for how the world will develop in this century. It is the prelude of the American/Chinese showdown that is expected to take place in one form or another when china,s economic power becomes larger then the economic power of the usa. I will keep bringing it up now and then,maybe next time is a better moment.
Wulfey_LA
Profile Joined April 2017
932 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-09-26 17:35:45
September 26 2018 17:34 GMT
#14729
We are past the tipping point phase in this #MeToo scandal. The flood of credible accusations has piled up even paid spin monkeys can[not] keep a straight face defending him. Anti abortion organizations that are 1.5 million in the hole defending KAV can't even keep the farce going.


CRAIG MELVIN: Should Judge Kavanaugh still be confirmed?
JUDICIAL CRISIS NETWORK CHIEF COUNSEL: Think we have to look into this further

+ Show Spoiler +




So is anyone on this thread going to reconsider spinning for him? KAV never said a true thing about his background or how he would rule on cases or how he conducted himself as a Bush lackey during the whole process. Yet be damned if people didn't rally behind him like the next Donald J Trump.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
September 26 2018 17:38 GMT
#14730
On September 27 2018 02:33 pmh wrote:
Trade war anyone? lol.
I see there is little interest in discussing it and I can understand it a bit with kavanaugh now in the news.
But the trade war is very important for how the world will develop in this century. It is the prelude of the American/Chinese showdown that is expected to take place in one form or another when china,s economic power becomes larger then the economic power of the usa. I will keep bringing it up now and then,maybe next time is a better moment.

The problem with the trade war is that there is really nothing to discuss politically. The Republican congress has no plans to strip the president of his powers to set tariffs at a whim and only the elections will change the current stance.

The trade war is also a long term battle that won’t hit the general public until maybe next year. But companies like Walmart are saying it will be bad for prices. But until we start getting hit with an extra $250 in tariff tax on a $1000 iphone, the country isn’t going to pay that much attention. After all, there isn’t a lot of context for what a trade war feels like for the modern American.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-09-26 17:51:50
September 26 2018 17:40 GMT
#14731
On September 27 2018 02:13 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2018 02:11 On_Slaught wrote:
On September 27 2018 02:07 NewSunshine wrote:
The idea that the only person with anything to lose here is Kavanaugh is pretty messed up. Women who come forward with allegations, even true ones, can be harassed for a long time afterward, just by rocking the boat. Therefore, the idea that these women are speaking up only because they found a politically convenient opportunity is equally laughable. It belittles the experience that women have gone through, and it likewise belittles the wager they themselves make by coming forward.

Add on top that Kavanaugh is far from some innocent victim here. Republicans are trying to anoint him to the highest court in the land. The fact that the entire Republican leadership are trying to go through with this with so little scrutiny into their candidate is depressing. This isn't some retail job where any warm body will do.


Dont forget that the accusers are asking for an investigation while the accused is not. Not exactly something you do if you're lying and any evidence found contradicting your statements would put your careers, if not your lives, at risk.

And none of them have appeared on TV to say they were good girls, like the Virgin Mary but nicer.


Oh yeah I almost forgot. These women are out in the public sphere while Judge is in hiding and running from reporters (he ran to another state). Not exactly going to bat for his buddy Kavanaugh. If he isnt subpoenaed then it's impossible to consider this matter thoroughly investigated.
ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
September 26 2018 17:42 GMT
#14732
Yea most people right now don't notice the affects of the tariff's yet, but once they do, they're going to force people that don't have money as it is, to pay even more... The people in poverty always get the worst end.
Life?
Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
September 26 2018 18:01 GMT
#14733
GOP will be bringing out its main sexual assaulter to defend Kavanaugh today. Get your popcorn ready. This is going to be some theater. Doubtful he will be listening to his chaperones before this one.

Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
September 26 2018 18:02 GMT
#14734
Trade wars are big, abstract scary things that can push along the total collapse economies. They made the average voter feel meaningless in the economic struggle between countries.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States7542 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-09-26 18:03:30
September 26 2018 18:03 GMT
#14735
On September 27 2018 02:40 On_Slaught wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2018 02:13 Plansix wrote:
On September 27 2018 02:11 On_Slaught wrote:
On September 27 2018 02:07 NewSunshine wrote:
The idea that the only person with anything to lose here is Kavanaugh is pretty messed up. Women who come forward with allegations, even true ones, can be harassed for a long time afterward, just by rocking the boat. Therefore, the idea that these women are speaking up only because they found a politically convenient opportunity is equally laughable. It belittles the experience that women have gone through, and it likewise belittles the wager they themselves make by coming forward.

Add on top that Kavanaugh is far from some innocent victim here. Republicans are trying to anoint him to the highest court in the land. The fact that the entire Republican leadership are trying to go through with this with so little scrutiny into their candidate is depressing. This isn't some retail job where any warm body will do.


Dont forget that the accusers are asking for an investigation while the accused is not. Not exactly something you do if you're lying and any evidence found contradicting your statements would put your careers, if not your lives, at risk.

And none of them have appeared on TV to say they were good girls, like the Virgin Mary but nicer.


Oh yeah I almost forgot. These women are out in the public sphere while Judge is in hiding and running from reporters (he ran to another state). Not exactly going to bat for his buddy Kavanaugh. If he isnt subpoenaed then it's impossible to consider this matter thoroughly investigated.


Speaking of Judge:

Judge, tracked down to a beach house in Delaware, merely said to a Washington Post reporter, “How did you find me?”


https://theintercept.com/2018/09/25/brett-kavanaugh-accusations-mark-judge/

Idk that there's all that much that's totally new in the article, but it's not a bad run down of who Judge is.
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
September 26 2018 18:06 GMT
#14736
I totally forgot that Judge wrote a book about drinking with Kavanaugh. Why would Kavanaugh go on Fox acting like he was a saint in high school when that book exists? He is to stupid to be on the Supreme Court.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15725 Posts
September 26 2018 18:14 GMT
#14737
On September 27 2018 03:06 Plansix wrote:
I totally forgot that Judge wrote a book about drinking with Kavanaugh. Why would Kavanaugh go on Fox acting like he was a saint in high school when that book exists? He is to stupid to be on the Supreme Court.


His clumsiness and potential for blackmail are exactly the reasons they are trying to put him on the supreme court, lol
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
September 26 2018 18:14 GMT
#14738
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Wulfey_LA
Profile Joined April 2017
932 Posts
September 26 2018 18:18 GMT
#14739
On September 27 2018 03:14 JimmiC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2018 03:06 Plansix wrote:
I totally forgot that Judge wrote a book about drinking with Kavanaugh. Why would Kavanaugh go on Fox acting like he was a saint in high school when that book exists? He is to stupid to be on the Supreme Court.

Wait, are you insinuating that Bart O’Kavanaugh is Brent Kavanaugh? I won't accept this without a thorough investigation. And if it is true how did it escape the FBI back ground check? I mean he went on Fox news and said he is angel what more do you need?




On the other hand, are you sure that such an investigation won't be futile? How can we know who Mark Judge was referring to in his own book? It will end up inconclusive under the BIDEN RULE.
chocorush
Profile Joined June 2009
694 Posts
September 26 2018 18:24 GMT
#14740
I mean, to be fair, what's the point of making up a fake alias if you're going to make it so similar to the person you are referring to? You have to be a real idiot to think that would work.
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