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ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
March 29 2018 20:37 GMT
#1141
On March 30 2018 02:40 Plansix wrote:
Facebook was made aware of this problem in 2016 and said they were going to address it. They have done nothing. Everything is a PR problem for them, not a legal problem. The only good side to the whole Facebook problem is it is giving us a perfect example of what lack of oversight and regulation can accomplish.


Well, their stock price has taken quite a beating FWIW (also RIP to my holdings, lol). I'd expect the big institutional shareholders to let Zuck know that they are displeased, and he should consider his job less secure than it was a month ago.

Anyways, maybe after midterms we pass some serious updates to FCRA and related rules.
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
March 29 2018 21:00 GMT
#1142


The ousted VA secretary has an opinion peice in the times worth reading. I believe this link let’s you past the pay wall. As a lot of people feared, there is a push to privatize the VA. But more troubling is there is VA secretary welcomed the public debate, but the administration didn’t want it. They just want to privatize and pick some company to make money off of veterans health care.
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mierin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4943 Posts
March 29 2018 21:34 GMT
#1143
On March 30 2018 06:00 Plansix wrote:
https://twitter.com/froomkin/status/979423953058922496

The ousted VA secretary has an opinion peice in the times worth reading. I believe this link let’s you past the pay wall. As a lot of people feared, there is a push to privatize the VA. But more troubling is there is VA secretary welcomed the public debate, but the administration didn’t want it. They just want to privatize and pick some company to make money off of veterans health care.


Welcome to America, home of the rich getting richer at the expense of the unfortunate poor. The statue of liberty has become a poor representation of this country.
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zlefin
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States7689 Posts
March 29 2018 21:49 GMT
#1144
On March 30 2018 06:34 mierin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2018 06:00 Plansix wrote:
https://twitter.com/froomkin/status/979423953058922496

The ousted VA secretary has an opinion peice in the times worth reading. I believe this link let’s you past the pay wall. As a lot of people feared, there is a push to privatize the VA. But more troubling is there is VA secretary welcomed the public debate, but the administration didn’t want it. They just want to privatize and pick some company to make money off of veterans health care.


Welcome to America, home of the rich getting richer at the expense of the unfortunate poor. The statue of liberty has become a poor representation of this country.

has become would imply it was ever truly different; are you claiming it was once truly different?
Great read: http://shorensteincenter.org/news-coverage-2016-general-election/ great book on democracy: http://press.princeton.edu/titles/10671.html zlefin is grumpier due to long term illness. Ignoring some users.
A3th3r
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
United States319 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-29 23:29:19
March 29 2018 21:50 GMT
#1145
the thing that's news to me about this current presidential office is that I have NEVER seen an office that hires & fires so many people so often. Working at a factory there is some turn over but it is a performance measured system where each person has a weekly standard that they need to match, so the way that all of that is handled is clear & makes sense. The unions make sure of that. Meanwhile, in the Oval Office, there's a new guy every week & a person who is canned every other week. I don't know what to think about that!

https://www.nationalreview.com/news/trump-fires-va-secretary-shulkin-nominates-ronny-jackson/
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zlefin
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States7689 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-29 21:54:54
March 29 2018 21:54 GMT
#1146
On March 30 2018 06:50 A3th3r wrote:
the thing that's new's to me about this current presidential office is that I have NEVER seen an office that hires & fires so many people so often. Working at a factory there is some turn over but it is a performance measured system where each person has a weekly standard that they need to match, so the way that all of that is handled is clear & makes sense. The unions make sure of that. Meanwhile, in the Oval Office, there's a new guy every week & a person who is canned every other week. I don't know what to think about that!

https://www.nationalreview.com/news/trump-fires-va-secretary-shulkin-nominates-ronny-jackson/

i recommend thinking the obvious and simple answer: it's a sign of terrible management. either in hiring the wrong people, or just being a terrible place to work with a bad boss.
Great read: http://shorensteincenter.org/news-coverage-2016-general-election/ great book on democracy: http://press.princeton.edu/titles/10671.html zlefin is grumpier due to long term illness. Ignoring some users.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
March 29 2018 22:21 GMT
#1147
On March 30 2018 06:50 A3th3r wrote:
the thing that's new's to me about this current presidential office is that I have NEVER seen an office that hires & fires so many people so often. Working at a factory there is some turn over but it is a performance measured system where each person has a weekly standard that they need to match, so the way that all of that is handled is clear & makes sense. The unions make sure of that. Meanwhile, in the Oval Office, there's a new guy every week & a person who is canned every other week. I don't know what to think about that!

https://www.nationalreview.com/news/trump-fires-va-secretary-shulkin-nominates-ronny-jackson/

He was a reality TV star of a show that centered around firing people. Which was not a huge departure from how he ran all his business, many of which failed. None of this is shocking. This is exactly what his critics said would happen.
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FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
March 29 2018 22:38 GMT
#1148
On March 30 2018 06:00 Plansix wrote:
https://twitter.com/froomkin/status/979423953058922496

The ousted VA secretary has an opinion peice in the times worth reading. I believe this link let’s you past the pay wall. As a lot of people feared, there is a push to privatize the VA. But more troubling is there is VA secretary welcomed the public debate, but the administration didn’t want it. They just want to privatize and pick some company to make money off of veterans health care.

I don't understand...the military men and veterans are the main group this adminstration keeps praising.. Do they really need to fuck over even them for profit
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Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands21685 Posts
March 29 2018 22:41 GMT
#1149
On March 30 2018 07:38 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2018 06:00 Plansix wrote:
https://twitter.com/froomkin/status/979423953058922496

The ousted VA secretary has an opinion peice in the times worth reading. I believe this link let’s you past the pay wall. As a lot of people feared, there is a push to privatize the VA. But more troubling is there is VA secretary welcomed the public debate, but the administration didn’t want it. They just want to privatize and pick some company to make money off of veterans health care.

I don't understand...the military men and veterans are the main group this adminstration keeps praising.. Do they really need to fuck over even them for profit
Your mistake is listening to their words rather then looking at their actions.
Nothing about this administration shows any regard for veterans.
Heck their words don't even add up considering Trump has attacked veterans, PoW's and gold star families.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
mikedebo
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada4341 Posts
March 29 2018 22:41 GMT
#1150
On March 30 2018 06:49 zlefin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2018 06:34 mierin wrote:
On March 30 2018 06:00 Plansix wrote:
https://twitter.com/froomkin/status/979423953058922496

The ousted VA secretary has an opinion peice in the times worth reading. I believe this link let’s you past the pay wall. As a lot of people feared, there is a push to privatize the VA. But more troubling is there is VA secretary welcomed the public debate, but the administration didn’t want it. They just want to privatize and pick some company to make money off of veterans health care.


Welcome to America, home of the rich getting richer at the expense of the unfortunate poor. The statue of liberty has become a poor representation of this country.

has become would imply it was ever truly different; are you claiming it was once truly different?


I mean, the country was founded on slavery. This is pretty much the human story in general.
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Wulfey_LA
Profile Joined April 2017
932 Posts
March 29 2018 22:50 GMT
#1151
On March 30 2018 07:38 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2018 06:00 Plansix wrote:
https://twitter.com/froomkin/status/979423953058922496

The ousted VA secretary has an opinion peice in the times worth reading. I believe this link let’s you past the pay wall. As a lot of people feared, there is a push to privatize the VA. But more troubling is there is VA secretary welcomed the public debate, but the administration didn’t want it. They just want to privatize and pick some company to make money off of veterans health care.

I don't understand...the military men and veterans are the main group this adminstration keeps praising.. Do they really need to fuck over even them for profit


The praise is a mix of virtue signaling and a passive aggressive attack against those who question authority figures (liberals). Only delusional centrists still think the praise is real. Liberals know to look at the dollars and cents spent on veterans. Conservatives know the praise is about signaling and cheer for it as is.
mierin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4943 Posts
March 29 2018 23:19 GMT
#1152
On March 30 2018 06:49 zlefin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2018 06:34 mierin wrote:
On March 30 2018 06:00 Plansix wrote:
https://twitter.com/froomkin/status/979423953058922496

The ousted VA secretary has an opinion peice in the times worth reading. I believe this link let’s you past the pay wall. As a lot of people feared, there is a push to privatize the VA. But more troubling is there is VA secretary welcomed the public debate, but the administration didn’t want it. They just want to privatize and pick some company to make money off of veterans health care.


Welcome to America, home of the rich getting richer at the expense of the unfortunate poor. The statue of liberty has become a poor representation of this country.

has become would imply it was ever truly different; are you claiming it was once truly different?



That's a great question. I wasn't around back then so I wouldn't know. Cynically I'd assume it was never truly different, but it sucks that I can't afford a passport / lessons in another language to get out of this black hole of corrupt capitalism.
JD, Stork, Calm, Hyuk Fighting!
zlefin
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States7689 Posts
March 29 2018 23:23 GMT
#1153
On March 30 2018 08:19 mierin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2018 06:49 zlefin wrote:
On March 30 2018 06:34 mierin wrote:
On March 30 2018 06:00 Plansix wrote:
https://twitter.com/froomkin/status/979423953058922496

The ousted VA secretary has an opinion peice in the times worth reading. I believe this link let’s you past the pay wall. As a lot of people feared, there is a push to privatize the VA. But more troubling is there is VA secretary welcomed the public debate, but the administration didn’t want it. They just want to privatize and pick some company to make money off of veterans health care.


Welcome to America, home of the rich getting richer at the expense of the unfortunate poor. The statue of liberty has become a poor representation of this country.

has become would imply it was ever truly different; are you claiming it was once truly different?



That's a great question. I wasn't around back then so I wouldn't know. Cynically I'd assume it was never truly different, but it sucks that I can't afford a passport / lessons in another language to get out of this black hole of corrupt capitalism.

you needn't have been around back then to know; there's plenty of historical sources from which to glean some passably accurate results.
and if you think this is a black hole of corrupt capitalism you'd be shocked at what it's like if you go to the places that are far worse, of which there are quite a lot.
Great read: http://shorensteincenter.org/news-coverage-2016-general-election/ great book on democracy: http://press.princeton.edu/titles/10671.html zlefin is grumpier due to long term illness. Ignoring some users.
mierin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4943 Posts
March 30 2018 00:11 GMT
#1154
On March 30 2018 08:23 zlefin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2018 08:19 mierin wrote:
On March 30 2018 06:49 zlefin wrote:
On March 30 2018 06:34 mierin wrote:
On March 30 2018 06:00 Plansix wrote:
https://twitter.com/froomkin/status/979423953058922496

The ousted VA secretary has an opinion peice in the times worth reading. I believe this link let’s you past the pay wall. As a lot of people feared, there is a push to privatize the VA. But more troubling is there is VA secretary welcomed the public debate, but the administration didn’t want it. They just want to privatize and pick some company to make money off of veterans health care.


Welcome to America, home of the rich getting richer at the expense of the unfortunate poor. The statue of liberty has become a poor representation of this country.

has become would imply it was ever truly different; are you claiming it was once truly different?



That's a great question. I wasn't around back then so I wouldn't know. Cynically I'd assume it was never truly different, but it sucks that I can't afford a passport / lessons in another language to get out of this black hole of corrupt capitalism.

you needn't have been around back then to know; there's plenty of historical sources from which to glean some passably accurate results.
and if you think this is a black hole of corrupt capitalism you'd be shocked at what it's like if you go to the places that are far worse, of which there are quite a lot.


Is not ending sentences with prepositions an indicator of intelligence nowadays?


User was warned for this post.
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
March 30 2018 00:16 GMT
#1155


In the immortal Hilary Clinton investigation, Sessions has appointed a US attorney John W. Huber to look into the GOP's claims about the FBI. There is a healthy dose of cynicism out there because Huber is an Obama appointee and that will be blamed when Huber finds nothing.

To be honest, I am not entirely sure what they are looking for at this point.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Wulfey_LA
Profile Joined April 2017
932 Posts
March 30 2018 00:20 GMT
#1156
On March 30 2018 09:16 Plansix wrote:
https://twitter.com/relucasz/status/979465658235805696

In the immortal Hilary Clinton investigation, Sessions has appointed a US attorney John W. Huber to look into the GOP's claims about the FBI. There is a healthy dose of cynicism out there because Huber is an Obama appointee and that will be blamed when Huber finds nothing.

To be honest, I am not entirely sure what they are looking for at this point.


(1) Hillary's secret deal with Manafort to collude with the Russians and the Deep State to bring down Trump
(2) Hillary's contract on Seth Rich's life to protect her GRU/FSB allies
(3) Hillary using soviet-era nerve agents to cause mass amnesia in the white house every time the word 'Russia' is said
Tachion
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada8573 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-30 01:28:38
March 30 2018 00:41 GMT
#1157
On March 30 2018 09:16 Plansix wrote:
https://twitter.com/relucasz/status/979465658235805696

In the immortal Hilary Clinton investigation, Sessions has appointed a US attorney John W. Huber to look into the GOP's claims about the FBI. There is a healthy dose of cynicism out there because Huber is an Obama appointee and that will be blamed when Huber finds nothing.

To be honest, I am not entirely sure what they are looking for at this point.

From what I can find, Huber will look into the Nunes claim of FBI fisa abuse over obtaining a warrant on Carter Page. He will also be looking into Hillary and the Uranium One "scandal".
i was driving down the road this november eve and spotted a hitchhiker walking down the street. i pulled over and saw that it was only a tree. i uprooted it and put it in my trunk. do trees like marshmallow peeps? cause that's all i have and will have.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
March 30 2018 01:33 GMT
#1158
On March 30 2018 06:49 zlefin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2018 06:34 mierin wrote:
On March 30 2018 06:00 Plansix wrote:
https://twitter.com/froomkin/status/979423953058922496

The ousted VA secretary has an opinion peice in the times worth reading. I believe this link let’s you past the pay wall. As a lot of people feared, there is a push to privatize the VA. But more troubling is there is VA secretary welcomed the public debate, but the administration didn’t want it. They just want to privatize and pick some company to make money off of veterans health care.


Welcome to America, home of the rich getting richer at the expense of the unfortunate poor. The statue of liberty has become a poor representation of this country.

has become would imply it was ever truly different; are you claiming it was once truly different?


During FDR. One can only imagine had he not died in 45 but lived for several more years.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
March 30 2018 02:43 GMT
#1159
On March 30 2018 09:16 Plansix wrote:
https://twitter.com/relucasz/status/979465658235805696

In the immortal Hilary Clinton investigation, Sessions has appointed a US attorney John W. Huber to look into the GOP's claims about the FBI. There is a healthy dose of cynicism out there because Huber is an Obama appointee and that will be blamed when Huber finds nothing.

To be honest, I am not entirely sure what they are looking for at this point.


I mean, it's just a fishing expedition until they turn something up.
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Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States7542 Posts
March 30 2018 03:13 GMT
#1160
On March 30 2018 10:33 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2018 06:49 zlefin wrote:
On March 30 2018 06:34 mierin wrote:
On March 30 2018 06:00 Plansix wrote:
https://twitter.com/froomkin/status/979423953058922496

The ousted VA secretary has an opinion peice in the times worth reading. I believe this link let’s you past the pay wall. As a lot of people feared, there is a push to privatize the VA. But more troubling is there is VA secretary welcomed the public debate, but the administration didn’t want it. They just want to privatize and pick some company to make money off of veterans health care.


Welcome to America, home of the rich getting richer at the expense of the unfortunate poor. The statue of liberty has become a poor representation of this country.

has become would imply it was ever truly different; are you claiming it was once truly different?


During FDR. One can only imagine had he not died in 45 but lived for several more years.


That or backed Henry Wallace as his VP for his last election.
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